SLS/R197/C197 AMG: An expensive flop
10-11-2010, 01:39 PM
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There are too many really nice cars in the $200k+ price range. I don't know why MB tries to compete in that market segment, kinda like Lexus with that IS-F. I guess with a limited production run, they can be profitable as long as it's a chasis in which they've already made money on (such as the SL63BS and the CLK63BS), but with SLS and kinda-sorta the McLaren SLR, which is almost a new design (SLS based on the Dodge Viper and the SLR sharing a lot of R230 parts), they may be able to make some money from the few car collectors. They're definitely not targeting any of us; more like the $30MM net worth people that just like to collect cars.
However, for the rest of us, before I bought my LP640, I was considering the SLS. But c'mon... is that really a choice?
However, for the rest of us, before I bought my LP640, I was considering the SLS. But c'mon... is that really a choice?
10-12-2010, 05:32 AM
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I havent seen you for a while jl88...congrats on that lambo...hell of a car
I feel many potential SLS owners already have quite an exotic stable and this new Gullwing AMG is MB's new prize stud
apples vs oranges
I feel many potential SLS owners already have quite an exotic stable and this new Gullwing AMG is MB's new prize stud
apples vs oranges
10-17-2010, 05:12 PM
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I disagree that SLS targeted at the $30MM and up crowd, though I'm sure many from that crowd will buy one too. The LP640 outprices the SLS considerably and is a harsh, bull of a car (bad pun intended). Many people who have $200k to spend on a car want something fast AND luxurious. I think MBZ nailed it. The SLS is beautiful, rare, unique and is still a Mercedes.
10-17-2010, 08:04 PM
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I disagree that SLS targeted at the $30MM and up crowd, though I'm sure many from that crowd will buy one too. The LP640 outprices the SLS considerably and is a harsh, bull of a car (bad pun intended). Many people who have $200k to spend on a car want something fast AND luxurious. I think MBZ nailed it. The SLS is beautiful, rare, unique and is still a Mercedes.
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10-18-2010, 12:10 AM
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I disagree that SLS targeted at the $30MM and up crowd, though I'm sure many from that crowd will buy one too. The LP640 outprices the SLS considerably and is a harsh, bull of a car (bad pun intended). Many people who have $200k to spend on a car want something fast AND luxurious. I think MBZ nailed it. The SLS is beautiful, rare, unique and is still a Mercedes.
10-19-2010, 09:51 AM
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There are too many really nice cars in the $200k+ price range. I don't know why MB tries to compete in that market segment, kinda like Lexus with that IS-F. I guess with a limited production run, they can be profitable as long as it's a chasis in which they've already made money on (such as the SL63BS and the CLK63BS), but with SLS and kinda-sorta the McLaren SLR, which is almost a new design (SLS based on the Dodge Viper and the SLR sharing a lot of R230 parts), they may be able to make some money from the few car collectors. They're definitely not targeting any of us; more like the $30MM net worth people that just like to collect cars.
However, for the rest of us, before I bought my LP640, I was considering the SLS. But c'mon... is that really a choice?
However, for the rest of us, before I bought my LP640, I was considering the SLS. But c'mon... is that really a choice?
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10-19-2010, 06:25 PM
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Finally had a chance to drive the SLS.
It truly is beautiful,it handles great,plenty of power,nothing to complain here.
It is a FLOP though,totally useless to anyone of my size (6'4" ,210lbs).
My forehead was inches from the A Pillar,my knees were pushed against the lower dashboard in order to recline the back just a bit and when I pulled the door shut,it slammed the top of my head so bad my teeth rattled.
It is one of the best sports cars on the market for the money it costs but only for midgets....
Btw,I have no problem as far as roominess with any newer (from 1995) Ferrari,Porsche or even Lamborghini,the only car that is more cramped then the SLS is the Elise/Exige.
It truly is beautiful,it handles great,plenty of power,nothing to complain here.
It is a FLOP though,totally useless to anyone of my size (6'4" ,210lbs).
My forehead was inches from the A Pillar,my knees were pushed against the lower dashboard in order to recline the back just a bit and when I pulled the door shut,it slammed the top of my head so bad my teeth rattled.
It is one of the best sports cars on the market for the money it costs but only for midgets....
Btw,I have no problem as far as roominess with any newer (from 1995) Ferrari,Porsche or even Lamborghini,the only car that is more cramped then the SLS is the Elise/Exige.
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10-19-2010, 06:58 PM
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Finally had a chance to drive the SLS.
It truly is beautiful,it handles great,plenty of power,nothing to complain here.
It is a FLOP though,totally useless to anyone of my size (6'4" ,210lbs).
My forehead was inches from the A Pillar,my knees were pushed against the lower dashboard in order to recline the back just a bit and when I pulled the door shut,it slammed the top of my head so bad my teeth rattled.
It is one of the best sports cars on the market for the money it costs but only for midgets....
Btw,I have no problem as far as roominess with any newer (from 1995) Ferrari,Porsche or even Lamborghini,the only car that is more cramped then the SLS is the Elise/Exige.
It truly is beautiful,it handles great,plenty of power,nothing to complain here.
It is a FLOP though,totally useless to anyone of my size (6'4" ,210lbs).
My forehead was inches from the A Pillar,my knees were pushed against the lower dashboard in order to recline the back just a bit and when I pulled the door shut,it slammed the top of my head so bad my teeth rattled.
It is one of the best sports cars on the market for the money it costs but only for midgets....
Btw,I have no problem as far as roominess with any newer (from 1995) Ferrari,Porsche or even Lamborghini,the only car that is more cramped then the SLS is the Elise/Exige.
10-20-2010, 12:32 AM
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Finally had a chance to drive the SLS.
It truly is beautiful,it handles great,plenty of power,nothing to complain here.
It is a FLOP though,totally useless to anyone of my size (6'4" ,210lbs).
My forehead was inches from the A Pillar,my knees were pushed against the lower dashboard in order to recline the back just a bit and when I pulled the door shut,it slammed the top of my head so bad my teeth rattled.
It is one of the best sports cars on the market for the money it costs but only for midgets....
Btw,I have no problem as far as roominess with any newer (from 1995) Ferrari,Porsche or even Lamborghini,the only car that is more cramped then the SLS is the Elise/Exige.
It truly is beautiful,it handles great,plenty of power,nothing to complain here.
It is a FLOP though,totally useless to anyone of my size (6'4" ,210lbs).
My forehead was inches from the A Pillar,my knees were pushed against the lower dashboard in order to recline the back just a bit and when I pulled the door shut,it slammed the top of my head so bad my teeth rattled.
It is one of the best sports cars on the market for the money it costs but only for midgets....
Btw,I have no problem as far as roominess with any newer (from 1995) Ferrari,Porsche or even Lamborghini,the only car that is more cramped then the SLS is the Elise/Exige.
10-20-2010, 08:35 AM
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I was a bit shocked though to see that Mercedes would make a car that would be impossible to drive for a significant number of drivers.
10-20-2010, 11:16 AM
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10-20-2010, 06:21 PM
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There are too many really nice cars in the $200k+ price range. I don't know why MB tries to compete in that market segment, kinda like Lexus with that IS-F. I guess with a limited production run, they can be profitable as long as it's a chasis in which they've already made money on (such as the SL63BS and the CLK63BS), but with SLS and kinda-sorta the McLaren SLR, which is almost a new design (SLS based on the Dodge Viper and the SLR sharing a lot of R230 parts), they may be able to make some money from the few car collectors. They're definitely not targeting any of us; more like the $30MM net worth people that just like to collect cars.
However, for the rest of us, before I bought my LP640, I was considering the SLS. But c'mon... is that really a choice?
However, for the rest of us, before I bought my LP640, I was considering the SLS. But c'mon... is that really a choice?
Why would you compare a car that is much more expensive ? The two cars are absolutely not in the same range. Perhaps had you picked up an Audi R8 or a Gallardo. The 640 and SLS are not in the same niche . If you were looking at an SLS and 640 and decided to spend 150-250k more for slower track times hats off..
Here is why people are buying the SLS, it EATS THE COMPETITION IN ITS CLASS.. SLS vs Gallardo SLS wins, SLS vs R8 , SLS wins, SLS vs SL65 , SLS wins,
10-20-2010, 07:06 PM
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Why would you compare a car that is much more expensive ? The two cars are absolutely not in the same range. Perhaps had you picked up an Audi R8 or a Gallardo. The 640 and SLS are not in the same niche . If you were looking at an SLS and 640 and decided to spend 150-250k more for slower track times hats off..
Here is why people are buying the SLS, it EATS THE COMPETITION IN ITS CLASS.. SLS vs Gallardo SLS wins, SLS vs R8 , SLS wins, SLS vs SL65 , SLS wins,
Here is why people are buying the SLS, it EATS THE COMPETITION IN ITS CLASS.. SLS vs Gallardo SLS wins, SLS vs R8 , SLS wins, SLS vs SL65 , SLS wins,
2007 LP640's are in the 200k range. Which is the same price range as the SLS.
Like I said previously, when you're in the 200k+ price range, there are a lot of nice sports cars out there. MBUSA hasn't been successful competing in that market (SL63BS).
10-20-2010, 07:30 PM
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Why does it have to be new car vs new car?
2007 LP640's are in the 200k range. Which is the same price range as the SLS.
Like I said previously, when you're in the 200k+ price range, there are a lot of nice sports cars out there. MBUSA hasn't been successful competing in that market (SL63BS).
2007 LP640's are in the 200k range. Which is the same price range as the SLS.
Like I said previously, when you're in the 200k+ price range, there are a lot of nice sports cars out there. MBUSA hasn't been successful competing in that market (SL63BS).
So would you rather have a 2010 LP640 and spend 400k vs a new SLS?
10-20-2010, 09:01 PM
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10-21-2010, 11:15 AM
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As I said, I am 5ft 9 inches and about 220lbs, but still found it excepionally
tight. Perhaps the seats loosen up with use, your wallet sure does.
tight. Perhaps the seats loosen up with use, your wallet sure does.
10-21-2010, 12:01 PM
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10-22-2010, 08:51 AM
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Crazy that he fits in and guys that are much smaller are having so many problems.
