SLS/R197/C197 AMG: Optimum time to buy SLS: Bottom Depreciation curve; 4yr warranty tail; 5yr: 2017-2018




http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/gen...leveled-2.html
Comments:
"lease ending on a 2012 Gull with 8k miles and the buyout is $119k"
6/15 Manheim Wholesale values:
03/04/15 SF BAY Lease $120,500 6,669
05/07/15 RIVRSIDE Factory $118,000 13,383
General comments
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/gen...e-bargain.html
Posts/pics from actual new owners in 2015 is very wide range from $130-160K
Im actually looking for '11-'12 base, no option, car in Iridium/Blk int
Only question is, is there any benefit from buying from a M-B dealer to lock in CPO or extended Starmark 3y/100K warranty.
Called major SoCal dealers to express my interest...
Last edited by Kayvan007; Nov 6, 2015 at 06:54 PM.
If the extended warranty is a must, you'll probably have to go for a 13.
This makes no sense but, whatever ....to each their own. Put on you negotiating panties and step up and buy one of these. They (dealers) won't CPO SLS's ...too much risk.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1981&Log=0
Post up when you actually do.
PS so you don't get burned....
There is an ELW available on the SLS, but the vehicle has to meet certain conditions and here are the details:
- A pre-owned SLS would only be eligible for an ELW only if it meets the following conditions:
o The customer purchased the vehicle privately or through a non Mercedes-Benz dealership AND
o The vehicle has not gone through a Mercedes-Benz dealer’s pre-owned inventory AND
o The vehicle is still under the new vehicle factory warranty.
----> Otherwise it would need to be a Certified Pre-Owned by the dealer and then it would be eligible for the CPO ELW.
if the dealer is unsure of the process they should call the WSG (Warranty Services Group)
William Vetter
Asst. Product Manager - AMG & Black Series
Exclusive Vehicles
Mercedes-Benz USA
Last edited by NewportSLS; Nov 7, 2015 at 12:47 AM.
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However, I'm going to stick by the rule of thumb that "5yr old exotics" are in their peak depreciation phase.
EVERY exotic from the vaunted Carrera GT to Ford GT to Enzo and on and on bottomed out near that; then plateaued/rose OR sank for a minimum of 20 years.
I dont think the SLS is going to defy the laws of physics or economics
2011's, 5years out, or next year 2016-17 is my view for buy.
The 2-4yr lease runoff
The 5yr rule
Major B service, tires, deffered maintenance
2012-1014 will go thru same over next 5 years; doubt the year will matter in 2020; while condition and mileage matter more on 7-10yr old car.
Test driving two in LA this weekend; will hold out for Iridium/Black/5-spoke
Last edited by Kayvan007; Nov 25, 2015 at 07:44 PM.
As a die-hard M-B SL fan for 35yrs, I doubt M-B will produce another SL of this collectibility ever.
If the right car comes along I have no issue pulling trigger within +/- $20,000 range over current prices.
Not going to pull it just to do so, buying right in next 12-15 mos is goal.
On another note, can you or someone else explain how truecar came up with the $93,000??
Here are my +/- impressions of '11 15K+ mile car:
This is not to be OCD, overly critical or knock the SLS; just a sober assessment as $150-175,000 is not a small sum, and once must evaluate quality, design aesthetics, and compare v. competition and collectible market standards.
Positives:
Gullwing doors; obvious presence/charisma
Elite heritage, taste, & class of model
Fit & finish of exterior, gaps, lines, and surfaces
Owning a flagship AMG-Mercedes sports cars
Details: finned wheels, Star/Wide grill; wide-stance and width
Negatives:
Seems small (even at 181")
Very truncated rear almost ovoid; bumpers are longest point tip and wheelbase edges sharply rounded
Paint-quality; not deep, orange peel; somewhat flat color
Interior; use of plastic/fibreboard on thresholds, edges, trunk interior valence; C-class quality seat switches; flimsy clicks of small storage containers, glove-box, storage areas.
Seat doesnt feel solid; rocks/squeaks when adjusts
Leather seams thin; shows wear (red esp.) and appears shiny from use
Door shuts not classic M-B solid; rather hollow sound
Visibility OK; somewhat sunken.
OK-- realize all this sounds negative and like I am talking myself out of a SLS.
Rather, I'm just looking at pros/cons; feel buying any exotic with rose-colored glasses and not focusing on things that may annoy/irritate is not realistic. I think the SLS made some compromises in being a Supercar AND GT-Grand-Tourer; some of those are materials/execution and are reflected in price.
For example; felt the interior fit/finish was not on par with an Audi R8's flawless interior execution or a top of the line 911 or even Lambo Galllardo from 2011.
Those plastic switches, interior plastic covers, thresholds, lips/valence were closer to my Vette than say an Aston, R8 or Bentley for same money.
Now, this may not be reasonable. I had in the back of my mind a FORD GT whose interior panels are ALL covered in flush fit immaculate leather, and polished magnesium and switch-gear is all metallic. Granted the GT is essentially a 'bespoke' super-car and every part was nearly custom made. The GT seat is a solid carbon fiber SPARCO race seat covered in napa leather, thats solid as a bank vault at rest or 200mph.
Never the less, the comparisons helped me to anchor my self and not get carried away into "Oh, what the heck I found the perfect SLS for $175K, I'll just buy it".
Rather, for $175K I would buy a Tungsten salvage/repaired Ford GT; thats a screaming 'value buy' v. a SLS at market.
For me, the SLS is a strong buy in the $135-150K range. Its a landmark design yes; its has shortcomings as expected for M-B to be able to produce it under $200K.
I'm still a motivated buyer; just more so, for the car I want and below a ceiling of $150K.
Note: battery died, so not test drive
Last edited by Kayvan007; Nov 27, 2015 at 07:05 PM.

I did see one when I started shopping 12-14 months ago. It was $99,000 with somewhere between 103-109,000 miles on it. My reality is.. if I lose $50,000 on the car in the next 5 years, I will still be very happy with it.

If it actually goes up and stays up, I will pee my pants from laughing so hard. Should I get a box of Depends?
If by "bespoke" you meant "handbuilt", the SLS is just as hand-built as the FGT. Any doubts, just watch this:
I guess it all depends on your time horizon. Mine is 10-20 years, in which case, the SLS is a strong buy, period. I'm not going to lose sleep over whether I paid $10k too much.
No one can predict prices either way....desperate sellers always exist so I'm sure $98K or $129K and $130K (sold this month) will happen again.
My take is $125-150-175K all have takers.
Threshold for expectations short/long term are different for each price point.
Last edited by Kayvan007; Nov 28, 2015 at 10:59 AM.
This was dark red car with red/black interior and CF dash/trim; worn amg leather on sills.
Somehow looked dark and tired inside; maybe contrasts or colors were off.
Remember the iridium really popping and blending well with trim, grills, glass and wheels; all black interior and aluminum dash looking all business.
Last edited by Kayvan007; Nov 28, 2015 at 12:49 AM.
MB
http://www.scottgrundfor.com/2015-mo...results-300sl/
Original MSRP in the '50s was around $10-12k USD (in '50s dollars). Not a bad ROI (potential) if you can hang on to your SLS for 60 years. I'm sure I'll be 6 feet under by then. lol.



