SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: ABC pump failure. Experince.
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ABC pump failure. Experince.
Hello.
For approx 2 monhs ago I got ABC pump failure. It's start to leak little of oil.
Here is few picture what it's look inside the pump. This pump pictures is from a intact pump... My new pump.
I had lot of problems with Mercedes and the seller where I bought it from.
First I bought this pump from Germany because it cost arround 900 Eur there.... Mercedes want 1900 Eur from the same pump.
When I got the pump I bring it to the Mercedes service and ask them to change the pump. They do it and when they start the engine my steering oil reservoir exploded.... Mercedes service told me that something was wrong with the pump and it was not in working condition even if it was brand new.
I ordered a new ABC pump from Mercedes and they install it and everything working fine.
Now when I refund the first ABC pump back to Germany.I ask them to refund my money because the new pump was broken from the beginning ....
It has taken 4-5 weeks to find out was the ABC pump broken or not....
Now I now it was healthy.... as you can see at following pictures Mercedes service forgot or did not now that they must take of the plug before they install it. You can see the plug at few pictures at the pipe hole. You can even see the preservation grease is still there.
Now I now also my ABC pump failure. My ABC pump start to leak because the sealing start to leak.... You can see at the picture number 5. the outer sealing ring... so if you want save money buy the sealing kit for approx 50-80 USD and change them itself.
Next time I'm gone do it my self.
Juha
For approx 2 monhs ago I got ABC pump failure. It's start to leak little of oil.
Here is few picture what it's look inside the pump. This pump pictures is from a intact pump... My new pump.
I had lot of problems with Mercedes and the seller where I bought it from.
First I bought this pump from Germany because it cost arround 900 Eur there.... Mercedes want 1900 Eur from the same pump.
When I got the pump I bring it to the Mercedes service and ask them to change the pump. They do it and when they start the engine my steering oil reservoir exploded.... Mercedes service told me that something was wrong with the pump and it was not in working condition even if it was brand new.
I ordered a new ABC pump from Mercedes and they install it and everything working fine.
Now when I refund the first ABC pump back to Germany.I ask them to refund my money because the new pump was broken from the beginning ....
It has taken 4-5 weeks to find out was the ABC pump broken or not....
Now I now it was healthy.... as you can see at following pictures Mercedes service forgot or did not now that they must take of the plug before they install it. You can see the plug at few pictures at the pipe hole. You can even see the preservation grease is still there.
Now I now also my ABC pump failure. My ABC pump start to leak because the sealing start to leak.... You can see at the picture number 5. the outer sealing ring... so if you want save money buy the sealing kit for approx 50-80 USD and change them itself.
Next time I'm gone do it my self.
Juha
Last edited by Ekselent; Sep 27, 2013 at 06:21 PM.
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People makes mistakes
This is terrible ……. but unfortunately, quit commonly …… these authorized MB companies are mostly just simple engine/car seller/ workshops with an agreements with MB. Think mostly they put more energy into the looks of theirs places so people shall get a good feeling of coming to a Mercedes Benz dealer that knows what they are doing. In a land as Finland I guess MB Germany didn’t have so many choices when deciding a dealer/workshop ….. just like here in Sweden …. and the people working there are just like you and me … people ……. and people makes mistakes …… some more than others.
I also learned this the hard way and do almost everything myself since I know more about this car then the local MB dealership. Guess they have a hard time following suit with all new models coming …. do you think a new mechanic comes on courses to repair an old car like the SL55AMG? (I do my shopping for original MB parts in Germany which is generally cheaper and I have an additional 10% discount on all parts
)
Fortunately my car is covered by this repair DVD: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...stedDocId=9124
Also for ABC issues: https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...ml#post5567814
I also learned this the hard way and do almost everything myself since I know more about this car then the local MB dealership. Guess they have a hard time following suit with all new models coming …. do you think a new mechanic comes on courses to repair an old car like the SL55AMG? (I do my shopping for original MB parts in Germany which is generally cheaper and I have an additional 10% discount on all parts
)Fortunately my car is covered by this repair DVD: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...stedDocId=9124
Also for ABC issues: https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...ml#post5567814
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This is terrible ……. but unfortunately, quit commonly …… these authorized MB companies are mostly just simple engine/car seller/ workshops with an agreements with MB. Think mostly they put more energy into the looks of theirs places so people shall get a good feeling of coming to a Mercedes Benz dealer that knows what they are doing. In a land as Finland I guess MB Germany didn’t have so many choices when deciding a dealer/workshop ….. just like here in Sweden …. and the people working there are just like you and me … people ……. and people makes mistakes …… some more than others.
I also learned this the hard way and do almost everything myself since I know more about this car then the local MB dealership. Guess they have a hard time following suit with all new models coming …. do you think a new mechanic comes on courses to repair an old car like the SL55AMG? (I do my shopping for original MB parts in Germany which is generally cheaper and I have an additional 10% discount on all parts)
Fortunately my car is covered by this repair DVD: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...stedDocId=9124
Also for ABC issues: https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...ml#post5567814
I also learned this the hard way and do almost everything myself since I know more about this car then the local MB dealership. Guess they have a hard time following suit with all new models coming …. do you think a new mechanic comes on courses to repair an old car like the SL55AMG? (I do my shopping for original MB parts in Germany which is generally cheaper and I have an additional 10% discount on all parts
)Fortunately my car is covered by this repair DVD: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/o...stedDocId=9124
Also for ABC issues: https://mbworld.org/forums/sl55-amg-...ml#post5567814
At my case I must by a new pump from Mercedes because I had no time to wait a new one from Germany... I calculate that if everything would gone right from the beginning the repair would have cost about 1600 Eur.
Now
- Steering reservoir exploded, Buy a new one
- New pump from Mercedes
- Two installing cost
So it has cost me now all together over 3500 Eur.
Now I'm gone contact mercedes again and show them what was the problem and hope they refund some money.
I have owned a lot of cars in my life but this mercedes has had the most defects of all. Now I have coil packs failure.. I'm gone change them myself.
Then I have two PDC failures which I also must buy new ones and change them.
Yesterday my shifter locking system had problems.... lock it's not gone open.
So I must buy a new one... and so on. This car it's very expensive to use.
Juha
Last edited by Ekselent; Sep 28, 2013 at 06:05 PM.
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Mercedes SL63 AMG; Mercedes E63 AMG S 4matic; Mercedes C43 AMG; Mercedes S Class, Mercedes GLK
Hi Guys - you may want to check out this thread
I know this is an S600 versus SL but Howard has done a significant amount of diy work on both ABC (pretty much replaced all the lines and fixed up the components himself) as well as coil packs (he also not only did it himself but he actually repaired a coil pack versus buying a replacement). 
I've found what he has done very helpful, hopefully you'll find it helpful as well.
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...2003-s600.html
James
I've found what he has done very helpful, hopefully you'll find it helpful as well.
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...2003-s600.html
James
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I know this is an S600 versus SL but Howard has done a significant amount of diy work on both ABC (pretty much replaced all the lines and fixed up the components himself) as well as coil packs (he also not only did it himself but he actually repaired a coil pack versus buying a replacement).
I've found what he has done very helpful, hopefully you'll find it helpful as well.
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...2003-s600.html
James
I've found what he has done very helpful, hopefully you'll find it helpful as well.
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...2003-s600.html
James
Juha
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Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 883
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From: Finland
SL600 / SL450 (107) / E350 / BMW M5 E60 / BMW 745i (E23) / BMW X6M / Toyota Hilux 4 WD/ Honda CBX 10
Hello.
For approx 2 monhs ago I got ABC pump failure. It's start to leak little of oil.
Here is few picture what it's look inside the pump. This pump pictures is from a intact pump... My new pump.
I had lot of problems with Mercedes and the seller where I bought it from.
First I bought this pump from Germany because it cost arround 900 Eur there.... Mercedes want 1900 Eur from the same pump.
When I got the pump I bring it to the Mercedes service and ask them to change the pump. They do it and when they start the engine my steering oil reservoir exploded.... Mercedes service told me that something was wrong with the pump and it was not in working condition even if it was brand new.
I ordered a new ABC pump from Mercedes and they install it and everything working fine.
Now when I refund the first ABC pump back to Germany.I ask them to refund my money because the new pump was broken from the beginning ....
It has taken 4-5 weeks to find out was the ABC pump broken or not....
Now I now it was healthy.... as you can see at following pictures Mercedes service forgot or did not now that they must take of the plug before they install it. You can see the plug at few pictures at the pipe hole. You can even see the preservation grease is still there.
Now I now also my ABC pump failure. My ABC pump start to leak because the sealing start to leak.... You can see at the picture number 5. the outer sealing ring... so if you want save money buy the sealing kit for approx 50-80 USD and change them itself.
Next time I'm gone do it my self.
Juha
For approx 2 monhs ago I got ABC pump failure. It's start to leak little of oil.
Here is few picture what it's look inside the pump. This pump pictures is from a intact pump... My new pump.
I had lot of problems with Mercedes and the seller where I bought it from.
First I bought this pump from Germany because it cost arround 900 Eur there.... Mercedes want 1900 Eur from the same pump.
When I got the pump I bring it to the Mercedes service and ask them to change the pump. They do it and when they start the engine my steering oil reservoir exploded.... Mercedes service told me that something was wrong with the pump and it was not in working condition even if it was brand new.
I ordered a new ABC pump from Mercedes and they install it and everything working fine.
Now when I refund the first ABC pump back to Germany.I ask them to refund my money because the new pump was broken from the beginning ....
It has taken 4-5 weeks to find out was the ABC pump broken or not....
Now I now it was healthy.... as you can see at following pictures Mercedes service forgot or did not now that they must take of the plug before they install it. You can see the plug at few pictures at the pipe hole. You can even see the preservation grease is still there.
Now I now also my ABC pump failure. My ABC pump start to leak because the sealing start to leak.... You can see at the picture number 5. the outer sealing ring... so if you want save money buy the sealing kit for approx 50-80 USD and change them itself.
Next time I'm gone do it my self.
Juha
Juha
Last edited by Ekselent; Oct 1, 2013 at 04:32 AM.
