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Old 09-30-2019, 04:47 PM
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Carbureted M113

I know this engine has nothing to do with a W210 AMG but I chose this section as I thought you guys may have more interest than any of the other sections. This build should be like no other and that's why I chose to do it. More of an old school hotrodding of the mighty M113 instead of the everyday tune and bolt-ons. My intended modifications include:
Holley 750 DP on a custom sheet metal fabricated intake manifold
AMG reground cams
AEM ignition to run the OEM coils
722.649 trans and OFGear controls

The engine is the 113.967 from a CLS500 though I have several 113's around here. My intentions are to see what I can do with this engine to make swappable with just about any vehicle without depending on the factory Bosch ME module, DAS and harness mess that comes with it. I already have the transmission and OF controller and am just about finished with the manifold. The cams just arrived at the grinder and I am waiting for him to profile and give recommendations on the grind. I will say these cams are not my first choice and I may still go with a set of Catcams that are the specs I know I want. I also may up installing a Holley Sniper setup to make for a more modern driver friendly fuel system.




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I really like how the magnesium polishes leaving a nice patina.

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This is amazing. I always thought these would be great hot rod motors. Only challenge I see is the variable flap that changes intake length. That will be tough to tune around, and maintain the characteristics of the motor that make it so great.
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Originally Posted by 6spd
This is amazing. I always thought these would be great hot rod motors. Only challenge I see is the variable flap that changes intake length. That will be tough to tune around, and maintain the characteristics of the motor that make it so great.
The variable intake runner manifold is gone. That manifold helped to flatten the power curve but that's about it. There will be even more opportunities for tuning with the setup I am trying to achieve.

I will be able to control base ignition timing, timing advance curve, air/fuel ratio, etc. same as a tuner would but with even more flexibility. Throttle response will be greatly improved.

I agree these are great for old school hotrodding just like the LS and coyote engines, but with some originality and hopefully surprised looks when popping the hood. Thanks for the comment.
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Yea I compare the m113 to the Chevy LS motors all the time. In terms of simplicity and and durability. I'm too young to pretend to be familiar with any type of carberated setup. Aren't they obsolete to normal fuel injection? I know the goal is customization and mercedes loves to make that impossible. But why not use the AEM FIC 8? I've contemplated a turbo setup, and that allows you to retain stock control units but with custom mapping. Its piggy back but still good value. If you google Max Hughes turbo e320 hes a pioneer and genius on mercs.
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Cams are in. Stock profile cam on the right and lumpy on the left. I will just say I stole a profile from Esslinger on this one.

Block cleaned and about ready to start reassembly. I am not touching the bottom end to see what can be done with a cheap stock 5.0l bottom end. If this goes well I plan to build a 55.

Much more duration on these cams than even the AMG's.
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Who did your cams? Or maybe a better question is, how do I find a shop who is able to do this kind of work?
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Who did your cams? Or maybe a better question is, how do I find a shop who is able to do this kind of work?
Not sure who did those but i have used Delta cam in the past for regrinds.

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