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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Smile Kleemann SC owner, will you recommend...?

I always want to get Kleemann SC installed in my V6.
I know, it is not worth, I can't get much power, and....
But, after reading Peter's story, I am wondering,

Will you recommend Kleemann?
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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EVen though Peter has had some issues with his Kleemann, yes i would still recommend them. Do you think there's a "perfect" tuner out there?

If you look at his thread the shop who installed it is doing their best to resolve the problem.

Although i'm not sure if Kleemann still makes a s/c application for your V6 though.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben'z
I always want to get Kleemann SC installed in my V6.
I know, it is not worth, I can't get much power, and....
But, after reading Peter's story, I am wondering,

Will you recommend Kleemann?
If I could go back with what I know now I would choose HPS Gen 2. At least their number are more realistic. With Kleemann you can just pick a number out of a hat and make it what ever you want because you can't prove or disprove it. They know you can't so you have to take their word for it. They hoping no one would try to prove them wrong just make them rich.

Why would one stick one head up a horses as* when you can take the driver word for it.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 12:55 AM
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Unfortunately, there is only a few companies make supercharge for M112 V6 motor.
I can only choose "take it", or "not take it".
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:11 AM
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I've been happy with my Kleemann s/c. Not sure how it'll be on a V-6. Maybe Ted will chime in... he used to own a CLK 320 with Kleemann s/c.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 03:31 AM
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Has HPS straightened it's act out? Man I've read some horror stories about the Gen II. Anyone recently installed an HPS S/C....I mean for nearly 6 grand less...if they got their tuning issues worked out...it might not be worth selling my low mileage 210...I only have 34K...the car is like new. I really like the interior, I really like the W210 center dash, but that W211 power

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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The Kleemann s/c made sense back when JamE55 and I got it. The W211 E55's were $80K, the CLK 55's were $75K and only had 350HP. Now you can get a W211 E55 for $30K and a CLK55 or W210 E55 for $15K. I don't see the advantage at this time of a Kleeemann s/c. You can sell your E320 for almost the same ammount it will cost you to get a W210 E55 which will be faster and MUCH MUCH MUCH less hassle than supercharging your E320 at twice the cost. Makes no sense to me. To me, market forces have made the Kleemann s/c's not that attractive in 2008. An 05 CL600 today is $30K. Why supercharge? I like Kleemann but I think their next big wave will come if they develop forced induction for the 63's. I understand they are working on it. As far as modifications for the AMGV8K, VRP group seem to be taking over.

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Originally Posted by Tacjam
I really like the interior, I really like the W210 center dash, but that W211 power
Exactly what i have now. The nice interior (full silver CF) of my W210 with the W211 power and more!

Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
The Kleemann s/c made sense back when JamE55 and I got it. The W211 E55's were $80K, the CLK 55's were $75K and only had 350HP. Now you can get a W211 E55 for $30K and a CLK55 or W210 E55 for $15K. I don't see the advantage at this time of a Kleeemann s/c. You can sell your E320 for almost the same ammount it will cost you to get a W210 E55 which will be faster and MUCH MUCH MUCH less hassle than supercharging your E320 at twice the cost. Makes no sense to me. To me, market forces have made the Kleemann s/c's not that attractive in 2008. An 05 CL600 today is $30K. Why supercharge? I like Kleemann but I think their next big wave will come if they develop forced induction for the 63's. I understand they are working on it. As far as modifications for the AMGV8K, VRP group seem to be taking over.

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Ted does make a good point here. Should be interesting to see VRP's s/c kit once it's completed. Heard that Kleemann has a source for twin screw but too expensive. We'll see....
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Exactly what i have now. The nice interior (full silver CF) of my W210 with the W211 power and more!


Ted does make a good point here. Should be interesting to see VRP's s/c kit once it's completed. Heard that Kleemann has a source for twin screw but too expensive. We'll see....
JamE55,
Is VRP working on a SC for the W210? I thought they only had parts for the W211 ??
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Originally Posted by maxwerks
JamE55,
Is VRP working on a SC for the W210? I thought they only had parts for the W211 ??
They are not working on a s/c for the W210.
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I totally agree with the money issue. It really not worth to invest her any further. But, it is hard for me to separate with her at this time. I am thinking about keep her for another 100,000 miles. Maybe, not a good idea.

Maybe Kleemann should make the price.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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All this being said with Kleeman...how about the HPS Gen II system...it's a lot cheaper?

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Originally Posted by Tacjam
All this being said with Kleeman...how about the HPS Gen II system...it's a lot cheaper?

Jim
Look up AMGSC's 20+ pages thread saga. Should tell you something.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Look up AMGSC's 20+ pages thread saga. Should tell you something.
That was a couple of years ago. So HPS hasn't changed anything since then? They're still in buisness.

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Installing a supercharger on your car will be more expensive than upgrading to a V8 car.
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Yes! A W210 E55 is from $15,000-$20,000, and Kleemann V6 SC is $9,500 plus $4,000 labor.

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Installing a supercharger on your car will be more expensive than upgrading to a V8 car.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:29 AM
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Yes! A W210 E55 is from $15,000-$20,000, and Kleemann V6 SC is $9,500 plus $4,000 labor.
Told you. Installing upgrades that are worth more than your car is never a bright idea.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
Installing a supercharger on your car will be more expensive than upgrading to a V8 car.
.............it is even worse than that. The guy can probably sell his E320 for say $9K and buy a W210 E55 for $6K. Net money out of pocket is $7K and the W210 E55 will still be faster than a Kleemann s/ced E320 which will cost him about $12-13K installed. It is almost twice the cost of just buying a W210 E55.

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Get a used twin-screw Kleemann like I did. I think you can find one in good condition for $6K. Buying the new Eaton roots design Kleemann just does not make the same power as the Autorotor twin-screw design.

The difference between the 2 is signficant in terms of price and power.
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What about nitrous for some extra power? Has anyone succesfully sprayed these cars? Im really intrested.
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