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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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i don't know man i think u should let ur friend drive the 63 & u take the 550. i think it was driver error.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pterion
Huh?
I never said I was an engineer.

Wait as sec....

Ok I just went and checked and a framed degree from MIT on the wall in my office seems to indicate that I do have a degree in engineering.

But that is not the point. I just am confused as to how AMG would put out a E that is slower than the e550.

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I know MIT and I tip my hat to all the graduates.

The E-550 in question is a 4-matic which doesnt suffer from the wheelspin or crap traction. That would be good for a 0.5 second wouldnt it ?

I still dont buy into the idea that both cars are the "same" in all critical respects apart from the engine. Clearly the traction makes a huge difference according to one CLK55 owner who went with LSD and upgraded tread width. The ESP light was not as evident. Wheelspin is just not forward motion is it ?

I may be reading too much into the above self report.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by benzmodz
I know MIT and I tip my hat to all the graduates.

The E-550 in question is a 4-matic which doesnt suffer from the wheelspin or crap traction. That would be good for a 0.5 second wouldnt it ?

I still dont buy into the idea that both cars are the "same" in all critical respects apart from the engine. Clearly the traction makes a huge difference according to one CLK55 owner who went with LSD and upgraded tread width. The ESP light was not as evident. Wheelspin is just not forward motion is it ?

I may be reading too much into the above self report.
I agree the cars are not the same, and 4 wheel drive makes a big difference. My point is that it seems odd that AMG tried to make a different top of the line E class (the 550 being MB's top of the line) and failed at making it faster than MB's. Seems like a huge failure for AMG since what drives the sale of their cars is performance.

Oh well...I grow tried of this debate.
Time will tell what the 63 is capable of.

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pterion
I agree the cars are not the same, and 4 wheel drive makes a big difference. My point is that it seems odd that AMG tried to make a different top of the line E class (the 550 being MB's top of the line) and failed at making it faster than MB's. Seems like a huge failure for AMG since what drives the sale of their cars is performance.

Oh well...I grow tried of this debate.
Time will tell what the 63 is capable of.

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The V8 diesel is a very fast car. E400 IIRC. Dont know if it is a debate or a defective car .... time will tell.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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The next E63 scheduled to run will be next friday in "Fontana"
There will be a few stock E55's and the weather should be dry and warm. We will see if the NA really does pay off under hot weather conditions.
For a bit of it, Im going with what I heard and saw at AMG fest BUT they showed us a video, of an E55 and E63 draggin... I believe the E63 had an experienced driver, and the E55 did not... the E55 slipped a bit off the launch, where the 63 jumped right out in front. Once the 55 got going it paced the 63 pretty well, but it seems like given another 1/8 of track may have even over taken it. In any case they still ran about 12.7 or 12.8, I cant remember the exact time. Not being an experienced dragger I dont know how ***** to the wall they were going, but I bet both could be improved greatly.

After speaking with one of the design engineers at AMGfest, I seriously think right nows limiting factor for this car is the tranny. This engine is so much more of a beast, they even told us about a comparison they did of the E55 and E63 of Power Curves... VERY similar to each other

Dont get me wrong guys... I love the E55, Its an ICON, I think its the 2x4 MB used on everyone to say, who wants to play?

But I have a feeling this 63 motor is suppose to be more then just a stop light dragger... not specifically talking the E63 but I think this motor is something that MB is going to start hunting supercars with... Derrick I know you've run your car to its limits, how long could it stay there before it would start cooking? I would bet these 63s are designed to be able to sustain a higher average top speed for a longer period of time... Again not specific to the E63, but think about it, I think MB is gunning for the lambos and F cars of the world, this is just the first step, now they need to figure out what else they need to do, to de-limit these cars, to complete the theory

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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is there any published 'ring time for the 63?
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