W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Tony007- For the CLS55 you forgot to list the AMG Nurburgring sports suspension
The CLS doesn't get the Nurburgring recalibration as it is being built with a new calibration, and doesn't 'need' the Nurburgring recalibration.

ThemisN- Are we absolutely sure the 030 we are getting in the states includes the LSD and this info didnt come from europe?
Absolutely positive, my notes on the 030 Package are confirmed/updated at least once a week. Two US customers took delivery of their CLS55's last week and one member of this board took his in to have the rear differential fluid serviced last week -- all three had it confirmed that their cars had the LSD. The MBUSA website is not renowned for its accuracy....

And if you do a thread search you should find that the 030 Package has been discussed in detail in more than a few threads in the last 2 or 3 weeks.....
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ClayJ
The CLS doesn't get the Nurburgring recalibration as it is being built with a new calibration, and doesn't 'need' the Nurburgring recalibration.


Absolutely positive, my notes on the 030 Package are confirmed/updated at least once a week. Two US customers took delivery of their CLS55's last week and one member of this board took his in to have the rear differential fluid serviced last week -- all three had it confirmed that their cars had the LSD. The MBUSA website is not renowned for its accuracy....

And if you do a thread search you should find that the 030 Package has been discussed in detail in more than a few threads in the last 2 or 3 weeks.....
Well the window sticker on my car says "Special AMG Front Control Arms"... Are you suggesting that Mercedes is not marketing this as a Nurburgring suspension?

Either way you should probably update your list to include this item..

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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That is correct. On the CLS55 prior to production (it being a fairly recent model, LOL) they changed the suspension geometry and the ABC/Airmatic - whatever it is that they recalibrated to arrive at the new 'Nurburgring Suspension'. So technically the CLS doesn't need, doesn't have, and won't be marketed (or shouldn't be anyway) as having the 'Nurburgring Suspension' in the 030 Package.

The Nurburgring Suspension in the 030 Package on the other cars is a recalibration of either ABC or Airmatic -- I forget which, but it must be the ABC....

Since I am very aware of the changes incorporated in the suspension of the CLS55, and of the fact that it does not need and will not get the 'Nurburgring Suspension' in the 030 Package...I think that I'll leave my folder notes as is...but thank you for allowing me to spell this out in no uncertain terms on this thread for all those who will follow.

Just another one of the many reasons that the forums are a good source of information for entusiasts.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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an LSD question:

I'm kind of surprised that this is only available as part of a $10k option package in a car this expensive (sticker on my e55: $92k).

Without the LSD, does a stock e55 then have single-rear-wheel drive, or is the stock diff. a positraction 2-wheel drive rear end?

I'm confused; I'd think a car with this much power would push it out to both wheels. I've never burned rubber or anything (and don't intend to) so I'm asking y'all here.

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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vixapphire
an LSD question:

I'm kind of surprised that this is only available as part of a $10k option package in a car this expensive (sticker on my e55: $92k).

Without the LSD, does a stock e55 then have single-rear-wheel drive, or is the stock diff. a positraction 2-wheel drive rear end?

I'm confused; I'd think a car with this much power would push it out to both wheels. I've never burned rubber or anything (and don't intend to) so I'm asking y'all here.

thanks,
vic
LSD and positraction are two different names for the same animal. The stock CLS55 contains an open diferential (what you referred to as single-rear-wheel drive). With the open diff, MB relies on traction control via the brakes to transfer power when tire slippage is detected. While this will work to a certain extent, it can be pretty hard on the brakes.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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intresting how they putting 6.3 engine into e,cls,slk,clk, but not into SL55 and they keep the kompressed engine, so i think that way SL55 should be a bit faster then 6.3 guys?
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
intresting how they putting 6.3 engine into e,cls,slk,clk, but not into SL55 and they keep the kompressed engine, so i think that way SL55 should be a bit faster then 6.3 guys?
This will be interesting to see what happens Bob. Hmm perhaps an SL is in our future??????
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
intresting how they putting 6.3 engine into e,cls,slk,clk, but not into SL55 and they keep the kompressed engine, so i think that way SL55 should be a bit faster then 6.3 guys?
I don't believe the CLS will be seeing the 6.3L, and the AMG E has always been a little faster than the SL - even with less HP and should continue to be w/ the new N/A engine v. the tweaked SC'ed 55.

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 02:14 AM
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Hmmm, i always thought that SL55 was a bit faster.... intresting
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by IanSL55
I don't believe the CLS will be seeing the 6.3L, and the AMG E has always been a little faster than the SL - even with less HP and should continue to be w/ the new N/A engine v. the tweaked SC'ed 55.

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The CLS will get the 6.3 according to our friends in canda whose orders were changed from CLS55 to CLS63.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:09 AM
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Hmmm, i always thought that SL55 was a bit faster.... intresting
Splitting hairs really it's --> <-- that close. E55 has weight and drag on its side.

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