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Old 08-04-2005 | 10:54 PM
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If and when it comes out, I will be ready to place my order.
Old 08-05-2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
z06 7 liter is only 505 hp, and Benz 6.3 is 510 so its more powerfull.
I strongly believe GM is seriously underrating the Z06 engine. I know several guys dynoing 410-420rwhp on basic 5.7 liter LS1's with JUST head and cam package which is roughly 500hp at the crank when using the typical drivetrain loss estimates.
Old 08-05-2005 | 02:23 AM
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Is it just me, or is there a real technology aversion here? Not knocking the application of a turbo to a good engine, but I really want to wait and see what a great N/A engine and transmission combo can do. =)
Old 08-05-2005 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
z06 7 liter is only 505 hp, and Benz 6.3 is 510 so its more powerfull.
nope the new z06 is 505hp and the new amg is 510 ps

the z05 is 512ps

now that iv searched. iv found a few differnt hp rating for the new vette.

500
505
512

and 475 ftlb(657nm)

so maybe the amg is the strongest but damn that new zo6 weighs only 2900 lbs

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Old 08-05-2005 | 04:01 AM
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A C63 ?? Holy cow ... that will run low 4's (if not sub 4) in 0-60 for sure ... kinda makes we wonder what they will have in store for the E63 ... cannot believe they will wack that amount of power in the C and the same for the E ... the E will be slower for sure ... think C63 is OTT ... blimey where will it end ... that would mean they would need to use 6.0TT for the E - think not -that will be for the S & CL 's.

Personally think we see the E63 (6.3 N/A) in the W211 facelift unit for 2007, and new W212 with same motor. C may get detuned 6.3 - but OMG that will be one quick car...

Poor trannies ... they going to get roasted....!!!!

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Old 08-05-2005 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch77
nope the new z06 is 505hp and the new amg is 510 ps

the z05 is 512ps

now that iv searched. iv found a few differnt hp rating for the new vette.

500
505
512

and 475 ftlb(657nm)

I read an article recently about SAE HP ratings. GM is one of the few automakers who is doing SAE certified HP, which is a more accurate method of rating their engines. Apparently, when they tested the new LS7 (in the Z06), they found that it made 505hp, not the 500hp that GM originally claimed.

Another interesting tidbit regarding HP ratings was in the latest MT, where they tested the Dodge Magnum SRT-8 against the uber-wagon, the E55T.

Originally Posted by Motor Trend
An SRT engineer showed us one of the earliest known dyno runs (July 1966) ever conducted on the original 426 street hemi. The run was made under the SAE J606 standard, which didn't include any accessory drives and allowed race fuel, headers and just about anything else which might produce a big gross horsepower number. That number? How does 467.3hp at 6000 rpm (and still climbing) sound? It sounds like the Hemi was underrated. Max torque on the same run was 458.0 at 4000rpm.

Rather than attempt to build an original Hemi and test it under the current, more restrictive SAE standard to see how their 21st century version stacked up, the SRT guys dyno tested the new motor using the old J606 rules. Drum roll, please: The result? 467hp at 6000rpm. How's that for history repeating itself?


Originally Posted by skratch77
so maybe the amg is the strongest but damn that new zo6 weighs only 2900 lbs

I don't think you can compare the new Z06 to anything made by Mercedes-Benz AMG, except to say that each car is the pinnacle of performance in their respective categories.
Old 08-05-2005 | 12:12 PM
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Old 08-05-2005 | 08:11 PM
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Talking AMG will not be second to BMW

Based on past history I emphatically believe AMG will not roll over to the stressed out V10 from BMW. "Radically new 6.3 Liter V8", "Bi-Turbo", whatever their next move is, it will upstage the Bangle lovers beloved M cars. I am convinced enough to put a cash deposit down on AMG's next move!
Old 08-05-2005 | 08:16 PM
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The most powerful NA V8 engine is the one in the Saleen S7
Old 08-05-2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch77

so maybe the amg is the strongest but damn that new zo6 weighs only 2900 lbs
nope it weights 3100


might get one.
Old 08-05-2005 | 09:27 PM
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The most powerful NA V8 engine is the one in the Saleen S7
is it a production car?
Old 08-05-2005 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ1133
The most powerful NA V8 engine is the one in the Saleen S7
I think Saleen S7 has a V8 Bi-Turbo engine.
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/saleen_s7.asp
Old 08-05-2005 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ntamp
I think Saleen S7 has a V8 Bi-Turbo engine.
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/saleen_s7.asp
It was originally a NA V-8, just this year they did a few odds and ends on the S7 including the TT System. I think it had 575hp...
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
is it a production car?
It's not mass produced if that's what your asking, but they have a production line.
Old 08-05-2005 | 10:48 PM
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