SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: V12 Engine Out (feast your eyes)
03-23-2010, 10:56 AM
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The second set of "turbos" you are seeing are external wastegates. Or maybe you are seeing the hot and cold side and thinking they are 2 different turbos. There is only a pair of turbos on the car from what I can see
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03-23-2010, 12:27 PM
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With the huge HE, we changed our minds.
[quote=blackbenzz;3997643]Looks like a blowoff or recirc valve
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03-23-2010, 12:38 PM
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03-23-2010, 01:33 PM
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Mother of GOD!!!! I am not worthy!!!!
What a monster! It will spin the planet the other direction!!!
What a monster! It will spin the planet the other direction!!!
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03-23-2010, 04:39 PM
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alright alright...so many praises and accolades! 
I'll say it...lets see some numbers and performance data, both during tesitng and actual field data...ala Texas Mile results...
Soulsearcher has a great project and everyone is wowed by the engine and "earth spinning" ...and "I'm not worthy"...and "OMG" ...lol ...but I'm sure he too also wants to see the real performance, durability, and overall result of this build... proof in in the results not the "wow" factor of the engine...just sayin'
Best of luck to Soulsearcher
he's a true enthusiast and has pushed the envelope for sure! Well done
I'll say it...lets see some numbers and performance data, both during tesitng and actual field data...ala Texas Mile results...Soulsearcher has a great project and everyone is wowed by the engine and "earth spinning" ...and "I'm not worthy"...and "OMG" ...lol
...but I'm sure he too also wants to see the real performance, durability, and overall result of this build... proof in in the results not the "wow" factor of the engine...just sayin' Best of luck to Soulsearcher
he's a true enthusiast and has pushed the envelope for sure! Well done
Marcin
03-23-2010, 09:26 PM
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In two words..."Hell Yes".
stock set up is a true diverter (VS. BOV). I think (I think) no oem design may use a BOV that vents into the atmosphere due to noise regulation but mostly because the ecu will not be aware of the venting (and thus not subtract that air volume) and allow a momentary rich condition when plates are closed.
Friday...
Best of luck to Soulsearcher he's a true enthusiast and has pushed the envelope for sure! Well done [/quote]
Thx, lets hope its a "good" Friday.
You let the cat out Marko. Looking forward to meeting you in Goliad. Looks like its going to be about 8 or 9 of us (Wives/GFs included)
I was just about to pull the trigger on another tuner....and then this.......[/quote]
Give it a year or two and someone will quad turbo these things(Successfully). It never ends...
He is going to be a rich man. I sold my first born in preparation.
stock set up is a true diverter (VS. BOV). I think (I think) no oem design may use a BOV that vents into the atmosphere due to noise regulation but mostly because the ecu will not be aware of the venting (and thus not subtract that air volume) and allow a momentary rich condition when plates are closed.
Friday...
Best of luck to Soulsearcher he's a true enthusiast and has pushed the envelope for sure! Well done [/quote]
Thx, lets hope its a "good" Friday.
You let the cat out Marko. Looking forward to meeting you in Goliad. Looks like its going to be about 8 or 9 of us (Wives/GFs included)
I was just about to pull the trigger on another tuner....and then this.......[/quote]
Give it a year or two and someone will quad turbo these things(Successfully). It never ends...
He is going to be a rich man. I sold my first born in preparation.
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03-23-2010, 09:30 PM
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alright alright...so many praises and accolades! I'll say it...lets see some numbers and performance data, both during tesitng and actual field data...ala Texas Mile results...
Soulsearcher has a great project and everyone is wowed by the engine and "earth spinning" ...and "I'm not worthy"...and "OMG" ...lol ...but I'm sure he too also wants to see the real performance, durability, and overall result of this build... proof in in the results not the "wow" factor of the engine...just sayin'
Best of luck to Soulsearcher he's a true enthusiast and has pushed the envelope for sure! Well done
I'll say it...lets see some numbers and performance data, both during tesitng and actual field data...ala Texas Mile results...Soulsearcher has a great project and everyone is wowed by the engine and "earth spinning" ...and "I'm not worthy"...and "OMG" ...lol
...but I'm sure he too also wants to see the real performance, durability, and overall result of this build... proof in in the results not the "wow" factor of the engine...just sayin' Best of luck to Soulsearcher
he's a true enthusiast and has pushed the envelope for sure! Well doneTom
03-23-2010, 11:53 PM
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]stock set up is a true diverter (VS. BOV). I think (I think) no oem design may use a BOV that vents into the atmosphere due to noise regulation but mostly because the ecu will not be aware of the venting (and thus not subtract that air volume) and allow a momentary rich condition when plates are closed
The lean condition you speak of is only possible on MAF based cars, not MAP based ones. When pressure is ventilated after the MAF, it is correct that the ECU cannot see that loss of airflow. A MAP can, however.
Diverter valves are used in modern day MAP cars (such as the SL) for any number of reasons, noise being one.
Just a clarification
Best of luck to you on your project. You've got a good guy working on it, I've known Marcin for quite a few years.
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03-24-2010, 12:39 AM
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In two words..."Hell Yes".
stock set up is a true diverter (VS. BOV). I think (I think) no oem design may use a BOV that vents into the atmosphere due to noise regulation but mostly because the ecu will not be aware of the venting (and thus not subtract that air volume) and allow a momentary rich condition when plates are closed.
Friday...
Best of luck to Soulsearcher he's a true enthusiast and has pushed the envelope for sure! Well done
Thx, lets hope its a "good" Friday.
You let the cat out Marko. Looking forward to meeting you in Goliad. Looks like its going to be about 8 or 9 of us (Wives/GFs included)
I was just about to pull the trigger on another tuner....and then this.......
He is going to be a rich man. I sold my first born in preparation.
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03-24-2010, 12:55 AM
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soulsearcher,
The lean condition you speak of is only possible on MAF based cars, not MAP based ones. When pressure is ventilated after the MAF, it is correct that the ECU cannot see that loss of airflow. A MAP can, however.
Diverter valves are used in modern day MAP cars (such as the SL) for any number of reasons, noise being one.
Just a clarification
Best of luck to you on your project. You've got a good guy working on it, I've known Marcin for quite a few years.
-m
The lean condition you speak of is only possible on MAF based cars, not MAP based ones. When pressure is ventilated after the MAF, it is correct that the ECU cannot see that loss of airflow. A MAP can, however.
Diverter valves are used in modern day MAP cars (such as the SL) for any number of reasons, noise being one.
Just a clarification
Best of luck to you on your project. You've got a good guy working on it, I've known Marcin for quite a few years.
-m
Just got of the phone. At almost 14 PSI got 620 whp on a dynodynamics (Arguably the same conversions as Mustangs) so probably 670 whp on dynojet (I know the fur will fly on this conversion). keep in mind what a stock sl600 does @ 14 psi on a dynojet.
These turbos can handle 30 but we are not going there. Not sure how high we'll go but depending on octane (100 vs MS109), we may push 21-24.
My understanding is on a TT setup for 300CID+ motors, breathing right WITH efficient turbos (This is not in stone), each psi equates to 17-26 whp. So you do the math if you agree with these projections.
03-24-2010, 10:28 AM
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Thx Marcus. Learned something new.
Just got of the phone. At almost 14 PSI got 620 whp on a dynodynamics (Arguably the same conversions as Mustangs) so probably 670 whp on dynojet (I know the fur will fly on this conversion). keep in mind what a stock sl600 does @ 14 psi on a dynojet.
These turbos can handle 30 but we are not going there. Not sure how high we'll go but depending on octane (100 vs MS109), we may push 21-24.
My understanding is on a TT setup for 300CID+ motors, breathing right WITH efficient turbos (This is not in stone), each psi equates to 17-26 whp. So you do the math if you agree with these projections.
Just got of the phone. At almost 14 PSI got 620 whp on a dynodynamics (Arguably the same conversions as Mustangs) so probably 670 whp on dynojet (I know the fur will fly on this conversion). keep in mind what a stock sl600 does @ 14 psi on a dynojet.
These turbos can handle 30 but we are not going there. Not sure how high we'll go but depending on octane (100 vs MS109), we may push 21-24.
My understanding is on a TT setup for 300CID+ motors, breathing right WITH efficient turbos (This is not in stone), each psi equates to 17-26 whp. So you do the math if you agree with these projections.
03-25-2010, 10:45 AM
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1000 HP is here *******************************
SUPER CARS EXPOSED will be filming a special supercar shootout at the Texas Mile. Got called about including my car but I passed. Did not want my car put thru brutal testing by Tanner. (Tests would have included not just the mile but braking, autocross, 0-60, braking etc...). I like my car too much to hand it over to a stranger. Some of you may disagree but my car is an extension of my family
By the way.....we are only at 21psi.
03-25-2010, 10:59 AM
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03-25-2010, 11:22 AM
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Running Friday. Its the slowest. Sat n Sun will have 200 cars lined up on one runway. I may run Sat if I can handle 1.5 hour waits per run.
SUPER CARS EXPOSED will be filming a special supercar shootout at the Texas Mile. Got called about including my car but I passed. Did not want my car put thru brutal testing by Tanner. (Tests would have included not just the mile but braking, autocross, 0-60, braking etc...). I like my car too much to hand it over to a stranger. Some of you may disagree but my car is an extension of my family
You want numbers...As of last night (Late), we hit 735 rwhp on dynodynamics so 920 X (whatever you think dynodynamics/mustangs to dynojet conversion is). I say at least 7% (or more) above that on a dynojet so we are at 1000 HP
By the way.....we are only at 21psi.
Running Friday. Its the slowest. Sat n Sun will have 200 cars lined up on one runway. I may run Sat if I can handle 1.5 hour waits per run.
SUPER CARS EXPOSED will be filming a special supercar shootout at the Texas Mile. Got called about including my car but I passed. Did not want my car put thru brutal testing by Tanner. (Tests would have included not just the mile but braking, autocross, 0-60, braking etc...). I like my car too much to hand it over to a stranger. Some of you may disagree but my car is an extension of my family
You want numbers...As of last night (Late), we hit 735 rwhp on dynodynamics so 920 X (whatever you think dynodynamics/mustangs to dynojet conversion is). I say at least 7% (or more) above that on a dynojet so we are at 1000 HP
By the way.....we are only at 21psi.
