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Old 08-05-2006, 06:09 PM
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E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm

I was at Laguna Nigel yesterday and test drove the E63. The bottom line is I am NOT SOLD on it. Off the line is no where close to the E55 but at 80-120 it pulls lots harder than my E55. The exhaust system sounds better then the stock E55 (nice low rumble sounds). Here're some pictures:
Attached Thumbnails E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-e63.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-e63-1.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-e63-2.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-clk63.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-clk63-2.jpg  


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Attached Thumbnails E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-cls63.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-cls63-1.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-dtm-1.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-dtm-2.jpg   E63 - Cls63 - Clk63 & Dtm-dtm-3.jpg  

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Did you test drive it with the salesman? Did he let you go WOT?
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wow.. you got to take it to 120?

thanks for the awsome pics. So far most of the E63's i have seen in North America have been Black.

I can't wait to see a White one with black interior.
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that clk dtm is SWEET !
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What are the chances that the CLK63 will smoke the E63?
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Will you cancel that order now?
I dont know yet bro... Still thinking. I have other Benz(s) in the stable that I am letting go, the Black E63 didnt have all the options I wanted but the Silver one coming from Hoehn is well equipped (the way I wanted).

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What are the chances that the CLK63 will smoke the E63?
I wanted to test drive the CLK63 but it was SOLD!

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wow.. you got to take it to 120?
Yeah, the salesman was right next to me. I first asked him if I need to observe the "BREAK IN period" and he said "YES" but I told him I drive my AMG like I STOLE IT and the rest is HISTORY!

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Funny. I was there 3 days ago. Saw the same cars and drove the E63 also. All I can say is I am glad I got my E55 in March. This is what I thought the E63 would be like and I made the right choice five months ago.
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What are the chances that the CLK63 will smoke the E63?
No chance. It has almost 30 less hp and is about the same weight.
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The 6.3AMG engine are build for top end just like the M5. So of course, it wouldn't feel any much faster then the old sc engine because it got about 100 lbs of torques less plus it not even break-in yet. But the 6.3 engine will definitely pull and pass the sc engine all the way to top speed with no problem. You guys have seen the E55 vs M5, after 100 mph, the M5 just left the E55.
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The 6.3AMG engine are build for top end just like the M5. So of course, it wouldn't feel any much faster then the old sc engine because it got about 100 lbs of torques less plus it not even break-in yet. But the 6.3 engine will definitely pull and pass the sc engine all the way to top speed with no problem. You guys have seen the E55 vs M5, after 100 mph, the M5 just left the E55.
I guess that would be important to me if I constantly drive my E-class daily driver over 100mph on public roads. It would be important in track events, but that's never the car I would take. Actually what you described is one of the reasons I sold the 2006 M5 and bought a 2006 E55.

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Some aggressive cams would change the way our cars act pass 100mph.
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Did you get to meet Vadim??

Be cool to put a face with the name.
Vadim is about 5'4" and weighs in soaking wet at 125lbs.

Actually I know Vadim pretty well, I test drove a Cl65 on Thursday but the E63 was not ready yet. I know one thing, that CL is scary fast. I even had Vadim telling me to slow down once I hit 135mph!!
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Vadim is about 5'4" and weighs in soaking wet at 125lbs.

Actually I know Vadim pretty well, I test drove a Cl65 on Thursday but the E63 was not ready yet. I know one thing, that CL is scary fast. I even had Vadim telling me to slow down once I hit 135mph!!
Vadim wasnt there. He actually had a day off! Yes, the CL65 is scary fast. My neighbor has one and he wants to race me! Hahaahaaa
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Looks like the CLK got jipped again with just the dual exhaust instead of the quad exhaust.

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How much is the CLK DTM?

The CLS63 looks exactly like the CLS55 except for the badging. I can't wait to see what MB will do to the CLS come facelift time!

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[QUOTE=Germancar1]How much is the CLK DTM?

That DTM is sa-weet!
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a lot of owners coming back from the AMG challenge are loving the CLK63... apparently its a more fun car to drive, can be thrown around in turns like its nothing
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It's not for sale according to the salesman I spoke to.
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How does it handle and more importantly, how does it "feel" compared to the E55? Unless I missed it most of the quick test drives that folks have taken focuses on the acceleration differences between the two cars. I'm curious if MB took of some of the handcuffs they've had on AMG regarding this. Can't say I've read every review but most I've read about the 63 cars focus on the engine. The one article I did read in Evo had the same complaint as far as feel/handling.
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Originally Posted by cte430
How does it handle and more importantly, how does it "feel" compared to the E55? Unless I missed it most of the quick test drives that folks have taken focuses on the acceleration differences between the two cars. I'm curious if MB took of some of the handcuffs they've had on AMG regarding this. Can't say I've read every review but most I've read about the 63 cars focus on the engine. The one article I did read in Evo had the same complaint as far as feel/handling.
A bit more feedbacks on the steering response but other than that, it's the same! I like the exhaust notes better than the E55 but w/Eisenman Race will surpass that problem.
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a lot of owners coming back from the AMG challenge are loving the CLK63... apparently its a more fun car to drive, can be thrown around in turns like its nothing
While I possibly agree with the above on a tight autocross track, on the Lime Rock road course the CLS55/63 and E55's were MUCH better planted. The uneven surface was very unsettling for the CLK's and several of the guys on both days commented on the rear end dancing around. (Lime Rock surface is in bad repair).

Not sure if its the typical cabrio lack of stiffness issue, or something else at play, but it was literally unsettling to try and hang with the bogger boys. Just my $0.02

Great looking car though and pretty wheels. Good exhaust note but nothing like the new CLS63 which has an amazing sound (they did not have an E63 there so cannot comment.)
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Originally Posted by siswati
While I possibly agree with the above on a tight autocross track, on the Lime Rock road course the CLS55/63 and E55's were MUCH better planted. The uneven surface was very unsettling for the CLK's and several of the guys on both days commented on the rear end dancing around. (Lime Rock surface is in bad repair).

Not sure if its the typical cabrio lack of stiffness issue, or something else at play, but it was literally unsettling to try and hang with the bogger boys. Just my $0.02

Great looking car though and pretty wheels. Good exhaust note but nothing like the new CLS63 which has an amazing sound (they did not have an E63 there so cannot comment.)
Did you drive the CLK63 Coupe at the Challenge? Or did they only have cabs?

I have driven CLK Cabs several times over the last 5 years and have been disappointed in the torsional rigidity of the chassis. The coupes on the other hand are stiffer but still not as stiff as the E/CLS. Danny, what's your experience?

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