***Rear Camber Kit Sale***
#27
Banned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Heart of America
Posts: 515
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
CLK430
#31
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: S.E. FLA.
Posts: 1,224
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
05 ML-500 , 03 CLK5.5 AMG has left the Garage
P-1 Camber bars kit
Hey Snooozie; I've install several sets of these kits from P-1 . It takes about 40 minutes per-side in my Driveway , including putting the car up on Jack stands & removing the tires. These kits are very high quality. So Much better than the old Speedy benz stuff from years ago. You will need a 15/16ths & 1" open end wrenches to tighten the jam nuts. They have very large & very good Quality poly bushings. Check for the OEM attachment bolt fitment to the new poly , steel bushing. My Buddies 2001 E-320 4 matic Wagon had Self leveling hyd assist shocks & the chassis side only bushing that comes in the new camber bar kit, needed to be open up to the next size drill bit. This can be done with a hand drill & a Bench vise to hold the bushing. My 03 CLK & my friends 2002 CLK did not need this . This is just a FYI. easy to do . In a hour & 1/2 you can be done ?
I would lay the old OEM bars on the bench. take the new P-1 bars & set them on top of the OEM bar you just removed. adjust the P-1 so the bolts just align & drop through perfectly , then lengthen the P-1 bars 2 turns longer. That will get you in the ball park. Have fun It is easily
Cheers _PTEngineering
I would lay the old OEM bars on the bench. take the new P-1 bars & set them on top of the OEM bar you just removed. adjust the P-1 so the bolts just align & drop through perfectly , then lengthen the P-1 bars 2 turns longer. That will get you in the ball park. Have fun It is easily
Cheers _PTEngineering
#32
Super Member
Hey Snooozie; I've install several sets of these kits from P-1 . It takes about 40 minutes per-side in my Driveway , including putting the car up on Jack stands & removing the tires. These kits are very high quality. So Much better than the old Speedy benz stuff from years ago. You will need a 15/16ths & 1" open end wrenches to tighten the jam nuts. They have very large & very good Quality poly bushings. Check for the OEM attachment bolt fitment to the new poly , steel bushing. My Buddies 2001 E-320 4 matic Wagon had Self leveling hyd assist shocks & the chassis side only bushing that comes in the new camber bar kit, needed to be open up to the next size drill bit. This can be done with a hand drill & a Bench vise to hold the bushing. My 03 CLK & my friends 2002 CLK did not need this . This is just a FYI. easy to do . In a hour & 1/2 you can be done ?
I would lay the old OEM bars on the bench. take the new P-1 bars & set them on top of the OEM bar you just removed. adjust the P-1 so the bolts just align & drop through perfectly , then lengthen the P-1 bars 2 turns longer. That will get you in the ball park. Have fun It is easily
Cheers _PTEngineering
I would lay the old OEM bars on the bench. take the new P-1 bars & set them on top of the OEM bar you just removed. adjust the P-1 so the bolts just align & drop through perfectly , then lengthen the P-1 bars 2 turns longer. That will get you in the ball park. Have fun It is easily
Cheers _PTEngineering
Puting the P-1 on top of the OEM bars definately help in taking the guessing out of trying to align the bars even. I think my installation is much like your 03 CLK, pretty much straight forward, as I do not have self leveling hydraulic system in the rear.
#33
Just have a quick question. I have a stock 2006 C230 sport and do not intend on changing wheel sizes or lowering. I was wondering if it is worth installing the kit to help with rear tire wear and handling?
Thanks
Thanks
#34
Super Member
hex rod
I bet it would help with the handling regardless of lowering springs or not. The hex rod looks much rigid then the thin metal piece that came with the car.
#36
Shipping was quick on mine as well! Wish the bars were painted black like the original 'finished' pic but it's ok. Plastidipped the hex bar this weekend. Looks great and adds a little more protection against corrosion...
#38
Super Member
PM ghost...he'll ship one to your door step
#40
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Richmond, CA
Posts: 3,250
Received 255 Likes
on
233 Posts
2001 E320 Wagon, 2006 LBZ Silverado, 2007 E63 (sold), 2001 E55 (sold)
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w202-27/
#43
Super Member
Here's the part number for the front chamber bolt from the dealer, if you want a pair for the front. Part# 2103300018. Get the diagram from the dealer. That will show you how to replace the original with the longer bolt.
#44
Member
got those , but am still .06 degree off!!!! although i am not confident of the alignment shops techs!!!
#47
SPONSOR
K-MAC not only manufacture Rear but Front also.
Ex-factory there is only front and rear Toe adjustment for virtually all Mercedes 1968 to current models (and same with Chrysler Crossfire and 300C etc).
We saw the need and were the very first company to manufacture precisely adjustable front Camber and Caster bushing kits with twice the adjustment range of the basic one setting offset bolts.
Then for the rear, K-MAC Camber adjuster kits, which have the advantage (unlike upper adjustable arms/DIY kits) of not moving the top of the tire outwards when adjusting to resolve premature inner edge wear - which is an important factor to prevent tires scuffing outer fenders if wide profile tires/rims fitted.
Another advantage with K-MAC rear kits - unlike spherical bearings used in these upper arm kits, there is no harsh metal to metal contact and 20 years of the proven design - there's certainly no squeaks.
Also all K-MAC rear Camber adjusters include extra Toe adjustment which is essential to compensate accurately for the new Camber facility!
The K-MAC patented design front kits replace the 4 main suspension bushes - the unique 2 axis/self aligning design also doubles the load bearing area thereby increasing wear life and also steering and braking response.
Similar design is used for the 4 main rear K-MAC bushings.
Result is precise single wrench front and rear (ongoing) adjustment to return vehicle to factory specs to improve traction, compensate for steering pull, costly inner edge tire wear through altering height, fitting wide profile tires, load carrying, curb-knock damage and/or the advantage of being able to alter specs, improve lap times on track days and with genuine K-MAC you also do not need to purchase special fitting tools.
Product confidence with K-MAC is further assured by our total, ongoing commitment to motor racing - all out 10/10ths competition testing keeps K-MAC products always at the forefront re cutting edge technology, proven strength and durability.
#48
Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Madison
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
16V190, E55, Porsches several
Yep....thanks.
I am now familiar with the SPC and KMAC mods and know that the KMAC replaces both camber and toe bushings on each side.
I will admit that my attraction to the P-1 and MB-arts approach of the adjustable arm was the simplicity of the install. Are there significant downsides to this approach that I am not aware of?
In my case this would not be a DIY job.
The challenge for Benz owners is not a new one.
Stealerships generally are not interested in non-OEM mods (especially MB dealers).......and that leaves local tuners, who generally do not work that much on MB.
For me.....this is the wife's E55 which has always had ROW euro suspension and she sits a bit lower than normal North American settings. Of course the typical Benz dealer has the alignment system and ratios that are directly related to car height. In my case they say this data tells them it is completely normal for the rear camber to be as much as 2.6 negative on this car.
I'm OK with that but only if they agree to buy me new tires every year.
I have yet to be successful getting agreement on that one.
I am now familiar with the SPC and KMAC mods and know that the KMAC replaces both camber and toe bushings on each side.
I will admit that my attraction to the P-1 and MB-arts approach of the adjustable arm was the simplicity of the install. Are there significant downsides to this approach that I am not aware of?
In my case this would not be a DIY job.
The challenge for Benz owners is not a new one.
Stealerships generally are not interested in non-OEM mods (especially MB dealers).......and that leaves local tuners, who generally do not work that much on MB.
For me.....this is the wife's E55 which has always had ROW euro suspension and she sits a bit lower than normal North American settings. Of course the typical Benz dealer has the alignment system and ratios that are directly related to car height. In my case they say this data tells them it is completely normal for the rear camber to be as much as 2.6 negative on this car.
I'm OK with that but only if they agree to buy me new tires every year.
I have yet to be successful getting agreement on that one.
Last edited by GreggT; 01-14-2014 at 09:14 AM.
#49
Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Madison
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
16V190, E55, Porsches several
Last bump on this.
And.....a quick update.
P-1 apparently does not market this product anymore (only wholesale and not responding to my calls/emails) and MB-arts the same thing.
So.... I'll assume the only solution is bolt/sleeve/cam approach for the rear.....the KMAC or SPC and finding a local tuner willing to try that install as well as alignment.
And.....a quick update.
P-1 apparently does not market this product anymore (only wholesale and not responding to my calls/emails) and MB-arts the same thing.
So.... I'll assume the only solution is bolt/sleeve/cam approach for the rear.....the KMAC or SPC and finding a local tuner willing to try that install as well as alignment.