Yeah..no more hesitating...I'm going to finish my hatchet job. I should have known better, I've been turbocharging for 25 years now......in this case more is better...it's just that these air boxes don't grow on trees....about as common as my RS6 was...


as an aside, you guys that have just used a piece of pipe or silicone 90 in lieu of an airbox, did you just take the sensor out of the airbox and just plug it back into the harness and let it lay on the plenum? Or did you somehow mount it on the new intake "piping"?

 

You can do either, I have had them unplugged for couple yrs, just zip tie them neatly out of the way No error codes or chk eng lights..

 

Swat I figured...thanks Sean...

 

Okay, I LOL'd.

 

I'll be here all week.. tips accepted in virtual hat at HoboGotsJokes-PayPal..

Got latest Blk berry can't put it down..

 

To put some traffic in the discussion here is another thread about New Top Mount IC for the CL65...

https://mbworld.org/forums/cl55-amg-...2005-cl65.html

I wrote also my thoughts about this Setup in the thread...

Nice to see some new found interest in V12TT-Tuning, which was quite static over the last years.

 

Having the most unconventional setup yet, Brabus actually mounted the IC's in front of the engine by airboxes vs sitting ontop of broiling engine in the back by firewall, geez only custom hotrods & extreme high hp/tq 1/4 mi perpous built monsters do such crazy things, I wonder what will happen to cooling?

Imagine what all that fresh cool air at the front & not being mounted to the actual top of engine will do towards cooling (AMG feel free to take notes @ anytime)


I know Brabus didn't do it for this reason IE they were forced to relocate coolers due to space & SLS stock engine layout, but I'm certain the cooling efficiency and IAT's are better than ever! Just look how simple, even elegant the tiny stock IC's fit mounted face to face utilizing the micro realestate left up front..

More on IAT's... I know the advanced ram air intake system on the Pagani Huayra AMG v12 biturbo MUST play a big part in making 739 bhp.. From searching the web they don't use bigger turbs found on the Black Series, they actually use SMALLER turbos! Yet still make 739 bhp Note huge air scoops mounted over rear wheel arches dumping gobs of fresh air into rear mounted engines Carbon Fiber airboxes, AGAIN not mounted directly on broiling v12tt





I'm certain AMG's completely redesigned giant airboxes on SL65 Black Series add nicely to the 670 hp, mounted AGAIN way up front on the sides completey detached from broiling engine or under the heatsoaking engine covers..

vs airboxes sitting ontop mid engine like regular AMG's making 600 hp.. Point being, a lot of hp to be had redesigning the old m275 v12tt air intakes.. Perfect marriage of the latest 1-off outside engine bay intakes made by World Motorsports & Speedriven would be to make ALL the tubing out of either Silicone tubing or & Carbon Fiber on integral attachment points of intake piping where rigidity is needed, the metal tubing coupled to ANY v12tt will spell heatsoak eventually..

Edit: Interesting info on the turbo & air intake path modifications done to the Black Series, found this quote off Topspeed.com Sounds very similar to what EuroCharged is offering in their version of Billet Wheel upgrades...

 

Sean, looking at your car in your sig, I wonder if you have tried running piping to some cones where your fogs used to be? Away from engine heat, nice cool air.. I imagine the Misha kit even gives you more to play with vs oem R230 bumpers?

 

What happened to this thread did anybody come up with any solutions other than stock seems as good as any?

 

Thanks Thericker glad I could help, and don't forget the invaluable info
on extra horsepower from tail pipes....

 

I have a set of scorpion intakes for sale with filters, pm me your email if you would like pics. I might try to figure out something a bit different

 

Hello Members....

The winter is here....
I have thinking a lot about this intake case.( in two years time)
I have one pretty simple solution on this.
I'm gone buy new or used OEM radiator and made a new radiator.
I'm gone use the OEM radiators booth ends and narrow the radiator 2-3 inch so I have space enough with the 4" pipes at the front.
My friend own a radiator shop and he told me the idea is great and he want to help me.
So we will se if it gone work or not.... but I think it's gone work.
Maybe a new thread when I'm going to start the jobb

 

If you can get it done then go for it. From my understanding the pre 09 headlights don't allow enough room for intake pipes.

I know it can be done on the 09+ models and I wanted to do the black series set up after my port/polish heads, billet turbos, and top mount intercoolers come back, but it's been 10 weeks now. So far cylinder heads are back but still waiting turbos.

World Motorsports has been helpful into the construction on how they did there top mount intercoolers and they will gladly provide support for anyone that wants to construct there own set.

As for my take on those front mount intakes, it looks like it might have to wait to December now since I have an urge to drive my car again when it comes back. Hopefully 2 more weeks I can start driving my car for at least 4-6 weeks before it's winter and can do my kit and intake while its snowing and the roads filled with potholes.

 

Here's what speedriven did on the 09+ r230

 

Thank you...

Maybe they also have narrow the radiator?

 

Looks awesome v12!

 

To replicate the SPEEDRIVEN style cai you have to trim the headlight cups, hood latches, and radiator plastic. It's simple just tedious and if you aren't mechanically inclined it's nothing you should attempt. My recommendation if no one is interested in the cutting is just to do a short ram style intake with a filter right behind the factory ducting on the sides of the radiator, and ceramic coat your piping. Also those intakes will fit on pre-facelift.

 

Does anybody know if a vented hood will help the heat soak in the scorpion intakes when they are located in the normal position in the engine bay.

 

Vented hood should cool the engine bay Temps, I assume. We will see of other can shed more light?

My vented hood draws off so much heat, I afraid of discoloring the hood.

 

Rockford what vented hood do you have?

 

Sarona BS hood; functional vents. 3k just for hood, for goodness sake.

I needed it for scorpions, but based upon what I am hearing from thericker and others regarding heat soak....I am sure glad I went with ducted hood

 

With the intakes in the front does this mean only the two are needed or are the other two that would be on the scorpion set up still in the engine bay?

 

It seems as though the extra 2 are simply for show. I am trying to contact marcin but to no avial.

 

But it also seem scary to have to cut into the car to make it fit in front...looks awesome but scary.

I have a 2006 facelifted to 2009+.

V12 was saying that, that pic is for 2009+. So which category do I fit in?.

But speedriven is not answering phone...shoot

 

You have the 09+ headlights, you have more room up front to put a front mount CAI,

Even if you do a short ram CAI the air under the hood get's hot fast, but its better than nothing if your intake is choking up due to exhaust mods