Just drove a SL65 BS
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Just drove a SL65 BS
Wow! It's one of the most best looking AMG's to date.
But I think it would be extremely stupid of someone to spend 200K+ on it. Why? Well, number 1, it's the most uncomfortable Mercedes-AMG on this planet and number 2, it's torque isn't limited.
Just a quick review - Torque should of been limited because I was on the motorway and I tried overtake a car in front, I put my foot down and the TC went mad and slowed me down right to 50MPH.
It's acceleration is amazing in a straight line, but overtaking is literally impossible.
Being in the UK, there are bumps, pot holes and cracks in the roads (due to rain etc..)... I had to slow the Black down to a good 5 MPH to go over the bumps and when you don't see a pot hole in the road, god help you, your **** is gonna hurt for the whole week haha. I parked it on my driveway for the night. In the morning I woke up, got in it to go work and oh wow... Coming out of the driveway, the front splitter scraped against the concrete... Ouch! The seats are absolutely rock hard, theres no give in it either.
But, it's an amazing car, it looks sexy, flies like a bird, handles like crazy and sounds damn right angry! Only, I think the only BS I'd purchase, is the CLK63 BS.
-Zaman
Any thoughts on the BS are welcome, this is just my experience.
But I think it would be extremely stupid of someone to spend 200K+ on it. Why? Well, number 1, it's the most uncomfortable Mercedes-AMG on this planet and number 2, it's torque isn't limited.
Just a quick review - Torque should of been limited because I was on the motorway and I tried overtake a car in front, I put my foot down and the TC went mad and slowed me down right to 50MPH.
It's acceleration is amazing in a straight line, but overtaking is literally impossible.
Being in the UK, there are bumps, pot holes and cracks in the roads (due to rain etc..)... I had to slow the Black down to a good 5 MPH to go over the bumps and when you don't see a pot hole in the road, god help you, your **** is gonna hurt for the whole week haha. I parked it on my driveway for the night. In the morning I woke up, got in it to go work and oh wow... Coming out of the driveway, the front splitter scraped against the concrete... Ouch! The seats are absolutely rock hard, theres no give in it either.
But, it's an amazing car, it looks sexy, flies like a bird, handles like crazy and sounds damn right angry! Only, I think the only BS I'd purchase, is the CLK63 BS.
-Zaman
Any thoughts on the BS are welcome, this is just my experience.
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I am surprised to hear that. I had been thinking about trading my CLS63 on an SL 65 Black.
It doesn’t have the suspension lift on it?
Just a thought… Maybe have an Upholstery shop add padding to the seat??
I think it’s pretty amazing how much hp can be made after tuning it!
It doesn’t have the suspension lift on it?
Just a thought… Maybe have an Upholstery shop add padding to the seat??
I think it’s pretty amazing how much hp can be made after tuning it!
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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I am surprised to hear that. I had been thinking about trading my CLS63 on an SL 65 Black.
It doesn’t have the suspension lift on it?
Just a thought… Maybe have an Upholstery shop add padding to the seat??
I think it’s pretty amazing how much hp can be made after tuning it!![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
It doesn’t have the suspension lift on it?
Just a thought… Maybe have an Upholstery shop add padding to the seat??
I think it’s pretty amazing how much hp can be made after tuning it!
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Upholstery padding could be a good idea, but spending 200K+ on a car knowing that you yourself has to make it more comfortable, is a bit of a pain.
Don't bother trading the CLS63 for the SL65, I'd say, from owning a CLS63, it's far better.
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Wow! It's one of the most best looking AMG's to date.
But I think it would be extremely stupid of someone to spend 200K+ on it. Why? Well, number 1, it's the most uncomfortable Mercedes-AMG on this planet and number 2, it's torque isn't limited.
Just a quick review - Torque should of been limited because I was on the motorway and I tried overtake a car in front, I put my foot down and the TC went mad and slowed me down right to 50MPH.
It's acceleration is amazing in a straight line, but overtaking is literally impossible.
Being in the UK, there are bumps, pot holes and cracks in the roads (due to rain etc..)... I had to slow the Black down to a good 5 MPH to go over the bumps and when you don't see a pot hole in the road, god help you, your **** is gonna hurt for the whole week haha. I parked it on my driveway for the night. In the morning I woke up, got in it to go work and oh wow... Coming out of the driveway, the front splitter scraped against the concrete... Ouch! The seats are absolutely rock hard, theres no give in it either.
But, it's an amazing car, it looks sexy, flies like a bird, handles like crazy and sounds damn right angry! Only, I think the only BS I'd purchase, is the CLK63 BS.
-Zaman
Any thoughts on the BS are welcome, this is just my experience.
But I think it would be extremely stupid of someone to spend 200K+ on it. Why? Well, number 1, it's the most uncomfortable Mercedes-AMG on this planet and number 2, it's torque isn't limited.
Just a quick review - Torque should of been limited because I was on the motorway and I tried overtake a car in front, I put my foot down and the TC went mad and slowed me down right to 50MPH.
It's acceleration is amazing in a straight line, but overtaking is literally impossible.
Being in the UK, there are bumps, pot holes and cracks in the roads (due to rain etc..)... I had to slow the Black down to a good 5 MPH to go over the bumps and when you don't see a pot hole in the road, god help you, your **** is gonna hurt for the whole week haha. I parked it on my driveway for the night. In the morning I woke up, got in it to go work and oh wow... Coming out of the driveway, the front splitter scraped against the concrete... Ouch! The seats are absolutely rock hard, theres no give in it either.
But, it's an amazing car, it looks sexy, flies like a bird, handles like crazy and sounds damn right angry! Only, I think the only BS I'd purchase, is the CLK63 BS.
-Zaman
Any thoughts on the BS are welcome, this is just my experience.
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Kind of strange aspects to complain about...
1) It can most certainly overtake people... With a car as powerful as it, you dont need to floor it just to overtake... Thats just common sense.
2) The issue with the suspension is really a non-issue. The point of the Black Series cars was to create a stripped down, 'more track-like' version... Last time I checked, MB went to mechanical suspension instead of air or magnetic for the black series... Its built to go fast and handle like nothing else, more specifically, to handle at track-like speeds.
Take it for what it is. Its not built to be a fast, ULTRA-LUXURY car. Its a full out supercar. You want comfortable ride? Go grab an S63, or an S65... Thats what they are there for.
1) It can most certainly overtake people... With a car as powerful as it, you dont need to floor it just to overtake... Thats just common sense.
2) The issue with the suspension is really a non-issue. The point of the Black Series cars was to create a stripped down, 'more track-like' version... Last time I checked, MB went to mechanical suspension instead of air or magnetic for the black series... Its built to go fast and handle like nothing else, more specifically, to handle at track-like speeds.
Take it for what it is. Its not built to be a fast, ULTRA-LUXURY car. Its a full out supercar. You want comfortable ride? Go grab an S63, or an S65... Thats what they are there for.
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2) The issue with the suspension is really a non-issue. The point of the Black Series cars was to create a stripped down, 'more track-like' version... Last time I checked, MB went to mechanical suspension instead of air or magnetic for the black series... Its built to go fast and handle like nothing else, more specifically, to handle at track-like speeds.
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Not to be rude but your story sounds sort of....or exactly like the Top Gear review, from the traction problems, the uncomfortable ride to the scraping on the concrete. Again I'm not being rude I'm just curious because the similarities are exact.
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i think the euro sl65 bs has the racing tub seats, but the us one has bolstered, more comfortable seats.
i understand that there are other differences geared towards the us model being more gt and less racy.
i understand that there are other differences geared towards the us model being more gt and less racy.
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Correct, the US version has modified stock SL seats that are more comfortable. Also, the factory spec KW coilovers are adjustable for both compression and rebound.
As far as the car slowing you down to 50 mph, I've never experienced that in my Black Series or any other AMG. Unless you were trying to floor it on a damp road....but that would just be foolish, which you hopefully are not.
Front end lift kits are available, and should have been factory spec, but that would make the car far more livable.
As far as the car slowing you down to 50 mph, I've never experienced that in my Black Series or any other AMG. Unless you were trying to floor it on a damp road....but that would just be foolish, which you hopefully are not.
Front end lift kits are available, and should have been factory spec, but that would make the car far more livable.
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I ALSO agree about the power.
That's why I sold my SL55 and bought a GT-R.
After I added power to the SL it was undriveable. Too much spin and it took away from thew enjoyment of driving.
No fun driving a high HP rear wheel drive car. I don't want a highway monster. I want an ALL AROUND monster.
The SL55 was better stock.
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I agree on the looks hands down!
I ALSO agree about the power.
That's why I sold my SL55 and bought a GT-R.
After I added power to the SL it was undriveable. Too much spin and it took away from thew enjoyment of driving.
No fun driving a high HP rear wheel drive car. I don't want a highway monster. I want an ALL AROUND monster.
The SL55 was better stock.
I ALSO agree about the power.
That's why I sold my SL55 and bought a GT-R.
After I added power to the SL it was undriveable. Too much spin and it took away from thew enjoyment of driving.
No fun driving a high HP rear wheel drive car. I don't want a highway monster. I want an ALL AROUND monster.
The SL55 was better stock.
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Wow, the European version sounds horrible. My SL Black (Miami, Florida) is a joy to drive and has overtaken plenty of prancing horses and Stuttgart specials (specifically the Porsche persuasion). Seats are comfortable all day long, the ride is what you should have expected when purchasing a Black Series (or GT3, 458, etc...).
My only complaint is the lack of visceral excitement. My GT3 RS is half the "everything" (as I stated in another post) but a hell of a lot more fun than the Black, to drive. Too much control, too refined to be a proper super-car, and (at least in the US version), I cannot turn off the damn traction control and feel the shrinkage in my jockey shorts. Jeremy Clarkson had a lot more fun in the Black Series than I have in mine. Although, it is funny to pull next to "any" other super car and watch the person look over and start to melt in their seat. A very impressive look to the car, but a real bore behind the wheel (for a super car)...
My only complaint is the lack of visceral excitement. My GT3 RS is half the "everything" (as I stated in another post) but a hell of a lot more fun than the Black, to drive. Too much control, too refined to be a proper super-car, and (at least in the US version), I cannot turn off the damn traction control and feel the shrinkage in my jockey shorts. Jeremy Clarkson had a lot more fun in the Black Series than I have in mine. Although, it is funny to pull next to "any" other super car and watch the person look over and start to melt in their seat. A very impressive look to the car, but a real bore behind the wheel (for a super car)...