M5 vs CLS 55 in 1/4 Video...
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Originally Posted by AndrewAZ
Well I hate to say it he is right... In the first few drags not only was he in a sucky mode he had the car in auto mode basically the computer shifts instead of the driver. Driving an SMG car fast is a hard thing to do, its not as easy as an automatic since SMG is basically a manual with an electronic clutch and at the start off is where I find SMG having the biggest trouble. But once in S6 mode on an M3 its crazy, I think the M5 in its highest mode shifts faster than the M3 in S6 which I cant imagine.
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Originally Posted by Rock
Taz,
Are you bummed they kicked you off the M3forum? That final thread did not go well for you. I hope you fair better here. I actually think you were a very productive member.
As far as E55/CLS55 vs M5.........I have yet to see an M5 beat an E55 in the 1/4 mile. Go to dragtimes if you need proof.
PS- I suggest you do not try to sell anything here.
Are you bummed they kicked you off the M3forum? That final thread did not go well for you. I hope you fair better here. I actually think you were a very productive member.
As far as E55/CLS55 vs M5.........I have yet to see an M5 beat an E55 in the 1/4 mile. Go to dragtimes if you need proof.
PS- I suggest you do not try to sell anything here.
I can honestly care less, that forum is being modded by guys that cant mod. Every thread now has regulars bashing on other members. I was banned 3 times, i care not to visit that playground anyways. Thanks, i was one of the guys who helped out others, thats what a forum is for.
Like i said the M5 has hardly any TQ, that makes for a bad ET in a 1/4 mile. They cant launch good, but start to move after 40 or so, just look at the trap speed. Ive seen a good amount more MPH from the M5 then E55.
I dont sell anything except if it came off my car. Shady people trying to buy something gets shady deals.
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Originally Posted by AndrewAZ
Well I hate to say it he is right... In the first few drags not only was he in a sucky mode he had the car in auto mode basically the computer shifts instead of the driver. Driving an SMG car fast is a hard thing to do, its not as easy as an automatic since SMG is basically a manual with an electronic clutch and at the start off is where I find SMG having the biggest trouble. But once in S6 mode on an M3 its crazy, I think the M5 in its highest mode shifts faster than the M3 in S6 which I cant imagine.
i can't say for sure which car is faster with my butt dyno but having spent a good amount of time in the new m5, my thoughts regarding the video were the same as scm3's and i would say his post is fairly accurate.
flame on if you must.
flame on if you must.
shifting the m5 at redline in p500/s6 mode feels like something should break...including your neck!!! none of that sloppy stuff that video would have you believe. now in granny modes, the smg sucks ***...just like the video portrays.
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Originally Posted by SCM3
Its clearly obvious whats happening in the video. The first race the M5 was in one of the slowest shifting programs it has and it appeared as though traction control was on. The 2nd race looks like the traction control was set off and it was still in the slow shifting mode. 3rd race was with a faster mode and traction off. You gotta really pick the right options on the M5 for it to run its best. P500S is where its at.
The only thing you guys are right about is the lack of TQ of the M5,b/c of that its not great from a stop. But it does build speed, much like M cars. The M5 is faster then the E55/cls55 from a roll to higher speeds.
The only thing you guys are right about is the lack of TQ of the M5,b/c of that its not great from a stop. But it does build speed, much like M cars. The M5 is faster then the E55/cls55 from a roll to higher speeds.
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Taz -- your M3 looks badass! Have you ran it at the track? What does it run? Can you post your dyno plot, I would love to take a look at it.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
shifting the m5 at redline in p500/s6 mode feels like something should break...including your neck!!! none of that sloppy stuff that video would have you believe. now in granny modes, the smg sucks ***...just like the video portrays.
Anybody in North Jersey want to test it out?
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
I have an E60 M5, and I've driven an E55 many times, and I'm going to go ahead and say there's no way an M5 could beat an E55 or CLS55 for that matter in the quarter, even in P500 S6. Yeah , S6 is totally demonic and the car chirps the tires on the 1-2 shift and the 2-3 shift, but 60 ft. times bog it down and its a LOOOONG ride to the power band in first. Plus if you short shift too much or god forbid you over-rev, its game over. The sounds that the car makes in S6 are unreal, I feel like the entire clutch/flywheel assembly is going to fall out of the car every time it goes BOOM into gear, but regardless it could only possibly maybe take a 55 from a 70-80mph roll, and I have yet to try.
Anybody in North Jersey want to test it out?
Anybody in North Jersey want to test it out?
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RBC55...I told you before...RELAX !!!...Control your emotions...
Guys...
Everyrace is different...I mentioned in the 1st post that last run M5 was on the baddest mode S6 P500 with LAUNCH control ON, that is why it had a jump...
No doubt that E55 or CLS 55 is faster then M5 till 120 from the stop but after that its another story...
Here is thread on M5 board from where I found this video and the guy is saying he beat CLS 55 from a roll:
Nice title
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71140
Also just for infoprmation of those who might be intersted:
We raced ML63 vs M3 and Wow ML63 is sooo faaast...it beat M3 so badly...Cayenne Turbo doesnt stand a chance, cause M3 was faster then Cayenne before...
LATER WE planing to organise RS vs M vs AMG challenge after these weekends and hopefully WE will make some videos...
Guys...
Everyrace is different...I mentioned in the 1st post that last run M5 was on the baddest mode S6 P500 with LAUNCH control ON, that is why it had a jump...
No doubt that E55 or CLS 55 is faster then M5 till 120 from the stop but after that its another story...
Here is thread on M5 board from where I found this video and the guy is saying he beat CLS 55 from a roll:
Nice title
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71140
Also just for infoprmation of those who might be intersted:
We raced ML63 vs M3 and Wow ML63 is sooo faaast...it beat M3 so badly...Cayenne Turbo doesnt stand a chance, cause M3 was faster then Cayenne before...
LATER WE planing to organise RS vs M vs AMG challenge after these weekends and hopefully WE will make some videos...
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
but regardless it could only possibly maybe take a 55 from a 70-80mph roll, and I have yet to try.
Anybody in North Jersey want to test it out?
Anybody in North Jersey want to test it out?
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
I have an E60 M5, and I've driven an E55 many times, and I'm going to go ahead and say there's no way an M5 could beat an E55 or CLS55 for that matter in the quarter, even in P500 S6. Yeah , S6 is totally demonic and the car chirps the tires on the 1-2 shift and the 2-3 shift, but 60 ft. times bog it down and its a LOOOONG ride to the power band in first. Plus if you short shift too much or god forbid you over-rev, its game over. The sounds that the car makes in S6 are unreal, I feel like the entire clutch/flywheel assembly is going to fall out of the car every time it goes BOOM into gear, but regardless it could only possibly maybe take a 55 from a 70-80mph roll, and I have yet to try.
Anybody in North Jersey want to test it out?
Anybody in North Jersey want to test it out?
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Originally Posted by rbc55
it is hard to beat the e55 from a dead stop or 40 mph roll,but i would have to agree that from a 80 mph roll things would definately be different.the e55 at that speed and at the proper gear for that speed,isn't nearly as strong as as it is from a second gear rolling 40 mph start.with a different gearbox the car would perform much better from those speeds.
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Originally Posted by rbc55
not the one i recently ran as well as another a few months back.these races were all from a 30-40mph roll,everytime the result was the same 2 cars and actually, the one i ran up to 140 mph because the guy wouldn't give up after i had beaten him five times i had him about three cars.and my car isn't modded,except for wheels/tires and lowered.also,you never answered my question about your m3.is it turbocharged? i ask this because i haven't seen any e46 m3 that are supercharged generate numbers anywhere near what you are claiming.i do have some buddies that have e36 m3 w/single turbo putting out numbers like that though.
The same thing could be said by some M5 owners. Ive heard many stories from them about racing e55/cls55's. They claim at a 60mph roll they pull very hard, some say 5 cars.There really isnt much proof yet. Ill have seen is a couple 1/4 mile times and clearly the M5 had a launch disadvantage but makes more MPH then the E55's.
My car is supercharged.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
Taz -- your M3 looks badass! Have you ran it at the track? What does it run? Can you post your dyno plot, I would love to take a look at it.
Thanks. I ran the car at LACR (2800+feet, hot, windy and slippery) 11.9@123.
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Originally Posted by SCM3
The same thing could be said by some M5 owners. Ive heard many stories from them about racing e55/cls55's. They claim at a 60mph roll they pull very hard, some say 5 cars.There really isnt much proof yet. Ill have seen is a couple 1/4 mile times and clearly the M5 had a launch disadvantage but makes more MPH then the E55's.
My car is supercharged.
My car is supercharged.
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
You sure said it, its hard for ANYTHING to beat an E55 from a dead stop.
AndrewAZ- why'd you get smg? the manual's a much more of a driver's drive
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Originally Posted by transferred
997TT tip is walking it all day, any day from rest.
AndrewAZ- why'd you get smg? the manual's a much more of a driver's drive
AndrewAZ- why'd you get smg? the manual's a much more of a driver's drive
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All I hear is talk of these M cars. 600 horses and you barely broke 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile and we are to be impressed? Glad you see such high MPH on the Ms, we just haven't seen em. 5 car lengths? Hmmmm, no. not even at a 100mph roll. How about some honesty here? All these people with M5s and we just can't seem to hook up too often. Wonder why? I'd love to be the first to drive to Az to whoop up on Andrew, if the damn sand storms wouldn't tear up my paint. He already has my beast worked up and all this extra tallk does is make me take it out more on the ones I run into.
By the way, the 997TT comment is also off. NO CAR WALKS THE E55 FROM A DEAD STOP. NONE. Jeez. understand that. You are at a point of diminishing returns, so stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Is a 997TT faster? I dunno, but i would believe that it is. But paint the true picture, since it isn't racing against an M5.
By the way, the 997TT comment is also off. NO CAR WALKS THE E55 FROM A DEAD STOP. NONE. Jeez. understand that. You are at a point of diminishing returns, so stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Is a 997TT faster? I dunno, but i would believe that it is. But paint the true picture, since it isn't racing against an M5.
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Originally Posted by jangy
All I hear is talk of these M cars. 600 horses and you barely broke 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile and we are to be impressed? Glad you see such high MPH on the Ms, we just haven't seen em. 5 car lengths? Hmmmm, no. not even at a 100mph roll. How about some honesty here? All these people with M5s and we just can't seem to hook up too often. Wonder why? I'd love to be the first to drive to Az to whoop up on Andrew, if the damn sand storms wouldn't tear up my paint. He already has my beast worked up and all this extra tallk does is make me take it out more on the ones I run into.
By the way, the 997TT comment is also off. NO CAR WALKS THE E55 FROM A DEAD STOP. NONE. Jeez. understand that. You are at a point of diminishing returns, so stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Is a 997TT faster? I dunno, but i would believe that it is. But paint the true picture, since it isn't racing against an M5.
By the way, the 997TT comment is also off. NO CAR WALKS THE E55 FROM A DEAD STOP. NONE. Jeez. understand that. You are at a point of diminishing returns, so stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Is a 997TT faster? I dunno, but i would believe that it is. But paint the true picture, since it isn't racing against an M5.
Wow you dont know much. I ran that at a track where K2's run high 12's. Just search for LACR and you will eat your words.
B/c the M5 revs fast and has gobbles of HP. They arent good off a launch simple as that.
997tt will eat a E55 from a launch. What are you smoking tonight?
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Originally Posted by jangy
All I hear is talk of these M cars. 600 horses and you barely broke 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile and we are to be impressed? Glad you see such high MPH on the Ms, we just haven't seen em. 5 car lengths? Hmmmm, no. not even at a 100mph roll. How about some honesty here? All these people with M5s and we just can't seem to hook up too often. Wonder why? I'd love to be the first to drive to Az to whoop up on Andrew, if the damn sand storms wouldn't tear up my paint. He already has my beast worked up and all this extra tallk does is make me take it out more on the ones I run into.
By the way, the 997TT comment is also off. NO CAR WALKS THE E55 FROM A DEAD STOP. NONE. Jeez. understand that. You are at a point of diminishing returns, so stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Is a 997TT faster? I dunno, but i would believe that it is. But paint the true picture, since it isn't racing against an M5.
By the way, the 997TT comment is also off. NO CAR WALKS THE E55 FROM A DEAD STOP. NONE. Jeez. understand that. You are at a point of diminishing returns, so stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Is a 997TT faster? I dunno, but i would believe that it is. But paint the true picture, since it isn't racing against an M5.
