E63 V8 Vs M5 V10
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E63 V8 Vs M5 V10
Any thoughts on this I am a hard core Benz fan but the press just loves the M5 I think I have to take one for a test drive to see what all the hype is about
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not to knock on E63, but M5 will perform better for sure.
the beauty of the E55 is, supercharged w/ gobs of torque. M5 is entirely different concept, it makes more hp by high revving and better 7 speed gearing.
now the E63 forgo force induction, and going the N/A route like the M cars, its not gonna beat M5 at its own game.
its got 8 cyl while M5 has 10.
it revs at 1000rpm lower than M5.
it has 7 speed auto while M5 has 7 speed squential.
its not gonna beat the handling of m cars thats already a given.
thus imo, the E63 lost the competive edge that E55 has against the M5.
the beauty of the E55 is, supercharged w/ gobs of torque. M5 is entirely different concept, it makes more hp by high revving and better 7 speed gearing.
now the E63 forgo force induction, and going the N/A route like the M cars, its not gonna beat M5 at its own game.
its got 8 cyl while M5 has 10.
it revs at 1000rpm lower than M5.
it has 7 speed auto while M5 has 7 speed squential.
its not gonna beat the handling of m cars thats already a given.
thus imo, the E63 lost the competive edge that E55 has against the M5.
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Originally Posted by toro4me
not to knock on E63, but M5 will perform better for sure.
the beauty of the E55 is, supercharged w/ gobs of torque. M5 is entirely different concept, it makes more hp by high revving and better 7 speed gearing.
now the E63 forgo force induction, and going the N/A route like the M cars, its not gonna beat M5 at its own game.
its got 8 cyl while M5 has 10.
it revs at 1000rpm lower than M5.
it has 7 speed auto while M5 has 7 speed squential.
its not gonna beat the handling of m cars thats already a given.
thus imo, the E63 lost the competive edge that E55 has against the M5.
the beauty of the E55 is, supercharged w/ gobs of torque. M5 is entirely different concept, it makes more hp by high revving and better 7 speed gearing.
now the E63 forgo force induction, and going the N/A route like the M cars, its not gonna beat M5 at its own game.
its got 8 cyl while M5 has 10.
it revs at 1000rpm lower than M5.
it has 7 speed auto while M5 has 7 speed squential.
its not gonna beat the handling of m cars thats already a given.
thus imo, the E63 lost the competive edge that E55 has against the M5.
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Originally Posted by MB_Steve
I am not so sure about that!! The E55 is faster than the M5 up until about 130 mph or so. The E63 could be faster than the current E55 which would certainly make it faster than the M5. In my opinion, with a 7 speed transmission and 465 Ib of torque, there is no way the M5 will be quicker off the line. Maybe once the M5 reaches 100mph+ it might be able to catch up, but how could it be faster off the line? The M5 only has 383 ib of torque. No way.. I don't see it happening..
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In my quest to replace my 2003 M5 I test drove 3 times the 2006 M5. I was completely unimpressed with the SMG trans. The torque was for sh*t. I mean this car can't get out of its own way. It always feels like its searching and lurching for the next gear. Even on the upper end of the red line it did not feel that exciting. Now, I will say that it handled amazing in the twisties and the downshifting abilities (blipping the throttle) of the SMG trans is very cool indeed. But, the fact is, that everyday driving for me does not involve aggressive handling on mountain roads or a race track. If it did, the the M5 was the car to get. I think for my driving the E55 is the perfect balance of handling, useable speed and luxury.
The new E63 with its torque reduction sounds like a real letdown. Perhaps when I'm ready to hand back my 2006 E55 I will get back into an M5 but only if its then available with a manual transmission.
IMHO BMW design team has their taste in their A$$ lately. Not happy at all with the exterior rear of the 5 series in general or the idrive concepts. And the fact that the M5 jumped to 94K properly loaded with a monthly lease payment in the neighborhood of $1800 was the final straw in landing me back into a Benz showroom. I am not the least disappointed with that decision. It seems that there are a lot of M5's in showrooms and ebay that are not selling. Seems like I am not the only previous M5 owner that isn't overly impressed with the new version of the previous best sports sedan on the planet.
The new E63 with its torque reduction sounds like a real letdown. Perhaps when I'm ready to hand back my 2006 E55 I will get back into an M5 but only if its then available with a manual transmission.
IMHO BMW design team has their taste in their A$$ lately. Not happy at all with the exterior rear of the 5 series in general or the idrive concepts. And the fact that the M5 jumped to 94K properly loaded with a monthly lease payment in the neighborhood of $1800 was the final straw in landing me back into a Benz showroom. I am not the least disappointed with that decision. It seems that there are a lot of M5's in showrooms and ebay that are not selling. Seems like I am not the only previous M5 owner that isn't overly impressed with the new version of the previous best sports sedan on the planet.
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Originally Posted by AMGBENZ
Any thoughts on this I am a hard core Benz fan but the press just loves the M5 I think I have to take one for a test drive to see what all the hype is about
Once you got the car all set up it was incredible to drive, don't get me wrong, but it felt like you were working a playstation controller just to get started. I'm not a big fan of too much electronic wizardry in cars <more expensive things to break, and more often>, and I would shudder to think of the repair costs once this car's out of warranty.
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Originally Posted by Dean62
In my quest to replace my 2003 M5 I test drove 3 times the 2006 M5. I was completely unimpressed with the SMG trans. The torque was for sh*t. I mean this car can't get out of its own way. It always feels like its searching and lurching for the next gear. Even on the upper end of the red line it did not feel that exciting. Now, I will say that it handled amazing in the twisties and the downshifting abilities (blipping the throttle) of the SMG trans is very cool indeed. But, the fact is, that everyday driving for me does not involve aggressive handling on mountain roads or a race track. If it did, the the M5 was the car to get. I think for my driving the E55 is the perfect balance of handling, useable speed and luxury.
The new E63 with its torque reduction sounds like a real letdown. Perhaps when I'm ready to hand back my 2006 E55 I will get back into an M5 but only if its then available with a manual transmission.
IMHO BMW design team has their taste in their A$$ lately. Not happy at all with the exterior rear of the 5 series in general or the idrive concepts. And the fact that the M5 jumped to 94K properly loaded with a monthly lease payment in the neighborhood of $1800 was the final straw in landing me back into a Benz showroom. I am not the least disappointed with that decision. It seems that there are a lot of M5's in showrooms and ebay that are not selling. Seems like I am not the only previous M5 owner that isn't overly impressed with the new version of the previous best sports sedan on the planet.
The new E63 with its torque reduction sounds like a real letdown. Perhaps when I'm ready to hand back my 2006 E55 I will get back into an M5 but only if its then available with a manual transmission.
IMHO BMW design team has their taste in their A$$ lately. Not happy at all with the exterior rear of the 5 series in general or the idrive concepts. And the fact that the M5 jumped to 94K properly loaded with a monthly lease payment in the neighborhood of $1800 was the final straw in landing me back into a Benz showroom. I am not the least disappointed with that decision. It seems that there are a lot of M5's in showrooms and ebay that are not selling. Seems like I am not the only previous M5 owner that isn't overly impressed with the new version of the previous best sports sedan on the planet.
For the best of both worlds, keep the E55 and save up for a Porsche.
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while its great to speculate....
i would say that we should hold off declaring a winner until we get some numbers from published magazines.
However if you have a 55k motor, you have a valid argument to say that in street driving... 512lbs torque will be hard to beat.
i would say that we should hold off declaring a winner until we get some numbers from published magazines.
However if you have a 55k motor, you have a valid argument to say that in street driving... 512lbs torque will be hard to beat.
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Thanks for all the great comments Maybe I should try to steal a E55 left before they are all gone sounds like some geat deals, But the E63 might suprise all of us with it performance, this engine is purpose built and designed by AMG so it could be something special even without supercharging. I just can not see AMG going backwords with this new engine has anyone tested the E63 yet and compared it to the E55?
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Originally Posted by AMGBENZ
Thanks for all the great comments Maybe I should try to steal a E55 left before they are all gone sounds like some geat deals, But the E63 might suprise all of us with it performance, this engine is purpose built and designed by AMG so it could be something special even without supercharging. I just can not see AMG going backwords with this new engine has anyone tested the E63 yet and compared it to the E55?
e63 will sell at list.
so from bang for buck pt of view, i'd go e55.
