getbitten

I appreciate you sparing me from another e-thug beat down. I don't know if my fragile ego could handle it...

Pantywadding aside, I will post my runs soon for fair comparison. As I said, with a 380 RWHP TRUE rating and about 100 less RWTQ, I am not out of line to proclaim the E63 to be a disappointment and MB being possibly fraudulant in their claims.

If I bought this car with a claimed 450 flywheel HP and it ran close to the E55, the color me impressed but that is not what has happened...I want my 50+ HP that they owe me.

getbitten

I agree. No MB production vehicle is a pro drag car. I just want the HP that they advertised. Period. Please someone stop waving the MB flag long enough to tell where that missing HP is?

RJC

Get real the E55 offer's alot more than just straight line acceleration... and using your logic there are many cars that will out brake, out handle and go faster on the highway than your E63 and make it's numbers blow too... so go buy one of those you jack ***.

getbitten

I love the GT.
It is my first Ford and it is an incredible creation for them.
I've owned 6 Vipers, many modifed, and this car has won me over.
It is comfortable, a/c is wonderful and the handling feels very nice though I haven't put it on a road course yet.
I'm sure I'll be picking up another Viper in the near future as it is a great car.

Mods are coming soon for it.

I thought about buying a 997TT auto for a daily drive instead of the E63 but wanted more room...I am rethinking this now.

sdsilverm3

I'll trade it in for whatever you want me to if you can hit a time lower than 12.9 with your STOCK E55 at Fontana.

You're missing the point. EVERYONE was running about 0.4 slower due to the unprepped track. To give you an idea of how ****ty it was: I lit up my street tires not even doing half throttle.

Mug

What's all the fuss about? Why all the E63 haters? I was at the track event yesterday and saw just about every run made. The E63 and the E55 are very close in 1/4 mile performance. The E63 was more then capable of smoking it's tires from launch so the argument that only the E55's are at a disadvantage because of a loss of traction is not true. Whether it's an E55 or an E63 both are fantastic cars, enjoy what you have and move on.

http://www.mrmugman.com/MBZdrags/index.html

Here's a picture of the track conditions at the starting line:

rflow306

That doesn't apply to me, when i race somebody i'm always ready, especially if there's money on the line.

The e63 times will vary less because it does not have a blower with a crappy ic design. The iat's on an e55 are worth 30 to 40 hp at the rear-wheels. That is the reason for the huge mph disparity between different e55's at different tracks. Yes this is tough luck for the e55's and is the first thing one should address before modding.

In the case of the e63 the only way it will rum 115-116 mph traps is if the ecu limit is killing 20 to 30 rwhp like it does on the new M's.

RJC

I think the GT is one of the sexiest cars on the road and always loved them since I was a kid in the 60's. My neighbor just came home with a new Viper coupe, what a mean looking car, just can't get past the engine note, sounds weird??? I've owned quite a few turbo Porsche's over the years...loved em all.

pterion

Ok, my point was that people by the 55 or the 63 for more than kjust their acceleration, so you were agreeing with me with your first comment.

As far as a car that looks as good, has the same build quality, better breaking, better handling, faster at highway speeds, etc can you post an example? (and I mean a single car, not one car that is faster, one that has better brakes..)

My point was that if you are going to judge a car on a single value (1/4 mile time) then the 55 is not really that great. If you are talking about luxury sedans that are amazing cars all around (brakes, acceleration, handling, interior, exterior, build quality, comfort etc etc) the E63 is an improvement over the already outstanding 55, and all we MAY have had to sacrifice is .2 or .3 seconds on a 1/4 mile track.

Now I am not defending MB if the car really is not making the 507 they quoted. If the car makes 450 at the flywheel then they are liers and I would be pissed. I am not sure we have "proof" of this yet...

PT

dragonAMG

Mug... thank you for sharing that pic of the strip prep or lack thereof. LOL

sdsilverm3

Awesome pics Mug! M5 =

dragonAMG

That was nuts!!! I can't believe that M5 nearly went into the wall. I'm glad he brought a change of shorts with him to the drag strip.

pterion

Great pics!

Jrocket

Great pics Mug,thanks.

RJC

I would not want to agree with anything you have to say...

cte430

Hey Josh, you absolutely should be in the 120 range. I don't have the slips anymore but I know I hit 120 last time at the strip. Poor launches were giving me 12 flat or about times.

blackbenzz

K2's on a well prepped track run in the 11's without a doubt. Obviously track conditions were horrible because all the cars were running bad times. The 996TT probably had the biggest advantage since it has 4 wheel drive and could get out the whole quick even in poor conditions. 2 more days til its our turn at the track, I will make sure its well prepped and have plenty of VHT. Stay tuned!

Dogshine

Please thank mug for standing there and reporting times live for the thread yesterday.

Jakpro1

I am waiting for a few more drag race events to pass final judgement on the 63's. Maryland is up next right? Then Hotlanta....then we should be able to get an average as to what these babies are running.

Dogshine

btw... that track looks like crap!!!!!

I couldn't see it but I sure could hear it. I wanted my man in the cls55 to get better times and I wonder if he was slower due to those 20 spoke chrome 19's or if the cls is a little slower than the e55 due to the 19's vs 18's in general.....

getbitten

I've had a 2006 Coupe First Edition and loved it.
Stock exhaust sounds like crap unless you modify it on all Vipers.
It helps to keep it from sounding like a UPS truck.

blackbenzz

Yup, we're up on monday. I know the people at the track so I will make sure it is prepped very well with plenty of VHT. We will have alot of nice cars too. Wetaher according to weather.com is a high of 86, mostly sunny, with only 20% chance of rain! ITS ON!!!!!!

GMW

Didn't that E63 on the track also have low mileage, something like 1000miles? Again, from my experience even in my Dad's new S550. The first time I drove it I thought it was much slower at take off than his previous S500 (220). I wondered how 388hp could be slower than 306hp. Then I realized I had to change it to S mode from C and it would start in 1st gear instead of 2nd. That helped a bit but it still felt slower. I was really disappointed. No or very little wheelspin from a kickdown start. Now he has about 5000 miles on it and the take off is waaay better than before! Kickdown will produce wheelspin and a real push into the chair that there is no doubt it is a much faster machine than the previous S500. This brings me to my point that these new 4 valve engines need some time to break in before they push all the power. I don't know whether it is some sort of ECU limiter or the engines are still very tight from new. BUT there was a definate improvment in acceleration in both my Dad's S550 and my C280 once we passed about 5,000 miles!!

So lets keep them E-guns holstered and not on the E63 as it is still a bit premature to judge it unless someone has one with more mileage (properly broken in with more than 5000 miles) and gets it and a fellow stock E55 without re-flash (so we also don't have any from various members) to a decent track. Only then will we get a good equal showing.

pterion

Interesting to hear your experience with the 550. I have about 1300 miles on my E63 and it might be just wishful thinking but I do feel like it has improved. The tires would not spin much at all even with ESP off and flooring it at first but now they will spin at will...

Time will tell.

PT

JLP

Derek FSU ran a 13.01...........whats the excuse for that time?? All I am saying is the E63 is pretty slow for a a car with 507 supposed horsepower and a 7 speed, my Cayenne weighs 5200 lbs and has only 450 bhp and runs 13.1-13.8 depending on heat conditions.