W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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Thumbs down E63 Front Brakes retrofit available

OK, this is not for the faint-hearted!

My dealer has confirmed prices ex Germany to convert E55 front brakes
into a wannabe E63:
2x Front calipers USD2300
1 Set Front pads USD 500 ($600 for E55, must be fewer than 8 pieces?)
2x Front Discs USD4500 ($580 for E55, so they must be made of gold)

Why would anybody bother, when we can buy 4 beautiful Evo discs for $1500-2000 and keep all the hardware intact?

That customary MBZ price gouging, if nothing else, should make the E63 pretty special...
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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No longer stock '06 E55, A3 3.2 Quattro, GLE 400d, R107 280SL, Golf Polo
You may as well go for the Brembo Gran Turismo Kit which not only is cheaper ( it has to be right ???) but would probably be better anyway....

Reason E63 discs are so much are because they are ceramic composites I think - they have to be for that price ... If they are not ceramic you are better off with Evosport or the Brembo kit.

If the conversion requires a complete swap of everything... then the Brembo kit is a no brainer.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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You must be referring to the floating disc 6 pot front and 4 pot rear ......



I have posted many photos of this caliper set before as used on the SLK55. There is nothing secret about the cost. It is simply a whole new level of hardware.

SL65 parts prices make those look cheap.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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There is nothing special about that E63 front disc - its just a floating 2 piece disk ... In my opinion its same as the Evosport unit.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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that price for the rotors can't be accurate, can it? if it is, when they wear out the 63 guys will be looking to see if 55 rotors fit! to save four large....
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rafal
OK, this is not for the faint-hearted!

My dealer has confirmed prices ex Germany to convert E55 front brakes
into a wannabe E63:
2x Front calipers USD2300
1 Set Front pads USD 500 ($600 for E55, must be fewer than 8 pieces?)
2x Front Discs USD4500 ($580 for E55, so they must be made of gold)

Why would anybody bother, when we can buy 4 beautiful Evo discs for $1500-2000 and keep all the hardware intact?

That customary MBZ price gouging, if nothing else, should make the E63 pretty special...

Are you sure that we need the calipers as well?
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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The E63 are composite, BUT not ceramic. Also, they are slotted AND cross cast. Big difference between them and the EVOs.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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is that because the evos are cross drilled vs cast?
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I see no material (excuse the pun )diff between the evosport and the E63's rotors ... both are aluminium hats with steel rotors.

The better braking performance of the E63 (BTW: can anyone confirm it is better?) may be 'coz SBC is no longer on the E63, and they have a different (mbe better?) caliper setup.

The price for those E63 rotors are rediculous ... if they were carbon ceramic composite then they would be worth it.

I still think its either Brembo for complete upgrade - or evosport if you want to keep stock calipers...
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
The E63 are composite, BUT not ceramic. Also, they are slotted AND cross cast. Big difference between them and the EVOs.
Cross cast or not, if they are the same as E55 in that regard, they will still crack around the holes.They are not worth the money, that's for sure!
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
The E63 are composite, BUT not ceramic. Also, they are slotted AND cross cast. Big difference between them and the EVOs.
Thanks Jangy, was going to mention this. Many people confuse composite and ceramic. BIG difference in both price and performance.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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I see no material (excuse the pun )diff between the evosport and the E63's rotors ... both are aluminium hats with steel rotors.

The better braking performance of the E63 (BTW: can anyone confirm it is better?) may be 'coz SBC is no longer on the E63, and they have a different (mbe better?) caliper setup.

The price for those E63 rotors are rediculous ... if they were carbon ceramic composite then they would be worth it.

I still think its either Brembo for complete upgrade - or evosport if you want to keep stock calipers...

Agreed on the materials and I do not even know enough about the E63 rotors to comment on them in comparison to the well tested EVos. However, please keep in mind that simple materials do not set the standard. HOW that material is processed is critical in its final intended purpose. I agree that bang for the buck, EVO rotors are the only option. I am looking for ultimate performance and am willing to pay. To assume that any MB product will be the same as the E55 ones is a falacy. The E55 cross drilled are nothing more than show. If I had to pick between slotted vs drilled, I'd take slotted anyday. Do they look as fancy? No. Do they perform better? Well, ummm.... Now, give me slotted AND cross cast AND proper metal treatment, and we are really talking.
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Complete brembo kit is around $5375 excl fitting which is mbe cple hundred $ ...

In UK its £2860 ex VAT. In case anyone was wondering.

Calipers come in red, silver or black.
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