2005 Kleemann k3
04-02-2005, 10:02 PM
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Actually. isn't 493 * .83 (17% loss) = 409.19 hp? On a bad day, that'll be below 400.
469 * .83 = 389.27 -- So if you take the numbers on paper, you're pretty far below 400.
Am I not understanding what you are saying?
469 * .83 = 389.27 -- So if you take the numbers on paper, you're pretty far below 400.
Am I not understanding what you are saying?
04-02-2005, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gianster
Thanks med. I have 444 hp at the crank. Has any one here done the k3 mods ? If so could you please share dyno results. I don't want to seem rude but i have read every theory known to man. Everyone wants to post thoughts but i have not heard from someone that actually had the mods done. I keep asking and asking. People respond but not people that actually had had the mods done. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT HAD K3 DONE AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE DYNO RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome to the board.
If you do a quick search you will see dyno charts for both K2 & K3 mods.
04-02-2005, 10:59 PM
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I guess he's telling you they have absolutely no quality control at all???
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If you've been around motors or cars at all you would know that's a ridiculous statement.
Originally Posted by DJe55
Find out what he does for AMG, I bet it has nothing to do with building motors.
04-03-2005, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by medici78
I think you guys missed the post where the owner stated that it put out 444hp AT THE CRANK.
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04-03-2005, 08:20 AM
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Put your trust in Cory and Brandon. They know what they're talking about
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04-03-2005, 11:47 AM
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Wow,
That's awesome. 619 hp? That has to be up there in the "best possible scenerio" for a k3 mod. I have to apologize to everyone here about my angry posts last night. I was drinking beer and watching my basketball teams lose. Anyway, I'll be honest I don't know too much about cars. All I know is that I wanted to make my e55 even more of a bad *** so I sent it to Kleemanns. I spoke to Corey and he said that the car put up low baseline numbers, 444HP. I don't know if it means hp from the crank, rear wheel, or fly wheel. He said that he hopes it is low because the car only has 200 miles on it and that it has not been broken in yet. After the k3 mods it posted 547 hp. He could tell I was a little disappointed so, just like any smart business man would say, He said I should see 600-610hp in about 2000 miles. Not that I don't trust him, I have heard nothing but good things about him. But if it came from amg low, there is nothing he can do about it. Any way, I just posted here to see if anyone else here had similar situations and to get opinions on if I will ever see 600-610 hp?
Thank You Very Much,
Gianster
That's awesome. 619 hp? That has to be up there in the "best possible scenerio" for a k3 mod. I have to apologize to everyone here about my angry posts last night. I was drinking beer and watching my basketball teams lose. Anyway, I'll be honest I don't know too much about cars. All I know is that I wanted to make my e55 even more of a bad *** so I sent it to Kleemanns. I spoke to Corey and he said that the car put up low baseline numbers, 444HP. I don't know if it means hp from the crank, rear wheel, or fly wheel. He said that he hopes it is low because the car only has 200 miles on it and that it has not been broken in yet. After the k3 mods it posted 547 hp. He could tell I was a little disappointed so, just like any smart business man would say, He said I should see 600-610hp in about 2000 miles. Not that I don't trust him, I have heard nothing but good things about him. But if it came from amg low, there is nothing he can do about it. Any way, I just posted here to see if anyone else here had similar situations and to get opinions on if I will ever see 600-610 hp?
Thank You Very Much,
Gianster
04-03-2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Are you seeing something I don't see because nowhere in the beginning of this thread did he post 444 at the crank.IMPOSSIBLE for a K3 car. That would be less than stck 463hp flywheel. He's got to mean 444whp or he's missunderstanding what he was told..444whp is over 500hp at the crank!Or something is seriously wrng.
04-04-2005, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by medici78
Re-read the posts. He had said the BASELINE was 444hp at the crank. Well below MB advertised figures.
Originally Posted by gianster
Hello all,
I am new to this board. I just purchased a 2005 e55amg, shipped it to Corey w/Kleemann and did a stage 3 upgrade. I did not know about the break in period you're supposed to do. I shipped it with only 200 miles on it and Corey just informed me that the baseline dino read only 444 hp and the stage 3 read 547 hp. He said the hp will go up between 600-610hp with about 2000 miles on it. For all you experienced users, Did I make a mistake in doing mods that early? I spoke to my mb dealership about the break in period and he said not to worry. It is only for earlier models. The 2005 is refined and as long as you stay out of the red zone you should be fine. Should I see 600hp in the future? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Gianster
I am new to this board. I just purchased a 2005 e55amg, shipped it to Corey w/Kleemann and did a stage 3 upgrade. I did not know about the break in period you're supposed to do. I shipped it with only 200 miles on it and Corey just informed me that the baseline dino read only 444 hp and the stage 3 read 547 hp. He said the hp will go up between 600-610hp with about 2000 miles on it. For all you experienced users, Did I make a mistake in doing mods that early? I spoke to my mb dealership about the break in period and he said not to worry. It is only for earlier models. The 2005 is refined and as long as you stay out of the red zone you should be fine. Should I see 600hp in the future? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Gianster
04-04-2005, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gianster
Thanks med. I have 444 hp at the crank. Has any one here done the k3 mods ? If so could you please share dyno results. I don't want to seem rude but i have read every theory known to man. Everyone wants to post thoughts but i have not heard from someone that actually had the mods done. I keep asking and asking. People respond but not people that actually had had the mods done. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT HAD K3 DONE AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE DYNO RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plus, it has been stated numerous times on this forum that Kleemann uses flywheel horsepower numbers. I just find it odd that they say the dyno "corrects" for drivetrain loss, so why not just show rwhp numbers anyway?
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04-04-2005, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by medici78
Re-read the posts. He had said the BASELINE was 444hp at the crank. Well below MB advertised figures.
Here's first post!
Originally Posted by gianster
Hello all,
I am new to this board. I just purchased a 2005 e55amg, shipped it to Corey w/Kleemann and did a stage 3 upgrade. I did not know about the break in period you're supposed to do. I shipped it with only 200 miles on it and Corey just informed me that the baseline dino read only 444 hp and the stage 3 read 547 hp. He said the hp will go up between 600-610hp with about 2000 miles on it. For all you experienced users, Did I make a mistake in doing mods that early? I spoke to my mb dealership about the break in period and he said not to worry. It is only for earlier models. The 2005 is refined and as long as you stay out of the red zone you should be fine. Should I see 600hp in the future? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Gianster
I am new to this board. I just purchased a 2005 e55amg, shipped it to Corey w/Kleemann and did a stage 3 upgrade. I did not know about the break in period you're supposed to do. I shipped it with only 200 miles on it and Corey just informed me that the baseline dino read only 444 hp and the stage 3 read 547 hp. He said the hp will go up between 600-610hp with about 2000 miles on it. For all you experienced users, Did I make a mistake in doing mods that early? I spoke to my mb dealership about the break in period and he said not to worry. It is only for earlier models. The 2005 is refined and as long as you stay out of the red zone you should be fine. Should I see 600hp in the future? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Gianster
Originally Posted by medici78
Attention: coolcarlskiC43
Plus, it has been stated numerous times on this forum that Kleemann uses flywheel horsepower numbers.
Plus, it has been stated numerous times on this forum that Kleemann uses flywheel horsepower numbers.
Originally Posted by medici78
I just find it odd that they say the dyno "corrects" for drivetrain loss, so why not just show rwhp numbers anyway?
Originally Posted by gianster
Wow,
That's awesome. 619 hp? That has to be up there in the "best possible scenerio" for a k3 mod. I have to apologize to everyone here about my angry posts last night. I was drinking beer and watching my basketball teams lose. Anyway, I'll be honest I don't know too much about cars.
That's awesome. 619 hp? That has to be up there in the "best possible scenerio" for a k3 mod. I have to apologize to everyone here about my angry posts last night. I was drinking beer and watching my basketball teams lose. Anyway, I'll be honest I don't know too much about cars.
So now who knows
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04-04-2005, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Here's first post! Attention:Medici78 ,In his first post he does not state that.That's why I reposted it to show you.He did not say any where in that post or this thread 444 crank HP was my point, but you seemed to have missed that.No big deal..However yea ,that is weird.
The guy seems like he's not even sure what they were telling him even after that post.He says he was drinking.
So now who knows If it was rwhp, that would be awesome. But with so much "disappointment" in the owner and tuner's eyes, I'm assuming it was crank horsepower. Its interesting how people misinterpret the numbers. As far as I'm concerned, all I care about is rwhp. I've seen too many "500hp" big blocks turn out 300-350 rwhp to believe hype.
