SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: New Tesla AWD @691 hp / 687 lb. ft.
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New Tesla AWD @691 hp / 687 lb. ft.
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Read about it when I woke up. I've been wanting a Model S since they first came out, but put it on the backburner when I heard they may come out with AWD, and I wanted my next car to be AWD. So I've been waiting for this car for about a year and a half now. Just bought the SL65 though, so I can't afford it... 
I'm a little surprised at the power output. They reallllllly went for it. I was expecting 500+, not nearly 700. Astonishing. Great stuff.
I'm a little surprised at the power output. They reallllllly went for it. I was expecting 500+, not nearly 700. Astonishing. Great stuff.
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06 SL65AMG, 13 Tesla Model S 60kwh, 02 Jaguar S-Type 3.0, 12 S550 4 Matic, 07 E320 Bluetec, 06 LX470
I wouldn't feel too bad Viper, for the same price of what SL65 were going for all you could get price wise the 45 with options or a 60 bare bones, with full options that 69k goes up to 100k+
I drove the P85 when they gave me it as a loaner while my 60 was for maintenance for 2 days and I still prefer my SL65.
Its great if you want to pay only 5 bucks per charge at your house over 75-85 depending on where u live for the same range and you want to seat 5-7, and get an HOV pass sticker with no cost that you would find in a gas powered car.
But since you own a SL65 I bet if you switched now you want get that same smile on your face.
I hope that makes you feel better if you had any buyer's remorse
I drove the P85 when they gave me it as a loaner while my 60 was for maintenance for 2 days and I still prefer my SL65.
Its great if you want to pay only 5 bucks per charge at your house over 75-85 depending on where u live for the same range and you want to seat 5-7, and get an HOV pass sticker with no cost that you would find in a gas powered car.
But since you own a SL65 I bet if you switched now you want get that same smile on your face.
I hope that makes you feel better if you had any buyer's remorse
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This new AWD Tesla would be INSANE if it lost 1000 lbs, it weighs nearly 5k lbs & projected 1/4 mile is only 11.8x vs say new RWD Dodge Hellcat w/similar power but 800 odd less pounds hits 10.85 1/4
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06 SL65AMG, 13 Tesla Model S 60kwh, 02 Jaguar S-Type 3.0, 12 S550 4 Matic, 07 E320 Bluetec, 06 LX470
Isn't the 10.85 run with drag radicals though? Idk if Tesla is using drag radicals on that 11.8xx run but assuming its not compared to the 11.2 hellcat run on normal tires isn't bad
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Lighter wheels would help
I'm curious how much juice is used in one run to the 1/4 mile
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Yes.. Dodge on drag tires on stock dodge wheels in blistering summer heat in Texas, that 10.85 will certainly be bested in much cooler winter air etc to 10.6x-10.70... But comparing to an AWD Electric car (its electric motors wont improve a smidge in better air) & using reg tires means nada IE the AWD will gain ZIP using drag tires, its AWD system is already achieving max traction..
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If it's anything like the 1st P85, Then its prob those 21 inch alloy rims. Idk if it can go any lower then the 19 inch they have on the standard cars. But I've seen aftermarket rims that can be put on.
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You're kinda lost here... 690 pound feet of torque available from ZERO rpm's all the way thru redline will negate those 21" wheels period.. IE running 3.2 0-60 on reg asphalt is testament to that.. This new Tesla's perf is MOSTLY limited to massive curb weight.. Adding a smaller lighter wheel would only drop a tenth or so in overall 1/4 etc.. Vs adding smaller lighter wheels to 2 wheel drive HellCat (for this comparo) will MOSTLY improve the 60' due to bigger sidewall/aspect ratio on 17"-18" drag wheels w/taller drag tires etc.. (Also NOTE the Hellcat ran on stock 20" wheels using 20" drag radials, far different from TRUE drag tires w/50/55 sidewall on smaller 16"-18" aftermarket lighter wheels)
Again.. Yes lower wheel mass helps too but far less on a Tesla making 690 ft lbs from zero rpms thru redline.. That coupled to excellent traction equates to much less gains to be seen on lighter smaller wheels in Tesla comparo.
Again.. Yes lower wheel mass helps too but far less on a Tesla making 690 ft lbs from zero rpms thru redline.. That coupled to excellent traction equates to much less gains to be seen on lighter smaller wheels in Tesla comparo.
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Battery weight is the likely target for weight reduction. I believe total vehicle battery weight is somewhere around 1300 lbs. One strategy to reduce weight for drag racing would be to remove a portion of the batteries. The battery design is already modular. One could divide the batteries into segments allowing 75% to be dropped for drag and added back later for range.
This wouldn't be especially easy due to charging, cooling, fire risk, etc. And yes there goes your "infinite mile warranty". (8 years)
This wouldn't be especially easy due to charging, cooling, fire risk, etc. And yes there goes your "infinite mile warranty". (8 years)
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That may sound simple enough but from my experience, the car has a lot more software restrictions than hardware. When one of my 3 aux battery's wasn't working right it caused the car to stop charging when it was plugged.
When the tech came to my house and told me it was one of the 12 volts that manages the accessories in the car stopped working I asked him if I could have just swapped it out myself next time if it ever happened. He told me it's easy to swap out but there's codes need to be phased out that only Tesla can do.
Recently one of my coolant pumps stopped working, and a message showed up on my dash to contact Tesla, called them and they said it's nothing major but 1 of the pumps to cool the batteries is starting to go out, but the car has 3 pumps to cool the batteries so it will compensate.
When it's winter and the batteries are still cold, the software will adjust and tell you it's limiting some power until a few miles are on the car so the batteries warm up.
Any time something happens to the car Tesla get notified of the fault in their system and works with you to fix it.
But based off my experience it seems everything has some kind of software restriction.
However I'm sure there has to be someway around it. There's a Texas mile record placed by a Tesla Roadster that hit 204.3
https://www.texasmile.net/mileresult...nt=10&cni=2481
Either this was a mistake or someone managed to hack the system and made the batteries dump out 100% at the cost of reducing the range
When the tech came to my house and told me it was one of the 12 volts that manages the accessories in the car stopped working I asked him if I could have just swapped it out myself next time if it ever happened. He told me it's easy to swap out but there's codes need to be phased out that only Tesla can do.
Recently one of my coolant pumps stopped working, and a message showed up on my dash to contact Tesla, called them and they said it's nothing major but 1 of the pumps to cool the batteries is starting to go out, but the car has 3 pumps to cool the batteries so it will compensate.
When it's winter and the batteries are still cold, the software will adjust and tell you it's limiting some power until a few miles are on the car so the batteries warm up.
Any time something happens to the car Tesla get notified of the fault in their system and works with you to fix it.
But based off my experience it seems everything has some kind of software restriction.
However I'm sure there has to be someway around it. There's a Texas mile record placed by a Tesla Roadster that hit 204.3
https://www.texasmile.net/mileresult...nt=10&cni=2481
Either this was a mistake or someone managed to hack the system and made the batteries dump out 100% at the cost of reducing the range
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That record link you posted if legit? Would mean that heavyweight 2011 model would have to be putting out well North of 1000+ whp 204 mph in the mile is NO joke! Their 1/2 mi traps are on par too at 167+ mph damn how/who can we contact to verify these results?
There are few tricked out lightweight electric motor swapped Miata's out there & they run high 8 sec 1/4 miles (instant 1300+ ft lbs of torque) will make a new Bugatti Veyron at 1200 bhp look relatively slow, they run 1/4 in 10.00 flat!
There are few tricked out lightweight electric motor swapped Miata's out there & they run high 8 sec 1/4 miles (instant 1300+ ft lbs of torque) will make a new Bugatti Veyron at 1200 bhp look relatively slow, they run 1/4 in 10.00 flat!
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That's what I want to find out too. Anyone have a contact number for someone who organizes the Texas Mile?
Here's another link off the Texas Mile website;
http://www.texasmile.net/pdf/050511-...rsVehicles.pdf
If you go a quick find for "Tesla" on the pdf you'll see it again. Either this was a mistake made by someone at the event or someone managed to hack the car
Here's another link off the Texas Mile website;
http://www.texasmile.net/pdf/050511-...rsVehicles.pdf
If you go a quick find for "Tesla" on the pdf you'll see it again. Either this was a mistake made by someone at the event or someone managed to hack the car
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Sorry wrong PDF one above is for 2003 to 2010 this one is for 2010 and onwards
http://www.texasmile.net/pdf/200MPH%...ers-052413.pdf
http://www.texasmile.net/pdf/200MPH%...ers-052413.pdf
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Tesla Model S P100D
We just placed an order for a P85D but it is currently only available in a black interior with the improved seats they just came out with so we are waiting for the tan seats to come out before we finalize the order but other than that it is a done deal.
Mercedes lost a sale with our purchase because they have nothing comparable. The only thing that kept us from buying one last year was lack of AWD and now we have it along with almost 700hp.
I hope Mercedes stops dicking around with BS hybrids and design a long range high performance EV. We'll like never buy another gasoline powered car with a transmission ever again.
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That's why we are buying one!And I don't care much for the weight either as long as I can get to 60 in about 3 seconds. This will be a daily driver/family car for us and I don't know many that can offer the versatility of a Model S and leave a long line of performance cars in its wake.
The P85D we ordered came to about $126K and at that price it is an unbelievable value for the technology and performance. We look forward to an upcoming software update that will allow us to leave the car at our front door while the car drives itself to the garage, opens the garage door via HomeLink, and then park itself and close the garage door all unattended.
I'd like to see a Hellcat try and do that
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We actually plan to put 19" standard profile tires on our P85D. Low profile tires are a dumb choice for badly maintained DC area roads. I expect the performance issues with the switch to be negligible. The car ships with 21" wheels though and we are a bit annoyed having to pay for them but oh well.
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I am glad the Tesla is no Dodge Hellcat That's why we are buying one!
And I don't care much for the weight either as long as I can get to 60 in about 3 seconds. This will be a daily driver/family car for us and I don't know many that can offer the versatility of a Model S and leave a long line of performance cars in its wake.
The P85D we ordered came to about $126K and at that price it is an unbelievable value for the technology and performance. We look forward to an upcoming software update that will allow us to leave the car at our front door while the car drives itself to the garage, opens the garage door via HomeLink, and then park itself and close the garage door all unattended.
I'd like to see a Hellcat try and do that
That's why we are buying one!And I don't care much for the weight either as long as I can get to 60 in about 3 seconds. This will be a daily driver/family car for us and I don't know many that can offer the versatility of a Model S and leave a long line of performance cars in its wake.
The P85D we ordered came to about $126K and at that price it is an unbelievable value for the technology and performance. We look forward to an upcoming software update that will allow us to leave the car at our front door while the car drives itself to the garage, opens the garage door via HomeLink, and then park itself and close the garage door all unattended.
I'd like to see a Hellcat try and do that
A 2015 honda civic is an incredible value, your tesla is a luxury item on your list of things you wanted to own, not on your list of things you needed to own. I wish you great luck with your ev.
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I am glad the Tesla is no Dodge Hellcat That's why we are buying one!
And I don't care much for the weight either as long as I can get to 60 in about 3 seconds. This will be a daily driver/family car for us and I don't know many that can offer the versatility of a Model S and leave a long line of performance cars in its wake.
The P85D we ordered came to about $126K and at that price it is an unbelievable value for the technology and performance. We look forward to an upcoming software update that will allow us to leave the car at our front door while the car drives itself to the garage, opens the garage door via HomeLink, and then park itself and close the garage door all unattended.
I'd like to see a Hellcat try and do that
That's why we are buying one!And I don't care much for the weight either as long as I can get to 60 in about 3 seconds. This will be a daily driver/family car for us and I don't know many that can offer the versatility of a Model S and leave a long line of performance cars in its wake.
The P85D we ordered came to about $126K and at that price it is an unbelievable value for the technology and performance. We look forward to an upcoming software update that will allow us to leave the car at our front door while the car drives itself to the garage, opens the garage door via HomeLink, and then park itself and close the garage door all unattended.
I'd like to see a Hellcat try and do that
or ANY other super affordable car w/supercar perf... I've said umpteen X in other threads, once I finally let go of my V12tt.. I could easily buy the Shi-ty-Kitty and mod it to run well into lower 10's in 1/4 BUT... Big but here I'm also addicted to luxury like most of you here.. Instead of HC I'll go w/either CLS63tt or E63tt all day long.. Yet again "IF" possible to own both along w/my trucks? Would I give the Shi-tyKitty her own litterbox beside the MB? Damned right I would
I RESPECT ALL performance cars that can back up the bark w/even bigger bite.. Same way I applaud these fast new Tesla's.. Nothing cooler than AWD electric mute SWINE on donks raping 97% of perf cars nearly half the weight & made mostly for perf w/zero comparable 4 door luxury w/0-60 of 3 seconds.. Set a nice visual for you.. Latest Corvette ZR1 weighs 3200 lbs has 650 hp & on sticky surface hits 60 mph in 2.95 seconds.. Put 'em on the street at a redlight & sorry that rollerskates gonna loose by car lengths to 60.. That's just banans
BUT would I want a ZR1 too? Damned right I would..
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Lol... $126,000 for a car is a steal! They're practically giving them away.
A 2015 honda civic is an incredible value, your tesla is a luxury item on your list of things you wanted to own, not on your list of things you needed to own. I wish you great luck with your ev.
A 2015 honda civic is an incredible value, your tesla is a luxury item on your list of things you wanted to own, not on your list of things you needed to own. I wish you great luck with your ev.
For the technology offered, The Model S P85D is a steal at $126K. When we finalized our order for a December delivery the total came to about $121K because it is now possible to build and order one with 19" wheels like we had wanted to. The closest Mercedes has to that is the SLS AMG Electric and it is about 4X expensive has about half the range and is slower to boot so by comparison it really is a great value. At that price you can drive the P85D home with a bunch of groceries and with a 3.2s 0-60 out accelerate pretty much the entire Mercedes AMG lineup.
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/webspeci...-drive/eng.php
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Oh this Tesla is definitely on my list of things I need to own For the technology offered, The Model S P85D is a steal at $126K. When we finalized our order for a December delivery the total came to about $121K because it is now possible to build and order one with 19" wheels like we had wanted to. The closest Mercedes has to that is the SLS AMG Electric and it is about 4X expensive has about half the range and is slower to boot so by comparison it really is a great value.
At that price you can drive the P85D home with a bunch of groceries and with a 3.2s 0-60 out accelerate pretty much the entire Mercedes AMG lineup.
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/webspeci...-drive/eng.php
For the technology offered, The Model S P85D is a steal at $126K. When we finalized our order for a December delivery the total came to about $121K because it is now possible to build and order one with 19" wheels like we had wanted to. The closest Mercedes has to that is the SLS AMG Electric and it is about 4X expensive has about half the range and is slower to boot so by comparison it really is a great value. At that price you can drive the P85D home with a bunch of groceries and with a 3.2s 0-60 out accelerate pretty much the entire Mercedes AMG lineup.
http://www.mercedes-amg.com/webspeci...-drive/eng.php
Since the design is 5 years+ old, introducing a refresh/non-hatch back or updated roadster could sway me.
