What did the M5 do at the track today???
10-30-2005, 07:59 PM
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What did the M5 do at the track today???
Hey Derek, just curious how it went with the M5 today at the strip. Don't make us wait to long. Let us know as soon as you can.
10-31-2005, 07:38 AM
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Yesterday was not the M5's day at the track. Without LC being active during the "early" miles, there wasn't any launching going on. 60' times were very slow. The car trapped decently well (116mph) and with LC, I think it will be a 12.4-12.6 quarter mile car just like the E. Without the LC, it honestly felt like I was taking off in second gear.
Because this seems to be the first head to head track meeting of the E and the M, I am not going to print any times. The E was significantly faster, mostly due Amen's E being insanely fast for a stock E (fastest I've ever seen) and due to my inabilty to launch the car.
It pulls so hard at the high speeds that it needs to run the half mile. The M felt good but I need more seattime and LC needs to be active in order to make a proper performance comparison. Sorry I don't have more. I'm not wimping out, I just want to respect the "friendly" rivalry.
Because this seems to be the first head to head track meeting of the E and the M, I am not going to print any times. The E was significantly faster, mostly due Amen's E being insanely fast for a stock E (fastest I've ever seen) and due to my inabilty to launch the car.
It pulls so hard at the high speeds that it needs to run the half mile. The M felt good but I need more seattime and LC needs to be active in order to make a proper performance comparison. Sorry I don't have more. I'm not wimping out, I just want to respect the "friendly" rivalry.
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10-31-2005, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Yesterday was not the M5's day at the track. Without LC being active during the "early" miles, there wasn't any launching going on. 60' times were very slow. The car trapped decently well (116mph) and with LC, I think it will be a 12.4-12.6 quarter mile car just like the E. Without the LC, it honestly felt like I was taking off in second gear.
Because this seems to be the first head to head track meeting of the E and the M, I am not going to print any times. The E was significantly faster, mostly due Amen's E being insanely fast for a stock E (fastest I've ever seen) and due to my inabilty to launch the car.
It pulls so hard at the high speeds that it needs to run the half mile. The M felt good but I need more seattime and LC needs to be active in order to make a proper performance comparison. Sorry I don't have more. I'm not wimping out, I just want to respect the "friendly" rivalry.
Because this seems to be the first head to head track meeting of the E and the M, I am not going to print any times. The E was significantly faster, mostly due Amen's E being insanely fast for a stock E (fastest I've ever seen) and due to my inabilty to launch the car.
It pulls so hard at the high speeds that it needs to run the half mile. The M felt good but I need more seattime and LC needs to be active in order to make a proper performance comparison. Sorry I don't have more. I'm not wimping out, I just want to respect the "friendly" rivalry.
Derek - with all caveat's aside (nobody expected the M to be at its fastest) can you tell us what the 60 foot times were? Did the car make it into the 12's?
How fast did Amen's car run? I still have aspirations of being the first bone stock (including Conti's) E55 to run 11's. Is my dream shattered?
10-31-2005, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Nope, not going to do it, wouldn't be prudent.
As for Amen, I'll let him cover that but I think your dream is shattered.
As for Amen, I'll let him cover that but I think your dream is shattered.
I am sure once you are able to use launch control and launch at 4k the 60 foot times will improve. I am sure if the car could hook up off the line it would put down some very impressive numbers, but I don't think anyone makes a drag radial that fits the m5.
Will you be modding the M5 as well?
10-31-2005, 06:35 PM
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10-31-2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by enzom
Derek - with all caveat's aside (nobody expected the M to be at its fastest) can you tell us what the 60 foot times were? Did the car make it into the 12's?
How fast did Amen's car run? I still have aspirations of being the first bone stock (including Conti's) E55 to run 11's. Is my dream shattered?
How fast did Amen's car run? I still have aspirations of being the first bone stock (including Conti's) E55 to run 11's. Is my dream shattered?
blew dust on my 1/4 mile timing eye tripping it at a 10.995. or so. I'll scan in my time slip so you can see. 
10-31-2005, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Yesterday was not the M5's day at the track. Without LC being active during the "early" miles, there wasn't any launching going on. 60' times were very slow. The car trapped decently well (116mph) and with LC, I think it will be a 12.4-12.6 quarter mile car just like the E. Without the LC, it honestly felt like I was taking off in second gear.
Because this seems to be the first head to head track meeting of the E and the M, I am not going to print any times. The E was significantly faster, mostly due Amen's E being insanely fast for a stock E (fastest I've ever seen) and due to my inabilty to launch the car.
It pulls so hard at the high speeds that it needs to run the half mile. The M felt good but I need more seattime and LC needs to be active in order to make a proper performance comparison. Sorry I don't have more. I'm not wimping out, I just want to respect the "friendly" rivalry.
Because this seems to be the first head to head track meeting of the E and the M, I am not going to print any times. The E was significantly faster, mostly due Amen's E being insanely fast for a stock E (fastest I've ever seen) and due to my inabilty to launch the car.
It pulls so hard at the high speeds that it needs to run the half mile. The M felt good but I need more seattime and LC needs to be active in order to make a proper performance comparison. Sorry I don't have more. I'm not wimping out, I just want to respect the "friendly" rivalry.
Lets not forget what you said just a few days ago--you will take M5 to the track , drive it like you stole it and post times AND VIDEOS sunday night, now you come back with neither and all you offer is "prudency".
As promissed, you could have posted times and videos and simply stated your reservations and describe circumstances. In my opinion that would be "prudent" as well, considering that there some people here that were waiting for it night and day after you promised all of that . Go back and reread your posts. No one asked you, you voluntered to post results sunday night. Does not look "prudent" to me.
Good Night, and Good Luck
10-31-2005, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AmenMercedesGo
Sorry, I ran a first pass of 12.08@117mph
What was your 60' time?
10-31-2005, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Belmondo
Lets not forget what you said just a few days ago--you will take M5 to the track , drive it like you stole it and post times AND VIDEOS sunday night, now you come back with neither and all you offer is "prudency".
As promissed, you could have posted times and videos and simply stated your reservations and describe circumstances. In my opinion that would be "prudent" as well, considering that there some people here that were waiting for it night and day after you promised all of that . Go back and reread your posts. No one asked you, you voluntered to post results sunday night. Does not look "prudent" to me.
Good Night, and Good Luck
As promissed, you could have posted times and videos and simply stated your reservations and describe circumstances. In my opinion that would be "prudent" as well, considering that there some people here that were waiting for it night and day after you promised all of that . Go back and reread your posts. No one asked you, you voluntered to post results sunday night. Does not look "prudent" to me.
Good Night, and Good Luck
1) Don't read my posts
2) Buy yourself an M5 and have at it
Good night and Good luck.
10-31-2005, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
If you don't like it, then I offer you two choices:
1) Don't read my posts
2) Buy yourself an M5 and have at it
Good night and Good luck.
1) Don't read my posts
2) Buy yourself an M5 and have at it
Good night and Good luck.
10-31-2005, 10:16 PM
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I looked at Amen's slip last night for his pass against Derek's 10.95, and it very well could have been a mid to high 11.9x. No mph registered, and knowing the condition of the track there, it was probably just dumb luck that a piece of garbage blew across the beams five thousandths of a second before Derek crossed. They have timing problems all the time there. Amen's E was definitely moving.
11-01-2005, 12:46 AM
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Public Action against DerekFSU:
Under Article 5, Section 2 of the MBWorld ("MBW") bylaws, you are obligated to post all times attained on your 1/4 mile runs with one 2006 BMW M5 (E60)(whether you received a timeslip or not) and must release all video and photographs (digital or celluloid) of said event. Your previous statements of the results of your M5 experiment being "not representative of the vehicle's true capabilites", although logical, carries little weight in this proceeding. You must post these results so people (trolls are people too) can point to your test results as proof positive that the new M5 is a much slower car than their Audi/Porsche/MB/Corvette/scooter. You have no authority to refuse your commitment to the MBW and society at-large. Failure to comply with these provisions will be met with harsh hissy-fits and temper tantrums.
On a serious note. I think it is commendable that you are waiting for a more representative day to release the results. I am not a fan of the new E60 styling (or any new BMW) but it is a formidable machine. The 12.4-12.6 estimate is about what I expect, theorizing it would run similar times to the similarly powered Gallardo.
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Under Article 5, Section 2 of the MBWorld ("MBW") bylaws, you are obligated to post all times attained on your 1/4 mile runs with one 2006 BMW M5 (E60)(whether you received a timeslip or not) and must release all video and photographs (digital or celluloid) of said event. Your previous statements of the results of your M5 experiment being "not representative of the vehicle's true capabilites", although logical, carries little weight in this proceeding. You must post these results so people (trolls are people too) can point to your test results as proof positive that the new M5 is a much slower car than their Audi/Porsche/MB/Corvette/scooter. You have no authority to refuse your commitment to the MBW and society at-large. Failure to comply with these provisions will be met with harsh hissy-fits and temper tantrums.
On a serious note. I think it is commendable that you are waiting for a more representative day to release the results. I am not a fan of the new E60 styling (or any new BMW) but it is a formidable machine. The 12.4-12.6 estimate is about what I expect, theorizing it would run similar times to the similarly powered Gallardo.
Regards,
Tom
11-01-2005, 03:35 AM
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What I would be very interested to see is the time slip of a non-LC run, from standstill.
For the record I actually like the M5 styling (exterior) while very different to the older unit the styling is really aggressive looking and the best of what Bangle has done - the 3, 7 & 6 rear ends look like add ons. The 5 interior (with respect) I cannot get to grips with - its just too much a departure from the old M5 which I prefer - mbe I am getting too old.
Anyhow I digress, just how how quick is this car in P500 mode, not launched?
Rgds Steve.
For the record I actually like the M5 styling (exterior) while very different to the older unit the styling is really aggressive looking and the best of what Bangle has done - the 3, 7 & 6 rear ends look like add ons. The 5 interior (with respect) I cannot get to grips with - its just too much a departure from the old M5 which I prefer - mbe I am getting too old.
Anyhow I digress, just how how quick is this car in P500 mode, not launched?
Rgds Steve.
11-01-2005, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Wow, sounds like you're really upset. I'm sorry to hear that. My plan was do to exactly what I posted. After doing a few runs, I felt that posting my track times would not do justice to the car so I chose not to. If you don't like it, then I offer you two choices:
1) Don't read my posts
2) Buy yourself an M5 and have at it
Good night and Good luck.
1) Don't read my posts
2) Buy yourself an M5 and have at it
Good night and Good luck.
11-01-2005, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AmenMercedesGo
Sorry, I ran a first pass of 12.08@117mph (10.139 1000ft). Next good run against Derek's E55 rocket, the timer failed at the 1/4 mile mark but my 1000ft time was a respectable 10.131. I think Derek like the Road Runner blew dust on my 1/4 mile timing eye tripping it at a 10.995. or so. I'll scan in my time slip so you can see.
blew dust on my 1/4 mile timing eye tripping it at a 10.995. or so. I'll scan in my time slip so you can see. Thanks, Amen - So did you break into the 11's???
11-01-2005, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Wow, sounds like you're really upset. I'm sorry to hear that. My plan was do to exactly what I posted. After doing a few runs, I felt that posting my track times would not do justice to the car so I chose not to. If you don't like it, then I offer you two choices:
1) Don't read my posts
2) Buy yourself an M5 and have at it
Good night and Good luck.
1) Don't read my posts
2) Buy yourself an M5 and have at it
Good night and Good luck.
OK , will do that, thank you, but first I have to un "tune" myself from the avalanche of "videos and timeslips" and try to get away from all the "games" that have begun.
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Mine is being delivered to me at noon in Savannah. I'll be there with the Noble running at Roebling Rd. I am then doing a drag race on Sunday. My dealer is driving it down from New York so the break-in period will be complete, almost to the mile, when I arrive at the dragstrip.
Stay tuned for videos and timeslips (Yes, the E will be there as well). Let the games begin.
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Now, this one is even easier, after all how hard is it to ignore ALL the videos that were never posted??
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Having been a BMW engineer (my division created these seals 4 years ago), I think I'm covered. Not really, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Select last night.
No really, I do appreciate the advice. Please ignore any timeslips and all videos posted Sunday night.
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Finally, absolutly no coment on the following post, it just would not be "prudent" .
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Sure...... I'll just drive it softly for the first 10,000-50,000 miles. Gimme a break. I was drivin' the E like I stole it after 400 miles and it's performance hasn't seemed to suffer.
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