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3.5 in carbon fiber intake with AEM filter

Old Nov 2, 2023 | 12:59 PM
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doubt you are lean, m156 engines only make 10whp from secondary car removal. So I am sure maybe 113s would see 5whp.

cut a home in your airbox? Do you have an e430? Or 320? All stock 112/113 engines have a 74mm throttle body. Just go to my intake build page and buy those parts. It’s cheap. Less than $300

my car has a 74mm TB custom bored out to 78mm, Also look at the pic , i meant cut a hole in the car and i have an e430 m113, that picture is a picture of the hole underneath the airbox and I’m wondering if I can just cut that to make it a little bigger so a 3 1/2 inch cold air tube can be pushed down through there?? what do u think ?


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Old Nov 8, 2023 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
Just installed this today
3.5in 90° silicone elbow
3.5in 3in silicone coupler
12in 3.5 carbon tube
45° 3.5 in carbon tube
went with a aem Brute force. 9inch long
It also has the gutted elbow to the throttle body from Speed43
Hopefully will get it on the dyno this weekend.
Also going to make a heat shield this weekend.




so i went with this filter , the temperature outside was 62° and my IAT were 70 degrees , the temperature does rise quickly when you’re at idle but once you get moving it cools down very very quickly back down to 70°F, i’ve come to the conclusion that IATs don’t really matter very much. What matters is getting more air into the motor , it’s a massive increase in power especially while moving down the highway, kinda feels like a small amount of boost almost like you’re being hit from behind by another vehicle and pushed. from my experience, it feels like about 15 hp or more. So even with increased IAT, it’s still a massive increase over the stock box with a k&n filter in it, I may fab off a heat shield for it as well, and the gold tape works excellent, after an hour of driving stop and go the tape was cool to the touch.

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Old Nov 8, 2023 | 10:52 AM
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Looks nice,,

prefer if you can put U-shape alloy shield, to avoid damn heat comes from Exh. manifold

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Old Nov 8, 2023 | 11:52 AM
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so i went with this filter , the temperature outside was 62° and my IAT were 70 degrees , the temperature does rise quickly when you’re at idle but once you get moving it cools down very very quickly back down to 70°F, i’ve come to the conclusion that IATs don’t really matter very much. What matters is getting more air into the motor , it’s a massive increase in power especially while moving down the highway, kinda feels like a small amount of boost almost like you’re being hit from behind by another vehicle and pushed. from my experience, it feels like about 15 hp or more. So even with increased IAT, it’s still a massive increase over the stock box with a k&n filter in it, I may fab off a heat shield for it as well, and the gold tape works excellent, after an hour of driving stop and go the tape was cool to the touch.
It is great to always have the lowest IATs for sure. But most N.A. cars don’t care about the IAT
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Old Nov 8, 2023 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
It is great to always have the lowest IATs for sure. But most N.A. cars don’t care about the IAT

i’m pretty sure the filter being used makes the world of difference too
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Old Nov 10, 2023 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
It is great to always have the lowest IATs for sure. But most N.A. cars don’t care about the IAT

so I built a heat shield for the filter but it seems to have made the IATs go up higher, so I removed it in the temps drop back down while I was driving
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Old Dec 5, 2023 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
Just installed this today
3.5in 90° silicone elbow
3.5in 3in silicone coupler
12in 3.5 carbon tube
45° 3.5 in carbon tube
went with a aem Brute force. 9inch long
It also has the gutted elbow to the throttle body from Speed43
Hopefully will get it on the dyno this weekend.
Also going to make a heat shield this weekend.


is there gain in removing those baffles in the boot that clips to the throttle body?
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Old Dec 14, 2023 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
doubt you are lean, m156 engines only make 10whp from secondary car removal. So I am sure maybe 113s would see 5whp.

cut a home in your airbox? Do you have an e430? Or 320? All stock 112/113 engines have a 74mm throttle body. Just go to my intake build page and buy those parts. It’s cheap. Less than $300

so I connected up a wideband O2 today, and I am at 13.5 wide open throttle
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
Just installed this today
3.5in 90° silicone elbow
3.5in 3in silicone coupler
12in 3.5 carbon tube
45° 3.5 in carbon tube
went with a aem Brute force. 9inch long
It also has the gutted elbow to the throttle body from Speed43
Hopefully will get it on the dyno this weekend.
Also going to make a heat shield this weekend.


is 13.5 AFR too lean at WOT?
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Old Mar 26, 2024 | 11:53 AM
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threw the stock box back on today and performance was more consistent and car ran smoother. I’m convinced cold temps may actually be better!!
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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutentight11
threw the stock box back on today and performance was more consistent and car ran smoother. I’m convinced cold temps may actually be better!!

but hp is down compared to the cold air intake
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Old May 25, 2024 | 10:20 AM
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This is my first post in 14 years. Between 2007 and 2008 I drove a 1998 E300 TD. Sadly, one day I couldn’t stop in time and ran into a F250 that pulled out in front of me. Therefore, I bought a 2002 E55 AMG mainly for the larger brake discs in the front. I drove that car until 2010 when I was forced to sell. I have missed that E55 intensely and finally found a pre-facelift 1999 E55 for sale (best of both worlds from my previous cars). I just had it inspected and am excitedly awaiting the results 🤞

I think it’s great that people are experimenting with other options besides the factory air box. For me, though, it’s not so much about increasing airflow. It’s more about air temperature and, most of all, getting rid of all that nasty plastic.

I really like being able to see the aluminum intake manifold as well.

The carbon fiber pipe solutions are nice. However, they seem to everytime run right over the top of the exhaust manifold 🥵 I’m wondering . . . Has anyone tried a simple mushroom air filter on a short and straight piece of 3.5 inch pipe attached directly to the MAF?.

Then, one could cut and remove a short section of the rubber seal on the firewall right behind the MAF and in front of the windshield wiper. That way one would conceivably get a bit of cowl induction 😎

Greetings from the Sonoran desert.
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Old May 26, 2024 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Two Meters
The carbon fiber pipe solutions are nice. However, they seem to everytime run right over the top of the exhaust manifold 🥵 I’m wondering . . . Has anyone tried a simple mushroom air filter on a short and straight piece of 3.5 inch pipe attached directly to the MAF?.

Then, one could cut and remove a short section of the rubber seal on the firewall right behind the MAF and in front of the windshield wiper. That way one would conceivably get a bit of cowl induction 😎

Greetings from the Sonoran desert.
The problem would be to get one filter that could flow and filter enough. I like your line of thinking and if you could find the space pulling air off the cowl where it is a natural low-pressure area and could produce more power. There is someone that modifies the stock housing to make it capable of flowing more air. I think that's the best solution I've seen. With that said, if you want more power, the best bet is to go to an E55 with a supercharger or 211 E55. It's tough to make the effort worthwhile on these engines without going to forced induction and then it becomes a cost and reliability issue. You can easily exceed the value of the car with just the components and excluding labor to make the E55 really fast/quick. I recommend enjoying the car for what it is.
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutentight11
threw the stock box back on today and performance was more consistent and car ran smoother. I’m convinced cold temps may actually be better!!
i wanted to copy your setup now i dont know,do you still run standard box? What was intake temps with the oem airbox vs aftermarket
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Brabusw215
i wanted to copy your setup now i dont know,do you still run standard box? What was intake temps with the oem airbox vs aftermarket

I thought I had all that info on the thread. I remember IATs always being ambient with the intake, also it made 18 or 20whp. I did this 4 years ago, I don’t remember much.
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
I thought I had all that info on the thread. I remember IATs always being ambient with the intake, also it made 18 or 20whp. I did this 4 years ago, I don’t remember much.
I might have missed the original airbox temp comparison, I think I'll give it a go
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Brabusw215
i wanted to copy your setup now i dont know,do you still run standard box? What was intake temps with the oem airbox vs aftermarket
the temps were pretty close even with the aftermarket set up. The aftermarket would get hotter at idle but cool down almost instantly once the vehicle got moving up to speed.
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 07:11 PM
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I might have missed the original airbox temp comparison, I think I'll give it a go




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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutentight11
the temps were pretty close even with the aftermarket set up. The aftermarket would get hotter at idle but cool down almost instantly once the vehicle got moving up to speed.
I shall make one for my w215 I'll start with a single intake then maybe a y pipe and use the factory ducting was there much intake noise that's mainly what I'm after along with power
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 08:11 PM
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I shall make one for my w215 I'll start with a single intake then maybe a y pipe and use the factory ducting was there much intake noise that's mainly what I'm after along with power
can sell u mine for $65
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 08:13 PM
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New pic why my heat shield made from the exhaust heat shielding from a w211 I cut into shape, also riveted a heat shield products, flexible heat shield to it. Exhaust side of the shield will get to 160 to 190°, while the air filter side is 130ish

Also my new AFR filter
make it like this, with the ducting and heat shield. I had like a 3rd version after this with a 6in air filter and a velocity stack
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can sell u mine for $65
it's alright I'm in the uk and I'm gonna make one with carbon fibre
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Old Feb 18, 2025 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by eurochargedw210
make it like this, with the ducting and heat shield. I had like a 3rd version after this with a 6in air filter and a velocity stack
heat shield made my temps go up a lot
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make it like this, with the ducting and heat shield. I had like a 3rd version after this with a 6in air filter and a velocity stack
Originally Posted by Gutentight11
heat shield made my temps go up a lot
might have made a heat catcher, manifold should be wrapped and blocked off but that's alot of work ill probably not do
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Hey eurochargedw210, I have your car now and would like to go with Speed43 box to get the stock look even if i lose bit of power

What size elbow do I need to install the stock MAF to the 80 mm TB?

Would I need to tune the car again not knowing how much air the speed43 box is moving?

Can someone else help me if eurocharged is busy?

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