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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Question Best Data Logger for E55

Does anybody have a preferred data logger for Mercedes autos ?.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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for wideband a/f info....

www.innovatemotorsports.com
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Albert,

I am using the autotap program. Its works great in the car while driving but I had a heck of a time datalogging on the dyno for some reason with the DYNO MODE turned on.

I received an update to the hardware & software and have yet to try the new one yet.

Overall, for the money, Autotap gets my vote.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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The autotap website says for GM, Ford, Honda etc ... but not MB - I assume it works fine though ?

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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Albert,

I am using the autotap program. Its works great in the car while driving but I had a heck of a time datalogging on the dyno for some reason with the DYNO MODE turned on.

I received an update to the hardware & software and have yet to try the new one yet.

Overall, for the money, Autotap gets my vote.
Vic what sensors are available to log ?
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rflow306
Vic what sensors are available to log ?
You can log everything that goes through the bus... boost, IAT, speed, RPM, coolant temp, etc, etc, etc.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vrus
You can log everything that goes through the bus... boost, IAT, speed, RPM, coolant temp, etc, etc, etc.
Does it display knock sensor retard and ignition timing ?.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Does it display knock sensor retard and ignition timing ?.
Timing is there for sure.. I am almost positive Knock sensor output is there also.. I can confirm tonight when I get home.
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Originally Posted by vrus
Timing is there for sure.. I am almost positive Knock sensor output is there also.. I can confirm tonight when I get home.
Vic,

Did you have a chance to see if the autotap checks for knock retard as well?

I may be going the autotap route to help put the fine honing on my Kleemann K2 tune.

Thanks in advance
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by vrus
Albert,

I am using the autotap program. Its works great in the car while driving but I had a heck of a time datalogging on the dyno for some reason with the DYNO MODE turned on.

I received an update to the hardware & software and have yet to try the new one yet.

Overall, for the money, Autotap gets my vote.
What model of Autotap are you using? Do you have to buy alot of extras to make it owrk or did it come with all of the needed cords and such.I looked at the web site and it says it will work on any 96 or newer car,so im assuming theres no model specific that I have to ask for?
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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I'm using this scan tool Data logger.
I works well enough, has a Windoze, Palm and Pocket PC OS.
Also comes with a dyno module.

It was 229 on a group buy, regularly 249.

They have a value comparo between competitive products somewhere on their website.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
I'm using this scan tool Data logger.
I works well enough, has a Windoze, Palm and Pocket PC OS.
Also comes with a dyno module.

It was 229 on a group buy, regularly 249.

They have a value comparo between competitive products somewhere on their website.
That's what i have also. The Autoenginuity it has worked flawless so far. They are releasing the BMW, porsche and Mercedes dedicated software in that order. Which would allow almost dealer level functions according to them.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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rflow, did they provide any timing for the MB update?

Have you ever measured IAT?
The one time that I did, it ran from 122 degrees F at 0 mph to 230 degrees at 127 mph. After that it was range bound between the high 170's to low 200's.

Probably not perfect for performance.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
rflow, did they provide any timing for the MB update?
No, they just said it was going to be released after the porshe update.

Have you ever measured IAT?
The one time that I did, it ran from 122 degrees F at 0 mph to 230 degrees at 127 mph. After that it was range bound between the high 170's to low 200's.

Probably not perfect for performance.
Yeah, that is something i always record. If the iat goes higher than 199 degrees it will shut the kompressor off. Those numbers seem to indicate that you have faulty inter-cooler pump. Did you feel the kompressor shutting down?.
You can take it to the dealer and complain about a loss of power to point them in the right direction.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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VRUS, what specific part #'s did you order from them? did you need any of their software upgrades?





Originally Posted by vrus
Albert,

I am using the autotap program. Its works great in the car while driving but I had a heck of a time datalogging on the dyno for some reason with the DYNO MODE turned on.

I received an update to the hardware & software and have yet to try the new one yet.

Overall, for the money, Autotap gets my vote.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Yeah, that is something i always record. If the iat goes higher than 199 degrees it will shut the kompressor off. Those numbers seem to indicate that you have faulty inter-cooler pump. Did you feel the kompressor shutting down?.
You can take it to the dealer and complain about a loss of power to point them in the right direction.
Oh yeah, it shuts down. The other night I got 1 run up to 130 before it shut down.
I haven't had time to get to the dealer.
Maybe next week.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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VRUS, what specific part #'s did you order from them? did you need any of their software upgrades?
I also would like to know.Im ready to order right now,just need to make sure Im buying the correct stuff.


rflow306,

Same goes for you,if you could give some part numbers etc.I didnt see on the web site where the Mercedes hardware was listed?

Im ready to buy one of the 2 systems today.Just want to get whatever one has the best to product to offer.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Part numbers

I've been reading this thread with great interest ... and now that I've modified my car I would like to get one of these devices as well to be able to check some critical data.

Please let me know the part number as well.

Best Regards,

Jesse
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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I decided to go with the AutoEnginuity.Best deal is from seller "AutoEnginuity" on Ebay.

Might buy the Autotap also and keep it for my other cars,atleast i'll be able to see which one I like better I guess.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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The Autotap product code is ATU which is the USB version. ATS is the same product but for SERIAL.

$199.95 is the price that is shown on the website.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Has anybody here used one of these?They say it also supports all aux. input parameters available from the Innovate Motorsports LM-1 Wide Band O2 meter.Which is agreat idea for tuning and keeping an eye on things.
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Anyone use the SpeedTracer feature from Autoengenuity - any good ? accurate ?

http://autoenginuity.com/products-speedtracer1.html
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Anyone use the SpeedTracer feature from Autoengenuity - any good ? accurate ?

http://autoenginuity.com/products-speedtracer1.html
I've tried but it seems to be a 2 person job. One to drive and one to start/stop the program at the appropriate time.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I've really only tried it once. The only thing that I didn't like was the data logger wouldn't run simultaneously with the speed tracer.

Once again, could be user error. There was an instruction manual, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't put there for me!
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You manually trigger the test, but the motion of the vehicle starts the
sampling.

Is what the sales guy responded ... which is quite neat - as long as the timer only kicks off once the vehicle starts to roll.

Confirmed cannot run ScanTool and SpeedTracer together.
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There was an instruction manual, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't put there for me!
That's right. Real men don't need no stinkin' manual.
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