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Old 01-23-2006, 05:36 PM
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That is an Awesome run.. Is the car being shifted Manually or just leaving it in drive????
I think most AMG owners here would leave it in drive for the best results.
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What's the ballpark figure of modding the car to perform like that? Not including the car.

I know Kleemann can get up to around ~$16-17,000 right?
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Holy crap. And that reaction times contributes to it, nice.
Reaction time has nothing to do with it and it's not that good. Good reaction times start with a 0.
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Reaction time has nothing to do with it and it's not that good. Good reaction times start with a 0.

.........yep! you don't start getting timed until your car crosses the green light. So the driver next to you can leave and finish ahead you but you can get a better quatermile time than him/her.

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Amazing...do you think the SL600 could get into the 10s?
definetly! I'm going to tweek some things and take it out again this weekend.
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this is pretty surreal, numbers are simply unbelievable...
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Reaction time has nothing to do with it and it's not that good. Good reaction times start with a 0.
Thanks, Mr. Force.

It depends on the track and the setup, but generally on TnT days, that is the case. It's a .500 tree, with .500 seconds being a perfect reaction time. Anything .499 or quicker and you've redlighted, .501 or slower and you're sitting on the line too long. Some tracks list .500 as .000 and any negative numbers are redlights.

There are also .500 and .400 pro trees, where all the yellows light together and then the green lights immediately after. If you've never raced on one, you can see them on all the pro drag racing TV coverage. Very difficult if you're used to standard .500 trees

For me, on TnT days, I concentrate on my launches and usually end up sitting at the line for a full second or longer so that I can get my launch RPM right before dropping the hammer. Someone who doesn't spend a lot of time at the track may have a quick reaction time, but different cars react differently and can take several tenths to break the beam (shallow/deep staging makes a big difference here, too).
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Thanks, Mr. Force.

It depends on the track and the setup, but generally on TnT days, that is the case. It's a .500 tree, with .500 seconds being a perfect reaction time. Anything .499 or quicker and you've redlighted, .501 or slower and you're sitting on the line too long. Some tracks list .500 as .000 and any negative numbers are redlights.

There are also .500 and .400 pro trees, where all the yellows light together and then the green lights immediately after. If you've never raced on one, you can see them on all the pro drag racing TV coverage. Very difficult if you're used to standard .500 trees

For me, on TnT days, I concentrate on my launches and usually end up sitting at the line for a full second or longer so that I can get my launch RPM right before dropping the hammer. Someone who doesn't spend a lot of time at the track may have a quick reaction time, but different cars react differently and can take several tenths to break the beam (shallow/deep staging makes a big difference here, too).
Right on!!!

For test and tune the RT means absolutely nothing, it only comes into play in NHRA sanctioned competitions or organized bracket racing competitions.

In other words, if you are going to the track for a "run what you brung" don't worry at all about your RT, only you ET and trap speed.
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.........yep! you don't start getting timed until your car crosses the green light. So the driver next to you can leave and finish ahead you but you can get a better quatermile time than him/her.

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Whoa there, now you're confusing me. I thought reaction times always mattered and the reaction timer starts on the last light away from the green? You're saying you can sit there even when the green light has come on for a few seconds before taking off?

Or maybe I'm thinking pro tree or something. Educate me. :p

edit: there's an answer, thanks wayne.

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Originally Posted by WayneE
Thanks, Mr. Force.

It depends on the track and the setup, but generally on TnT days, that is the case. It's a .500 tree, with .500 seconds being a perfect reaction time. Anything .499 or quicker and you've redlighted, .501 or slower and you're sitting on the line too long. Some tracks list .500 as .000 and any negative numbers are redlights.

There are also .500 and .400 pro trees, where all the yellows light together and then the green lights immediately after. If you've never raced on one, you can see them on all the pro drag racing TV coverage. Very difficult if you're used to standard .500 trees

For me, on TnT days, I concentrate on my launches and usually end up sitting at the line for a full second or longer so that I can get my launch RPM right before dropping the hammer. Someone who doesn't spend a lot of time at the track may have a quick reaction time, but different cars react differently and can take several tenths to break the beam (shallow/deep staging makes a big difference here, too).
Thanks Don Garlett

I'll have to admit that I've yet to run into a pro tree at a Test n Tune. You must do it a bit more serious than others.

I've only done New England, Atco, Valdosta, Orlando, No Problem, and Gainesville. At those few tracks, RT is listed from .000 with that being the perfect light. I was simply sharing from experience that the light does not change the ET and a .1 is not a fast reaction time at the strip. Do you differ? If so, then break out the wallet and let's bracket.
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Do you differ? If so, then break out the wallet and let's bracket.
I'll dial 15.2 and you can dial 10.95. Let's go. :p
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Originally Posted by newton22
I'll dial 15.2 and you can dial 10.95. Let's go. :p
Uhhh, no more NOS= no more 10's. I should dial something closer to 11.8.
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Originally Posted by ///CLKfiftyfive
Amazing...do you think the SL600 could get into the 10s?
I believe it can. With a RennTech ECU upgrade and straight pipe exhaust, not to mention a lil nitrous, it should easily crack the 10's.
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I believe it can. With a RennTech ECU upgrade and straight pipe exhaust, not to mention a lil nitrous, it should easily crack the 10's.
I ran 11.25 with no NOS and Eisenmann exhaust. I know I can do it, I'll be trying again this weekend!
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Thanks Don Garlett

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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
I'll have to admit that I've yet to run into a pro tree at a Test n Tune. You must do it a bit more serious than others.

I belong to a national, Internet based, car group that has a race in the MidWest each year. I organize the drag race portion of our event (we road race, drag race, autox, car show and 0-100-0 at the 3 day event) and our quick 8 drag races run on a pro-tree.


Originally Posted by DerekFSU
I was simply sharing from experience that the light does not change the ET and a .1 is not a fast reaction time at the strip. Do you differ? If so, then break out the wallet and let's bracket.

No argument there. If you're not running in the low .5XX range (.550 or quicker), you'll end up on the trailer
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I ran 11.25 with no NOS and Eisenmann exhaust. I know I can do it, I'll be trying again this weekend!

Good luck Renn - what a GREAT way to spend the weekend!!

BTW - you get out to Barrett-Jackson ever?? I'm stuck watching it on TV from this coast - but I could watch for Daaaaaays....
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