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Old 09-15-2005, 12:28 AM
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0-1000m time for E55?

Can anyone tell me whats 0-1000m fro E55 time is? thanks!
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the car would have to be delimited to do it properly, but it should be in the 20's @ 250-280 range.
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how exactly in 20s lol i just curious... ML63 is 23 seconds fast... intresting to know how faster is E55.... if i remember corectly E55 is 21... but im not sure thats why i ask.
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
Can anyone tell me whats 0-1000m fro E55 time is? thanks!
back in 2003 motor did a test
e55
0-100km/h (62mph) = 4.81s
1/4mi = 12.94 @ 180.1km/h (111.9mph)
0-1000m = 23.26 @ 232.8km/h (144.7mph)

sl55
0-100km/h (62mph) = 4.90s
1/4mi = 12.90 @ 179.7km/h (111.7mph)
0-1000m = 23.32 @ 229.0km/h (142.3mph)
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now explain me this... how the hell ML63 does it in 23 seconds too? I just dont get it... The data is from AMG site....

I dont get it.
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2003 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by BoBcanada
now explain me this... how the hell ML63 does it in 23 seconds too? I just dont get it... The data is from AMG site....

I dont get it.
The E55 is 4,100 - 4,200 lbs? Can't remember the exact weight..

The ML63 is estimated at 2,016 - 2116KG = approx 4,500 - 4,600 lbs.

469/4200 = 0.11hp/lb
510/4600 = 0.11hp/lb

They have virtually the same power/weight ratio. That's how.

P.S-> We know the E55 is understated and power output is higher than 469hp.. I am assuming the ML63 is understated also.
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So ML63 should be as fast as e55?
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So ML63 should be as fast as e55?
Don't know about that... E55 has a much better coefficient of drag so it should have a better top end pull.

On paper it looks like the ML63 will have the same power as the E55, but I would still say the E55 is the top runner.

But, if you need an SUV vehicle, that is going to be one hell of a rocket! I am seriously considering buying one for my wife!!
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Well im getting bored with my ML350 and now im thinking either to get a second car to play with.... like used M3 or maybe STI, Or wait till spring and trade in for ML63 or used S55... But i love SUVs they big and comfy I drove MLs from 1998! 98 ml320, 00 ml430, 02 ml55, and now 05 ml350 maybe i should continue my tradition hehe?
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2003 E55 AMG
Originally Posted by BoBcanada
Well im getting bored with my ML350 and now im thinking either to get a second car to play with.... like used M3 or maybe STI, Or wait till spring and trade in for ML63 or used S55... But i love SUVs they big and comfy I drove MLs from 1998! 98 ml320, 00 ml430, 02 ml55, and now 05 ml350 maybe i should continue my tradition hehe?
Or you could wait until I get to 700hp with my E55 and then you can buy it.
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BoBcanada - The 63 motor, although it puts out less torque than the 55 Motor, what torque it does have is being efficiently multiplied by the gearing that AMG ended up with during the development of this package. Also the 63 motor has more HP than the 55 Motor and more HP will perform better on a long run like 1000m than more torque will. As far as around town driving goes more torque is the way to go (point and squirt ability). Also, when it comes to Mods., the 55 Motor will be far more cost effective to deal with than the 63 Motor will, and the 55 Motor's modded Torque/HP level will be way beyond the capability of a modded N/A 63 Motor.

Now, when MB does the 63 Turbo Motor, thats a whole different story, and I might add a very expensive story (+$ 50.000.00). - Bob
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Originally Posted by vrus
The E55 is 4,100 - 4,200 lbs? Can't remember the exact weight..

The ML63 is estimated at 2,016 - 2116KG = approx 4,500 - 4,600 lbs.

469/4200 = 0.11hp/lb
510/4600 = 0.11hp/lb

They have virtually the same power/weight ratio. That's how.

P.S-> We know the E55 is understated and power output is higher than 469hp.. I am assuming the ML63 is understated also.
isn't the ML AWD and there fore has significantly greater parasitic draivetrain loss?
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Originally Posted by DRCrowder
isn't the ML AWD and there fore has significantly greater parasitic draivetrain loss?
might be... but its also 60/40 awd i belive...dunno if it makes a difference
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Originally Posted by vrus


Or you could wait until I get to 700hp with my E55 and then you can buy it.
You're going to sell your car after you get to 700hp ?
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
You're going to sell your car after you get to 700hp ?
caz at 700 hp daily driving you get into trouble
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caz at 700 hp daily driving you get into trouble
No, he won't get into trouble. It will be 700 hp for the first 5 min and back to 350 hp for the rest of the day due to heat soak (sorry Victor LOL). What a lovely family cruiser...
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back in 2003 motor did a test
e55
0-100km/h (62mph) = 4.81s
1/4mi = 12.94 @ 180.1km/h (111.9mph)
0-1000m = 23.26 @ 232.8km/h (144.7mph)

sl55
0-100km/h (62mph) = 4.90s
1/4mi = 12.90 @ 179.7km/h (111.7mph)
0-1000m = 23.32 @ 229.0km/h (142.3mph)
First off, these are the worst test numbers I've seen for either one of these cars??? I don't know but, everything I have shows the E a half a second quicker in the 1/4. That test car must have been a pig! Am I looking at this wrong? No way the ML is as quick as the E55 or SL55, NO WAY!

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The ML could be significantly geared differently?

Plus, I don't think hard numbers for the ML63 will be out anytime soon. Way too hard to compare it to anything.
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No, he won't get into trouble. It will be 700 hp for the first 5 min and back to 350 hp for the rest of the day due to heat soak (sorry Victor LOL). What a lovely family cruiser...

hahahha.. Good one!!
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One more question do the S55 etc 493 hp motors have same heat soak problems too or they get lil beter cooling?
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Originally Posted by DJe55
First off, these are the worst test numbers I've seen for either one of these cars??? I don't know but, everything I have shows the E a half a second quicker in the 1/4. That test car must have been a pig! Am I looking at this wrong? No way the ML is as quick as the E55 or SL55, NO WAY!

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i Have seen worse!

The test were done at different continents mate so it does not mean the ML is faster!!!!!!!!!!!

No test you ever see represents the true numbers, becasue there are none. They always depend on the day and conditions of the car, track weather etc etc etc etc.

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