SLR/C199/R199/Z199: Is it true. . .
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Is it true. . .
that a brake job on an SLR is $30,000?
and that if you wreck your SLR that it has to be shipped to England to be repaired?
That's the information that the dealer shared with me yesterday.
and that if you wreck your SLR that it has to be shipped to England to be repaired?
That's the information that the dealer shared with me yesterday.
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Carbon Brake Disks last for 100,000 Miles. There is also a SLR service center here in Germany. And I think there is one in America. So you do not need to ship car back to England.
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2005 C320 Sport, 2006 ML350 (the wife)
Originally Posted by WIldcat465
that a brake job on an SLR is $30,000?
and that if you wreck your SLR that it has to be shipped to England to be repaired?
That's the information that the dealer shared with me yesterday.
and that if you wreck your SLR that it has to be shipped to England to be repaired?
That's the information that the dealer shared with me yesterday.
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'05 C55 AMG '15 Jeep SRT '11 G37S
Originally Posted by ClayJ
Techs/mechanics fly out to US to do repairs in US (and I assume elsewhere as well).
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Rotors-$15,000 each
Radio-$6000 same as an early(01-04) W203 radio, with silver trim though
Hood-$40,000
Doors-$60,000 each
Front Caliper-$3800 each
Airbrake spoiler-$9000
Headlight-$8000 each
Front Bumper-$6500
At 4 years old the car requires the spark plugs be changed. The Motor has to be removed to perform this procedure. Approx. 1 WEEK of labor is involved.
Radio-$6000 same as an early(01-04) W203 radio, with silver trim though
Hood-$40,000
Doors-$60,000 each
Front Caliper-$3800 each
Airbrake spoiler-$9000
Headlight-$8000 each
Front Bumper-$6500
At 4 years old the car requires the spark plugs be changed. The Motor has to be removed to perform this procedure. Approx. 1 WEEK of labor is involved.
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'93 RX-7, SLK55
Originally Posted by TECHNICIAN
Rotors-$15,000 each
Radio-$6000 same as an early(01-04) W203 radio, with silver trim though
Hood-$40,000
Doors-$60,000 each
Front Caliper-$3800 each
Airbrake spoiler-$9000
Headlight-$8000 each
Front Bumper-$6500
At 4 years old the car requires the spark plugs be changed. The Motor has to be removed to perform this procedure. Approx. 1 WEEK of labor is involved.
Radio-$6000 same as an early(01-04) W203 radio, with silver trim though
Hood-$40,000
Doors-$60,000 each
Front Caliper-$3800 each
Airbrake spoiler-$9000
Headlight-$8000 each
Front Bumper-$6500
At 4 years old the car requires the spark plugs be changed. The Motor has to be removed to perform this procedure. Approx. 1 WEEK of labor is involved.
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
How do you figure. Its simply a blown 5.5L powerplant with a top mount supercharger? Its pretty easy to change the plugs on my blown Kleemann SLK55.
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I cannot even see the sparking plugs.
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Compare to the SL55 engine area. Theres more room to get to the banks of the "V". I believe that the SLR has its mufflers in the same area. Which causes the main problem.
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Compare to the SL55 engine area. Theres more room to get to the banks of the "V". I believe that the SLR has its mufflers in the same area. Which causes the main problem.
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Originally Posted by MarkusD
I cannot even see the sparking plugs.
Compare to the SL55 engine area. Theres more room to get to the banks of the "V". I believe that the SLR has its mufflers in the same area. Which causes the main problem.
Compare to the SL55 engine area. Theres more room to get to the banks of the "V". I believe that the SLR has its mufflers in the same area. Which causes the main problem.
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'93 RX-7, SLK55
Originally Posted by TECHNICIAN
Have you seen one in person, or are you just stating an opinion? Good luck changing the plugs in the car. And nice try with the $60k to $465k car comparison, they are not even close to the same motor
In any case, I'll respond.
1) Yes, I've seem multiple SLRs. In fact, I almost bought one.
2) The MSRP of the car has absolutely nothing to do to ingress & egress of
a plug change (and it IS indeed the same 5.5L block, just a different
H/C & blower arrangement - thus the plugs are in the SAME location).
Getting access to the SAME location may be the limiting factor as to
"why" one would need to unhook the headers from the manifold & lift
engine for a plug change. If this is the case, its a rather poor design
& would certainly kill my remaining rational for buying one (major hassle
for simple/routine maintenance).
3) I've been wrenching on sports & muscle cars for decades so please, lose
the attitude. Its a front mount blown V8/RWD layout, not the Space Shuttle.
-Matt
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1999 Mercedes S430, 1993 Lexus SC400, 2003 Lexus ES300
Not only do the brakes catch fire
I hear your wallet/bank account catch fire right after the brakes catch fire
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
Tech, I was asking a question, not making an accusation.
In any case, I'll respond.
1) Yes, I've seem multiple SLRs. In fact, I almost bought one.
2) The MSRP of the car has absolutely nothing to do to ingress & egress of
a plug change (and it IS indeed the same 5.5L block, just a different
H/C & blower arrangement - thus the plugs are in the SAME location).
Getting access to the SAME location may be the limiting factor as to
"why" one would need to unhook the headers from the manifold & lift
engine for a plug change. If this is the case, its a rather poor design
& would certainly kill my remaining rational for buying one (major hassle
for simple/routine maintenance).
3) I've been wrenching on sports & muscle cars for decades so please, lose
the attitude. Its a front mount blown V8/RWD layout, not the Space Shuttle.
-Matt
In any case, I'll respond.
1) Yes, I've seem multiple SLRs. In fact, I almost bought one.
2) The MSRP of the car has absolutely nothing to do to ingress & egress of
a plug change (and it IS indeed the same 5.5L block, just a different
H/C & blower arrangement - thus the plugs are in the SAME location).
Getting access to the SAME location may be the limiting factor as to
"why" one would need to unhook the headers from the manifold & lift
engine for a plug change. If this is the case, its a rather poor design
& would certainly kill my remaining rational for buying one (major hassle
for simple/routine maintenance).
3) I've been wrenching on sports & muscle cars for decades so please, lose
the attitude. Its a front mount blown V8/RWD layout, not the Space Shuttle.
-Matt
The M155 block in the SLR is a totally different design then the M113 block in your car. It is a multi-piece casting where the crank is dropped in, the bottom half of the block is then bolted to the top half, then the oil pan(dry sump in this case) is bolted to that. Yours is 1 piece, with a upper and lower oil pan.
Heads are supposedly the same with exception of valvetrain and cams.
The headers/exhaust is the main factor in the problem with changing the plugs. They are shoved as close to the block as possible, with a **** load of heat shielding on EVERYTHING, even plug wires if you look, and to add fuel to the fire the engine is located so far back there is NO room to remove any of this in the car. The engine must me dropped from the bottom of the car to gain access.
Sorry if you think this is rediculous, but people spending this type of money on a vehicle aren't usually that concerned with it. Its no different than a belt service on a Ferrari that requires engine out.
So yes your car and the SLR have the same plug location, but are in no way the same when it comes down to doing the actual work. I'm not basing this on **** I have heard or seen on the internet, I do this **** for a living...check my profile. And I agree its not the space shuttle, I'd spend my $475k on a Carrera GT.
BTW: I have a black/black R1 also
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I don't get it. It's as if they made the car as expensive to maintain as possible. Who in their right mind would buy one particularly since there are better, more interesting car with lower maintenance costs. I probably think this way becuase I'm too poor to have one. I think I'll stick with my SL.
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Originally Posted by NOTKTS
No worse than the 5-Figure Valve adjustment on the CGT when it hits 20K...
Overall, it's a small price to pay for a street legal LM prototype
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As for the SLR brake job, I don't doubt the cost, but it's not something that'll be done very often in the life of the car. Probably at most once, unless you're tracking your car quite a bit. Those carbon ceramic brakes are pretty durable. Still, if you have the money for the car to begin with, another $30K doesn't add that much, and I suspect that the routine maintenance costs will far exceeed the costs to replace the brakes.
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Originally Posted by DMin
As for the SLR brake job, I don't doubt the cost, but it's not something that'll be done very often in the life of the car. Probably at most once, unless you're tracking your car quite a bit. Those carbon ceramic brakes are pretty durable. Still, if you have the money for the car to begin with, another $30K doesn't add that much, and I suspect that the routine maintenance costs will far exceeed the costs to replace the brakes.
As for the engineering behind the motor layout, It wasn't designed to keep maintenance costs down, it was made to be Mercedes contribution to the world of supercars. They did a pretty decent job if you ask me.
I'd still take one of what DMin drives over it though
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Yeah, But if you ask me I wouldn't even put the SLR in the same category as the CGT. The SLR is The Ultimate GT, No questions asked. The CGT is more of a track car if you ask me compared to a touring car.
Each to their own
Each to their own
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W203 slightly modified
Originally Posted by TECHNICIAN
Rotors-$15,000 each
Radio-$6000 same as an early(01-04) W203 radio, with silver trim though
Hood-$40,000
Doors-$60,000 each
Front Caliper-$3800 each
Airbrake spoiler-$9000
Headlight-$8000 each
Front Bumper-$6500
At 4 years old the car requires the spark plugs be changed. The Motor has to be removed to perform this procedure. Approx. 1 WEEK of labor is involved.
Radio-$6000 same as an early(01-04) W203 radio, with silver trim though
Hood-$40,000
Doors-$60,000 each
Front Caliper-$3800 each
Airbrake spoiler-$9000
Headlight-$8000 each
Front Bumper-$6500
At 4 years old the car requires the spark plugs be changed. The Motor has to be removed to perform this procedure. Approx. 1 WEEK of labor is involved.
People who can afford these cars and dont drive them much must think that they will live long enough to drive something better.