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Old 11-27-2005, 12:47 AM
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This guys first run DIALED in at 12.80 expecting to run that like the first tracked M5. I am sure he was shocked when HE ran low 12's. Then on his next pass, he "re dialed" to 12.30, this guys has a family and prob not a true racer so I doubt he let off at the end! He was there to test times of the new family cruiser, not to win a trophy.

This guy ran 12.22's @ 118
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62728

As stated before, that track is not good at ALL! The 1/8th mile traps are usualy broken. Derik knows that track as well, so he says on the M5board. It is a true 2 slips, but it's no 11's!

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Originally Posted by AmenMercedesGo
Here are Derek's time slips from initial two runs w/o launch control that we did not post so as to avoid criticism since the M5 was handicapped until the computer allowed the LC to work (Remember Sleepless in Georgia Thread). His car trapped high and his 60 ft was not bad w/o LC. The previous slip above doesn't look right to me either. The car appears to pull like crazy and drops off substanially after the 1000ft mark.
I would say with the first M5 time slip in the high 12's, that beat Derik's time in his M5, then 2 more slips in the low 12's due to lower temps in FL and less humidity. I would say, for some reason, Deriks got a bit slower car, or it was just hot as a normal FL day. It could be that Derik also ran his car hard a bit early, just a thought, not flaming ya Derik, you know I am ok. 1/4 burst don't hurt as much as tracking it at the circuit. Keeping your car in high RPM's is a no..no until 3,000 say the manual. .5 tenth is NOTHING when compaired to hot and humid to cool and dry. Wait until March from the Northern M5 to run low numbers as well. No big deal, we all knew the car is nice. There are many nice fast cars besides the E55. Shifting at 7,000 rpm on Manual compaird to "D5" could also get it quicker, ya never know till these guys play and try out different settings and things. There are 6 shift speeds for Standard, and 5 for Auto, also launching in the softest transfers weight to the rear, after 2nd gear is done, going to hardest setting would shave a bit off as well making the car more rigid..Yea, it's a lot to do but, could be learned. We will have to see how they are figuring this car out in the next couple of months.


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There are many nice fast cars besides the E55.
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
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:p LOL..E55 is the ONLY CAR! or should I say only 4 door that is in the 11's stock........aaaaahhhh.....so far! I don't see the M5 going into the 11's guys. I could be wrong and I do like the M5, BUT....facts are facts, we shall see.
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anyone else notice that the two timeslips posted have folds in the paper in the same exact places. look directly to the right of the ET on both slips. looks like a photoshop job to me. could M5 owners be getting this desperate to make a good showing?
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Originally Posted by p911turbo
anyone else notice that the two timeslips posted have folds in the paper in the same exact places. look directly to the right of the ET on both slips. looks like a photoshop job to me. could M5 owners be getting this desperate to make a good showing?
i wish you were lying ! but i zoom in and i can tell it was change--trust me i have done it before ! all i have to say is this person is good ! -_-
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One of the timeslips is altered / photoshoped. There are way too many similarities for them to be real different slips that weren't doctored.
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Also note that the car number changed from 7010 to 1010. You're assigned a number at tech and it stays that way all day - I've never ever seen it change. Good call, Ricky This oughta add a little fuel to the fire! Where's Fikse? He oughta pull that time from the database.
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Originally Posted by AmenMercedesGo
Here are Derek's time slips from initial two runs w/o launch control that we did not post so as to avoid criticism since the M5 was handicapped until the computer allowed the LC to work (Remember Sleepless in Georgia Thread). His car trapped high and his 60 ft was not bad w/o LC. The previous slip above doesn't look right to me either. The car appears to pull like crazy and drops off substanially after the 1000ft mark.

Good call. I went back and looked at some of my timeslips from my C5 and found the following:





So if you compare that to his timeslip, I ran a 9.55 1000' time and an 11.30 1/4, where he ran a 9.92 1000' and a 12.32. Looking at all the #s on his slip, it just doesn't add up... that and the creases in the paper, makes it suspect.
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The first slip that this guy submitted was not an M5. At a 101mph 1/8 mile time that car had the potential to trap @130+. This is a run where I trapped @ 122.54. Look at my 1/8 mile time (94.1mph). Confused and amused.

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heh, crazy.... looking into this now..... I think both slips were messed with....
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The first slip that this guy submitted was not an M5. At a 101mph 1/8 mile time that car had the potential to trap @130+. This is a run where I trapped @ 122.54. Look at my 1/8 mile time (94.1mph). Confused and amused.

Exactly
Thanks to the person who found the original #'s you posted, I though I was going Nukin Futz.
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Originally Posted by Rock
The first slip that this guy submitted was not an M5. At a 101mph 1/8 mile time that car had the potential to trap @130+. This is a run where I trapped @ 122.54. Look at my 1/8 mile time (94.1mph). Confused and amused.

True, here are some other passes from my C5. I ran 101+ in the 1/8 on both of these passes...

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This detective work is making me thirsty. Good job you guys.
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definitely fake:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/128040-fake-m5-slips.html


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What's interesting is that a 12.2 @ 118 is where I suspected the M5 would wind up long before it hit our shores. But with a 2.2+ 60' time, something just doesn't seem right. Especially after what we have been reading from owners. If this really is a photoshop job, this is just sad.
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Originally Posted by jordan
This guys first run DIALED in at 12.80 expecting to run that like the first tracked M5. I am sure he was shocked when HE ran low 12's. Then on his next pass, he "re dialed" to 12.30, this guys has a family and prob not a true racer so I doubt he let off at the end! He was there to test times of the new family cruiser, not to win a trophy.

This guy ran 12.22's @ 118
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62728

As stated before, that track is not good at ALL! The 1/8th mile traps are usualy broken. Derik knows that track as well, so he says on the M5board. It is a true 2 slips, but it's no 11's!

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He ran 12.22 in e55, not the m5

As he stated:
"For reference: in E55 Renntech ECU and Pulley,same strip of I-94,temp 35F vs 17F today,also at 5 am and using the same G-Timer,
had 0-30 in 1.78s
0-100 in 9.12 s
1/4mile in 12.22s at 118 mph"
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal


One of the timeslips is altered / photoshoped. There are way too many similarities for them to be real different slips that weren't doctored.

WOW.

They are exactly the same pictures, every bit of them are the same, the paper folds, edges etc.

The numbers have been altered.

How desperate a person can get to put some fake numbers about m5 out there? We know there are people with fake races of m3, m5, m6 but this is like over the top.
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OK, time for Rock to rename this thread into :

"This M5 1/4time looks FAKE "
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OK, time for Rock to rename this thread into :

"This M5 1/4time looks FAKE "
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Originally Posted by p911turbo
anyone else notice that the two timeslips posted have folds in the paper in the same exact places. look directly to the right of the ET on both slips. looks like a photoshop job to me. could M5 owners be getting this desperate to make a good showing?



Friends, lets pause for a second and agknowlage this persons POST.
If it were not for him you would still be seriously disscussing FAKE slip.
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Friends, lets pause for a second and agknowlage this persons POST.
If it were not for him you would still be seriously disscussing FAKE slip.
Let's drink to him.
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Let's drink to him.

Done! A glass of vino!
If you ever choose to go to the track and bring back REAL M5 slip we'll drink to you too!
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Let's drink to him.
I just had 4, cheers
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can someone kill this thread...or change the title to like"

THIS M5 1/4 looks fake...

and let's all move on to the PINOT NOIR...
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