SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: 55k vs. 600 vs. 65
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dang Ricker you know the SL600 too well haha 
I'm by no means putting the SL600 down...it's a very fast car, and it's really great I agree...but to me most of them (and most of them don't have the AMG package) look like and feel like (when sitting in them NOT while driving them) like an SL500...same speedo shocked me like I said almost stunned with that
...plus the same exhaust as the 500 double ..and the wood sterring wheel which almost every SL55 I've seen has...I don't remmeber any nappa leather or alcantera on the ones I saw before...then again these all could be options maybe witht he nappa leather package or something I dunno...
so the SL600 costs more that's cool but to me doesn't really matter, yes it's got the big brakes but it still has several details and ques common to the SL500...not that there is anything wrong with that it's simply an observation.
I'm by no means putting the SL600 down...it's a very fast car, and it's really great I agree...but to me most of them (and most of them don't have the AMG package) look like and feel like (when sitting in them NOT while driving them) like an SL500...same speedo shocked me like I said almost stunned with that...plus the same exhaust as the 500 double ..and the wood sterring wheel which almost every SL55 I've seen has...I don't remmeber any nappa leather or alcantera on the ones I saw before...then again these all could be options maybe witht he nappa leather package or something I dunno... so the SL600 costs more that's cool but to me doesn't really matter, yes it's got the big brakes but it still has several details and ques common to the SL500...not that there is anything wrong with that it's simply an observation.This was one of the main reasons I was leaning towards an SL55 when I was searching. Once I found an SL600 with the AMG package, I pulled the trigger without hesitation. I've driven 6 SL55s in total, including yours, and the driving experience is completely different. The SL55 is more of hot, exotic stripper. She makes no excuses for her appearance and throaty cry that emits from her quad exhaust, whereas the SL600 is more like a woman scorned. She'll coddle you, carress you, take you to the opera, then BOOM! One flex of her right calf, and you're getting kicked in the nuts.
These cars are so similar and so different at the same time, but I'll stick to my original statement that a tuned SL600, with exhaust mods, is the ultimate weapon.
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I'd love to finally hear her!
I'm also interested in the Cold Air Intake you're mensioning...
Got any pics of that..?
Or is it perhaps "explainable" to me (try and explain it like to an 8-year old)..?
And can the same procedure be used on my car also..?
PS. Forget about speedriven now, as long as I'm concerned. I've "moved on"!
They have shown NO interest what so ever, and don't even answer phone or mail...
Some companys/people I just can't understand!
"Busy" and "a lot to do" or a looong vacation even, don't excuse that sort of behavior...
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Fawk it go with a Miata and call it a day... 
J/k...
I would go with the V12TT, either 65 or 600 if you could pony up the extra $$ than go for it.
Easiest power you will ever get with an ECU/TCU tune from Speedriven. It's given to run low 11's...hell with drag radials and Ice reservoir in cold weather see you in 10's.
J/k...I would go with the V12TT, either 65 or 600 if you could pony up the extra $$ than go for it.
Easiest power you will ever get with an ECU/TCU tune from Speedriven. It's given to run low 11's...hell with drag radials and Ice reservoir in cold weather see you in 10's.
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You do that! Pronto!
I'd love to finally hear her!
I'm also interested in the Cold Air Intake you're mensioning...
Got any pics of that..?
Or is it perhaps "explainable" to me (try and explain it like to an 8-year old)..?
And can the same procedure be used on my car also..?
PS. Forget about speedriven now, as long as I'm concerned. I've "moved on"!
They have shown NO interest what so ever, and don't even answer phone or mail...
Some companys/people I just can't understand!
"Busy" and "a lot to do" or a looong vacation even, don't excuse that sort of behavior...
I'd love to finally hear her!
I'm also interested in the Cold Air Intake you're mensioning...
Got any pics of that..?
Or is it perhaps "explainable" to me (try and explain it like to an 8-year old)..?
And can the same procedure be used on my car also..?
PS. Forget about speedriven now, as long as I'm concerned. I've "moved on"!
They have shown NO interest what so ever, and don't even answer phone or mail...
Some companys/people I just can't understand!
"Busy" and "a lot to do" or a looong vacation even, don't excuse that sort of behavior...
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Thank you all very much for your expertise and knowledge...but it seems it all comes down to personal preference.
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Your worst nightmare...
I understand your Frustration but he is only one guy. He may be away for personal reasons but his products are great quality. I don't know what your history with them is but I am sure they deserve benefit of the doubt. give them sometime to come around.
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From just a mechanical and warranty standpoint, I'd go V12TT...you can do a lot to the 55 to get it really fast but you would definitely void warranty and more probability for mechanical failure of one or more components...I have both and it's just a fact of modifying a car.
The V12TT is already fast and an additional ECU/TCU makes it even faster...it would be much easier to go back to stock (if needed) on one of these badboys than my 55. The one problem with the V12TT platform is the heatsoak is even worse than the 55.
Good luck with the search...
The V12TT is already fast and an additional ECU/TCU makes it even faster...it would be much easier to go back to stock (if needed) on one of these badboys than my 55. The one problem with the V12TT platform is the heatsoak is even worse than the 55.
Good luck with the search...
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Very nice of you! Thanks really.
Well, I WAS interested in their ECU/TCU combo for starters.
But I now went with Väth (Vaeth) in Germany instead!
The boxes were sent back from there yesterday, so I'm getting them tomorrow I hope..!
Do you know them/him (Marcin) in person or..?
Well, I WAS interested in their ECU/TCU combo for starters.
But I now went with Väth (Vaeth) in Germany instead!
The boxes were sent back from there yesterday, so I'm getting them tomorrow I hope..!
Do you know them/him (Marcin) in person or..?
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Very nice of you! Thanks really.
Well, I WAS interested in their ECU/TCU combo for starters.
But I now went with Väth (Vaeth) in Germany instead!
The boxes were sent back from there yesterday, so I'm getting them tomorrow I hope..!
Do you know them/him (Marcin) in person or..?
Well, I WAS interested in their ECU/TCU combo for starters.
But I now went with Väth (Vaeth) in Germany instead!
The boxes were sent back from there yesterday, so I'm getting them tomorrow I hope..!
Do you know them/him (Marcin) in person or..?
In terms of Marcin, I know the guy, have spoken to him various times and have been at his shop many times as well. They just started and he has a lot of work. He is building my EV12...which will be a monster I hope. He also built the fastest Benz in the Mile (soulsearchers SL600) Here is the thread in case you missed it.
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...your-eyes.html
His car is putting out nearly 1100 HP at crank. They are going to the Texas mile and hope to break 200 this time around. As you can see they have many projects going on. He will be staffed pretty soon and will be able to handle all the requests of everyone.
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Nice! Man it seems Vaeth IC's are pretty cool. I was talking to Andrea from Vaeth about a turbo upgrade last year but they wanted almost nearly Brabus prices. Thats when I turned to VRP. It seems their products are very good and clean. Please let me know your impressions. Are you getting Intercoolers as well?
In terms of Marcin, I know the guy, have spoken to him various times and have been at his shop many times as well. They just started and he has a lot of work. He is building my EV12...which will be a monster I hope. He also built the fastest Benz in the Mile (soulsearchers SL600) Here is the thread in case you missed it.
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...your-eyes.html
His car is putting out nearly 1100 HP at crank. They are going to the Texas mile and hope to break 200 this time around. As you can see they have many projects going on. He will be staffed pretty soon and will be able to handle all the requests of everyone.
In terms of Marcin, I know the guy, have spoken to him various times and have been at his shop many times as well. They just started and he has a lot of work. He is building my EV12...which will be a monster I hope. He also built the fastest Benz in the Mile (soulsearchers SL600) Here is the thread in case you missed it.
https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...your-eyes.html
His car is putting out nearly 1100 HP at crank. They are going to the Texas mile and hope to break 200 this time around. As you can see they have many projects going on. He will be staffed pretty soon and will be able to handle all the requests of everyone.
I've sent soulsearcher a couple of questions, both specific to his project and also some overall questions, but not alot of answers from him either...
Of course I'll keep you posted if you want!
My plan is as follows;
As soon as I get my boxes, I'll drive to Tumba Turbo in Sthlm for a dyno again, just with the ECU/TCU. (last time bone stock 507,2 RWHP)
Then, they exchange the kats with straight pipes.
Then dyno again.
After that, they are gonna messure some different temps & flows, and see if they can do anything better without too much of an effort.
If they've done anything at all, dyno it again.
At last have them to tell me where the next bottleneck is located...
But hey, I saw your strip run there!
Sweet mother of gaawd!! Simply AWESOME!
Perhaps you can give me a tip or two..?
Especially in terms of cooling & intake, I guess. Or..?
And "your EV12" you're mensioning, what is that..?
BTW, which is more important, bigger IC's (like Väth or simular), or
reservoir tank in the boot..?
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HAHAHA LMFAO! Max that was funny as hell. I just thought of a Yeti jumping around Marcin's shop ripping phone wires out haha! Thanks for the laughs
Truthfulkly Jodi is right, I've talked to Marcin, not only is he Yoda (not the all ellusive Yeti hahaha) when it comes to V12TT, but also he will tell you unbiased advice and thoughts and is very real to the science behind the mechanical truths to these cars. He's super busy with projects right now...I've learned a lot just by talking to him - doesn't matter if you have a 55K or V12TT, he likes and knows about them both and he will tell you what is more advantageous and where. He'll even tell you where not to spend your money and how certain mods effect the car over other mods.
Truthfulkly Jodi is right, I've talked to Marcin, not only is he Yoda (not the all ellusive Yeti hahaha) when it comes to V12TT, but also he will tell you unbiased advice and thoughts and is very real to the science behind the mechanical truths to these cars. He's super busy with projects right now...I've learned a lot just by talking to him - doesn't matter if you have a 55K or V12TT, he likes and knows about them both and he will tell you what is more advantageous and where. He'll even tell you where not to spend your money and how certain mods effect the car over other mods.
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Your worst nightmare...
But hey, I saw your strip run there!
Sweet mother of gaawd!! Simply AWESOME!
Perhaps you can give me a tip or two..?
Especially in terms of cooling & intake, I guess. Or..?
And "your EV12" you're mensioning, what is that..?
BTW, which is more important, bigger IC's (like Väth or simular), or
reservoir tank in the boot..?
In terms of my EV12 it should arrive next week or the following...here is the thread.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...peedriven.html
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I understand that he has alot to do.
But when he doesn't take the time (how much time would it take to write & tell me just that?), I'm automaticly filing him along with all the other "less reliable"...
To express myself modest.
But I'm pretty hopeful with Väth now.
I sure am checking my mailbox today, to see if the boxes have arrived..!
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Sure just shoot me a PM with your questions I will do my best to answer them correctly.
In terms of my EV12 it should arrive next week or the following...here is the thread.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...peedriven.html
In terms of my EV12 it should arrive next week or the following...here is the thread.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...peedriven.html
You can then depend on some questions in the near future...
Just gonna take it to the dyno again, and see how things develope!
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Y-pipe with a valve. One valve setting vents the exhaust through the exhaust system. The other valve setting vents the exhaust directly to air and reduces back pressure.
Well, an SL65 set up with similar mods and more turbo boost would be quicker.
Well, an SL65 set up with similar mods and more turbo boost would be quicker.
