CLS is cannabalizing the E55!!!!
Mercedes-Benz USA Records 12,469 New Vehicle Sales
2006-02-01 13:35 (New York)
MONTVALE, N.J., Feb. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Coming off its twelfth year of
consecutive sales increases, Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA) today reported sales of
12,469 new vehicles for January 2006, up three percent from last January.
Volume for the month was lead by the C-Class with 3,098 units, closely
followed by the E-Class with 2,465 new vehicle sales. The new generation M-
Class made the highest gains with 1,962 new vehicle sales, a 100 percent
increase over January 2005.
In 2005, Mercedes-Benz significantly enhanced its competitive presence in
the luxury light truck market with the launch of an all-new design of its
popular M-Class model line and took advantage of the opportunity to create a
new segment with the introduction of its R-Class, Grand Sports Tourer. Sales
for Mercedes vehicles in the luxury light truck segment continue to gain
momentum with a 156.6 % increase over January 2005. In 2006, the company
plans to continue to expand its presence in the luxury light truck segment
with the introduction of the GL-Class.
In February, the flagship 2007 S-Class, which has shaped the upper echelon
of the luxury market for five decades, arrives in Mercedes dealerships across
the company.
Separately, the Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned vehicle program reported
sales of 3,066 units, a 12.9 percent decrease versus the previous January.
MBUSA, headquartered in Montvale, New Jersey, is responsible for the
sales, marketing and service of all Mercedes-Benz and Maybach products in the
United States. In 2005, MBUSA achieved an all-time sales record of 224,421
new vehicles, setting the highest sales volume ever in its history and
achieving twelve consecutive years of sales growth. More information on MBUSA
and its products can be found on the Internet at http://www.mbusa.com and
http://www.maybachusa.com.
......................... ..January...January...Monthly...YTD......Yearly... ....
.....Model.................'06..........'05....... ..%......2006.........2005.......%
......E-CLASS............2,465.......2,725.....-9.5%....2,465......2,725...-9.5%
......CLS-CLASS..........901..........778.......15.8%.....90 1........778....15.8%
SOURCE Mercedes-Benz USA
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Last edited by SleeperX; Feb 5, 2006 at 07:20 AM.
2. the CLS is an upsale, so moving someone from an E to a CLS is a victory in the eyes of MB
3. the numbers you show support the CLS as an awesome move for MB, if you add the two numbers together, it shows they grew the segment and every CLS sale is an upsold E.
2. the CLS is an upsale, so moving someone from an E to a CLS is a victory in the eyes of MB
3. the numbers you show support the CLS as an awesome move for MB, if you add the two numbers together, it shows they grew the segment and every CLS sale is an upsold E.
2. Upscale my *ss! The only reason why the CLS is perceived to be upscale is because there is not CLS350 to dilute the model. It is not a CL. It is a CLS. Why do you think it is upscale because they can charge you more money for it and get away with it. Sorry I don't think it is upscale. I think it is a new model that they can rip you off for in the first few years of launch.
3. I don't agree at all. First add the numbers up and you will see that YoY the combined sales fell 3.9% to a total of 3,366 from 3,503. It is cannabalizing because customers like myself who won't buy a CLS will just go to BMW. I had a BMW and switched to MB and now they pull this sh*t. I bet you BMW won't put a coupe/sedan between the M5 and the M6. It is stupid. They should have 1 mid level sedan. Think about it. We shouldn't even be having this conversation.
2. Upscale my *ss! The only reason why the CLS is perceived to be upscale is because there is not CLS350 to dilute the model. It is not a CL. It is a CLS. Why do you think it is upscale because they can charge you more money for it and get away with it. Sorry I don't think it is upscale. I think it is a new model that they can rip you off for in the first few years of launch.
3. I don't agree at all. First add the numbers up and you will see that YoY the combined sales fell 3.9% to a total of 3,366 from 3,503. It is cannabalizing because customers like myself who won't buy a CLS will just go to BMW. I had a BMW and switched to MB and now they pull this sh*t. I bet you BMW won't put a coupe/sedan between the M5 and the M6. It is stupid. They should have 1 mid level sedan. Think about it. We shouldn't even be having this conversation.
heh and you go to BMW because the cls is offered? makes no sense. the E is still available it's not like they took anything from you.
MG
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MG
......As another member has said, profit is profit for mercedes regardless of if it comes from CLs or from the E-class. If the E-class completely stops selling but those sales are made up for by the CLS, then it won't matter. I think it is interesting how mercedes has succeeded in greating a lot of buz with CLS by simply re-packaging the E-class. Brilliant I think.
Ted
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With regard to the AMG sales of these two models, AMG produces 1250 units (or is it 1850?) of every vehicle, except the E55 which it produces 2500 per annum.
The E55 is the most popular AMG vehicle, partly because it is so multifunctional - great for carrying 4 people in absolute comfort, and even 5 in a pinch. This is not the case with the CLS - transporting 4 people for any length of time is tough on the rear passengers for sure.
In my opinion I do not see the CLS as becoming the new E. As has been said, its a new up-sell model (4 door coupe), and it has a uniqueness in the market (like it or not), but the E will continue to be the best seller.
Yes, sales of the E55 have been hurt by the M5, and by the CLS55, but even if these vehicle had not been launched you would see a similar drop in sales in the 3rd or 4th year of a vehicle's life cycle, as the exclusivity factor wears off, and especially as rumours of the new model (E63) start to circulate.
Also note that the exclusivity aspect of the E55 drops off faster as there are twice as many of them produced compared to the other AMG models.
I still believe the E55 is a kickass car, and exceptional value in my opinion. The reason I bought a CLS55 was that I ws definitely drawn to the styling (and not everyone likes it), plus I realized that there would be very few of them EVER produced pror to the CLS63 launch, and I wanted to have a fairly exclusive car with the awesome 55k motor for the next couple of years at least.
I for one at this point am not sure that the NA 63 will be for me - I do not want to wring my car into "GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL, LOSE YOUR LICENSE" territory to have fun with it - 99.9% of my driving is under 90mph and thats where I want to have my fun - and the 55k motor is very tough to beat in this area
just my $0.02
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With regard to the AMG sales of these two models, AMG produces 1250 units (or is it 1850?) of every vehicle, except the E55 which it produces 2500 per annum.
The E55 is the most popular AMG vehicle, partly because it is so multifunctional - great for carrying 4 people in absolute comfort, and even 5 in a pinch. This is not the case with the CLS - transporting 4 people for any length of time is tough on the rear passengers for sure.
In my opinion I do not see the CLS as becoming the new E. As has been said, its a new up-sell model (4 door coupe), and it has a uniqueness in the market (like it or not), but the E will continue to be the best seller.
Yes, sales of the E55 have been hurt by the M5, and by the CLS55, but even if these vehicle had not been launched you would see a similar drop in sales in the 3rd or 4th year of a vehicle's life cycle, as the exclusivity factor wears off, and especially as rumours of the new model (E63) start to circulate.
Also note that the exclusivity aspect of the E55 drops off faster as there are twice as many of them produced compared to the other AMG models.
I still believe the E55 is a kickass car, and exceptional value in my opinion. The reason I bought a CLS55 was that I ws definitely drawn to the styling (and not everyone likes it), plus I realized that there would be very few of them EVER produced pror to the CLS63 launch, and I wanted to have a fairly exclusive car with the awesome 55k motor for the next couple of years at least.
I for one at this point am not sure that the NA 63 will be for me - I do not want to wring my car into "GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL, LOSE YOUR LICENSE" territory to have fun with it - 99.9% of my driving is under 90mph and thats where I want to have my fun - and the 55k motor is very tough to beat in this area
just my $0.02
Ted
With regard to the AMG sales of these two models, AMG produces 1250 units (or is it 1850?) of every vehicle, except the E55 which it produces 2500 per annum.
The E55 is the most popular AMG vehicle, partly because it is so multifunctional - great for carrying 4 people in absolute comfort, and even 5 in a pinch. This is not the case with the CLS - transporting 4 people for any length of time is tough on the rear passengers for sure.
In my opinion I do not see the CLS as becoming the new E. As has been said, its a new up-sell model (4 door coupe), and it has a uniqueness in the market (like it or not), but the E will continue to be the best seller.
Yes, sales of the E55 have been hurt by the M5, and by the CLS55, but even if these vehicle had not been launched you would see a similar drop in sales in the 3rd or 4th year of a vehicle's life cycle, as the exclusivity factor wears off, and especially as rumours of the new model (E63) start to circulate.
Also note that the exclusivity aspect of the E55 drops off faster as there are twice as many of them produced compared to the other AMG models.
I still believe the E55 is a kickass car, and exceptional value in my opinion. The reason I bought a CLS55 was that I ws definitely drawn to the styling (and not everyone likes it), plus I realized that there would be very few of them EVER produced pror to the CLS63 launch, and I wanted to have a fairly exclusive car with the awesome 55k motor for the next couple of years at least.
I for one at this point am not sure that the NA 63 will be for me - I do not want to wring my car into "GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL, LOSE YOUR LICENSE" territory to have fun with it - 99.9% of my driving is under 90mph and thats where I want to have my fun - and the 55k motor is very tough to beat in this area
just my $0.02
The interesting difference about the two cars is in the attention they receive. I had my E55 for 18 months and seldom did anyone ever give it a 2nd glance - only those that knew the AMG badge or the E55 badge turned around and looked at it as they walked past in the parking lot. the only attention it ever got was at the Moroso drag strip when all the kids would come and ask me what I had done to my Benz after blowing awasy the Stangs and Vettes (it was stock - 12.169 best ET)
That is definitely not the case with the CLS55 - it stops people in their tracks, they turn around, call their freinds, wives girfreinds and stop and look, peer inside. Yesterday outside teh Westin Diplomat a guy literally fell over teh parking curb as he continued to walk looking at the car overhis shoulder. His wife just shook her head. And I doubt that its the AMG or CLS55 badges drawing them in, its just the overall styling. Like I said some love it others hate it.
Not saying all the attention is a good thing - I really enjoyed the ultimate sleeper approach of the E55, and I never once worried about getting keyed. But I am also enjoying the attention the CLS55 brings - its not in the same league as exotic car attention, but its still gratifying nevertheless.
Last edited by siswati; Feb 6, 2006 at 01:53 PM.

Try not to be a smart-*** when you attempt to prove your point.
Do some research and see what the expected slide was in light of the E's age, and new comp.. you can't expect to be up every year over the last when you have a cyclical sales cycle for your product.
the CLS has worked out well for MB, it took very little to design and make (RD $ far less than starting from scratch) and they are recouping that RD $ in an increased price.
If you disagree, whatever, but you sound less like an a$$hole when you don't try to be insulting about it.








