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W210 E55 project update

Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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W210 E55 project update

..........In November last year I posted pics of my W210 E55 projuects. I got some constructive responses from forum members and when updating the car, I took account of some of those inputs. Here is the finished product. I'll post some before pictures first.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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............these are the after pics

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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...more after pics

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Ted, looks great!! I'm lovin the black wheels. Are those new or did you just refinish them.?
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Car ran 11.9 @ 116 earlier. HP and torque numbers were 431 and 450. Since then I have done the following performance modifications:

1. custom torque converter
2. Kleemann sport camshafts
3. custom 50mm Kleemann supercharger pulley
4. Custom quad exhausts with spare tire well delete
5. Engine bore

...........current HP and torque number 440RWHP and 506Lbft Rear wheel torque. Very pleased with the torque. Translates to 550HP and 632Lbft of torque at the crank.

...........new 1/4 mile and trapspeed figures pending.

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Ted, looks great!! I'm lovin the black wheels. Are those new or did you just refinish them.?

.............thanks. Those are new rims. I went from 18's to 19's.

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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............pics of new exhaust and pic of rear rim.

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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
Car ran 11.9 @ 116 earlier. HP and torque numbers were 431 and 450. Since then I have done the following performance modifications:

1. custom torque converter
2. Kleemann sport camshafts
3. custom 50mm Kleemann supercharger pulley
4. Custom quad exhausts with spare tire well delete
5. Engine bore

...........current HP and torque number 440RWHP and 506Lbft Rear wheel torque. Very pleased with the torque. Translates to 550HP and 632Lbft of torque at the crank.

...........new 1/4 mile and trapspeed figures pending.

Ted
Looks great Ted! As far as crank 550HP since Kleemann advertises it on their website that if you have S8 you're suppose to be somewhere around 596hp correct? But i guess since you're not at sea level that's probably why you're getting only 550hp? Your custom pulley how much smaller is it from the original and how much boost are you running? Also with the engine bore did you gain anything from that?
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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Looks good...you have invested lots of money in these old 210 55...Why ???
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Looks great Ted! As far as crank 550HP since Kleemann advertises it on their website that if you have S8 you're suppose to be somewhere around 596hp correct? But i guess since you're not at sea level that's probably why you're getting only 550hp? Your custom pulley how much smaller is it from the original and how much boost are you running? Also with the engine bore did you gain anything from that?
.........you may wish to pay as little attention as possible to tuners advertised HP figures. I have less Hp but considerably more torque than advertised. The torque did not come from Kleemann, but came from the custom torque converter. Infactthis is the only W210 to brake into the 500's for either RWHP or rear wheel torque. Unfortunately there are not that many E55 S8's to compare RWHP and RWTorque. Yours is the only other one and you haven't had a chance to dyno your car.

..........non W210 E55's are not an appropriate comparison since the C55 and the SLK55's have higher baseline HP of 365 which will bring them closer to Kleemann's promised land. But torque is what really matters at this stage. The car ran 11.9 with 450Rear wheel torque. With 506Rear Wheel torque car should be comfortably in the high 11's consistently........which was my plan, hence the torque converter.

.........the pulley is 10mm smaller. The boost level is about 8 pounds.

........As far as engine bore........best description is to call it cylinder bore. Displacement was not increased, rather the smoothness of the cylinder surface was improved. No incresed Hp was expected. Idea is to get the car consistently in the 11's.

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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Looks good...you have invested lots of money in these old 210 55...Why ???

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Ted, love the car - especially the dual mufflers.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Ted, love the car - especially the dual mufflers.
...........thanks. I wanted to go with true dual mufflers instead of single muffler with four pipes. The challenge then was how to eliminate the spare tire well and develop a bumper with identical oem size molded surfaces for the 4 pipes.

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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Very tight, Ted!! I especially like the steering wheel - how much for the steering wheel?
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Ted I really Love the interior color. Great Choice!
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 02:59 AM
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Very tight, Ted!! I especially like the steering wheel - how much for the steering wheel?
..........Thanks. The steering wheel is a modified Victor steering wheel I got from Evosport. The Wood inserts were then wrapped in leather to match the interior. The interior leather work including the suede headliner and steering wheel were all done at the same time, so I do not have separate pricing for the steering wheel. Here is a picture of the rest of the interior.

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Ted I really Love the interior color. Great Choice
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Looks great Ted! As far as crank 550HP since Kleemann advertises it on their website that if you have S8 you're suppose to be somewhere around 596hp correct? But i guess since you're not at sea level that's probably why you're getting only 550hp? Your custom pulley how much smaller is it from the original and how much boost are you running? Also with the engine bore did you gain anything from that?

................a friend of mine pointed this out to me today. The gain from the cylinder bore was actually 10RWHP since previous dyno was 430RWHP and new Dyno shows 440RWHP. I am not sure how much it contributed to the incredible 506LBft of rear wheel torque, the highest ever in a W210. Even Kleemanns advertised torque figure for an S8 (which is considered high) is only 450LBft of rear wheel torque. I was so amazed by this, the car was re-dynoed again and got the same numbers. This is why you see two overlapping graphs on the dynograph I posted. Needless to say, I am very pleased. Off to the track when the weather gets cooler.

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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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ted what yr is your car

..............2000

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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
................a friend of mine pointed this out to me today. The gain from the cylinder bore was actually 10RWHP since previous dyno was 430RWHP and new Dyno shows 440RWHP. I am not sure how much it contributed to the incredible 506LBft of rear wheel torque, the highest ever in a W210. Even Kleemanns advertised torque figure for an S8 (which is considered high) is only 450LBft of rear wheel torque. I was so amazed by this, the car was re-dynoed again and got the same numbers. This is why you see two overlapping graphs on the dynograph I posted. Needless to say, I am very pleased. Off to the track when the weather gets cooler.

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Thanks for the info Ted. Was told that it might be your torque converter that helped a lot to put you on that 500+lb of torque. Needless to say that's amazing. I know a stock 211 55 would be no match. Have you tried going against a K2 or higher to see what the outcome is?
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Thanks for the info Ted. Was told that it might be your torque converter that helped a lot to put you on that 500+lb of torque. Needless to say that's amazing. I know a stock 211 55 would be no match. Have you tried going against a K2 or higher to see what the outcome is?

.........I have done street races with friends that have stock W211 E55's and beat them easily. This was last december before the torque converter etc. No flaming, I like the W211 E55!!!, Its just that in addition to all the other stuff my car also has a 3.07 diff so there is not much the car won't beat off the line. I do not personally know anyone that has a W211 E55 K2, so I have not raced any. It will be interesting to see.

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.........I have done street races with friends that have stock W211 E55's and beat them easily. This was last december before the torque converter etc. No flaming, I like the W211 E55!!!, Its just that in addition to all the other stuff my car also has a 3.07 diff so there is not much the car won't beat off the line. I do not personally know anyone that has a W211 E55 K2, so I have not raced any. It will be interesting to see.

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That's pretty much what i figured on a stock W211 55. The K2+ would be an interesting match. I was going to go with the 3.07 but after doing some thinking it's not going to benifit me that much since i'm already having a hard time getting traction even with the LSD. When i get the car back maybe i can run with Loren and his K2 and see what the outcome is. One other thing do you still have your resonator or did you take them out?
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