SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Anyone ever get the 800HP package from Speedriven?
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well, I would imagine there is an amount of boost that makes the turbos last for 200 000 km and there is an amount that will kill it after 20 000 km, or am I wrong? I would imagine speedriven have more than pushed these boundaries, as you said, there is no magic involved. There is a reason brabus changes the whole engine for the same amount of horsepower, and I mean the whole engine, including bore and so on. And Mercedes decides to completely update the turbo chargers just for gaining 40hp on the SL65 Black Series, besides a lot further hardware modifications. So how can 800hp possibly be good for the turbo chargers?
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Better flowing turbo manifolds with more efficient turbos will make more power at lower boost levels. One member went to a single turbo conversion but these cars need the low end boost to get out of their own way from a stop.
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Well I think it is safe to say that the 800 hp package from speedriven is far from the truth, without serious hardware modifications like manifolds and turbos these amounts of power are simply not possible, no matter how big the intercoolers are.
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But if I remember right our cars have a 17-18% drivetrain loss so at 800 crank thats like 656-664 rwhp. There was an S65 that got their kit from speedriven and he got 690 rwhp so 800 seems duoable if my converison number is right.
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Whats in the 800 package? I know from exhaust/intakes/tune you can get 630-640 rwhp. With billet turbos someone with there kit made 690 rwhp which is billet turbo/exhaust/intake/tune at that point you will be close to busting your trans. I did port and polish cylinder heads and billet turbos, the momment I did that the torque converter went bust. Decided to do a pro torque tq converter and a southern hot rod transmission.
But if I remember right our cars have a 17-18% drivetrain loss so at 800 crank thats like 656-664 rwhp. There was an S65 that got their kit from speedriven and he got 690 rwhp so 800 seems duoable if my converison number is right.
But if I remember right our cars have a 17-18% drivetrain loss so at 800 crank thats like 656-664 rwhp. There was an S65 that got their kit from speedriven and he got 690 rwhp so 800 seems duoable if my converison number is right.
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If its an M279 car I could see maybe 800 from tune/exhaust/intake but not an m275 car. Racehorse and I pretty much have the same mods in our sl65/cl65 and we got 630-640 rwhp with just tune/intake/exhaust. Its prob more like a 780 hp kit than 800 for an m275 when factoring 17-18% drive train loss
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Well, that is still impressive, I would not have thought. No reason to argue about 20hp, if it really were around 780 hp this would be pretty impressive still. I just could not imagine how adding exhaust, intake and intercoolers were able to add 100 hp on top of a tune only which is usually around 670/680 hp. I just don't understand how this works. Could somebody maybe explain? Lets say the engine can breath a little more freely and stay cooler, that is all well and good, but how does this add up to 100hp? Does this allow you to run a much of a sharper map? What exactly is producing that amount of extra power?
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Well, that is still impressive, I would not have thought. No reason to argue about 20hp, if it really were around 780 hp this would be pretty impressive still. I just could not imagine how adding exhaust, intake and intercoolers were able to add 100 hp on top of a tune only which is usually around 670/680 hp. I just don't understand how this works. Could somebody maybe explain? Lets say the engine can breath a little more freely and stay cooler, that is all well and good, but how does this add up to 100hp? Does this allow you to run a much of a sharper map? What exactly is producing that amount of extra power?
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Take a look at our down pipes and our airboxes. They are very restrictive. You can do Intakes without downpipes but not the other way around. I did exhaust before intake an I actually lost Hp. Turns out intake side was choking up so bad and exhaust end was so free. If you look at the airbox its a very narrow going from the filter to the Turbo. 3 in CAI and Downpipes really helps the car breathe. If you do the mod I highly suggest upgrading the LSD because with those mods the AMG LSD wont do the job.
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When I did the heads and billet turbos my tq converter dediced to go out. Since Trans had to come out anyways I did a SHR trans and Pro Torque Tq Converter and converted my car with 33 way adjustable coilovers with no ABC light at all. I just need to finish up tuning but Ive been soo busy and Paul seems to b3 swamped with those TT lambo builds. Im trying to finish it up this summer so I can move on another car as a project but I'll keep the SL still.
When I did the heads and billet turbos my tq converter dediced to go out. Since Trans had to come out anyways I did a SHR trans and Pro Torque Tq Converter and converted my car with 33 way adjustable coilovers with no ABC light at all. I just need to finish up tuning but Ive been soo busy and Paul seems to b3 swamped with those TT lambo builds. Im trying to finish it up this summer so I can move on another car as a project but I'll keep the SL still.
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If its an M279 car I could see maybe 800 from tune/exhaust/intake but not an m275 car. Racehorse and I pretty much have the same mods in our sl65/cl65 and we got 630-640 rwhp with just tune/intake/exhaust. Its prob more like a 780 hp kit than 800 for an m275 when factoring 17-18% drive train loss
So no chance to reach 800 Crank HP with the stock turbos. No way.
