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How restrictive do you guys think this would be in the air intake tubes? It is cooled with CO2 in order to chill the air going into the IC. I am told that it could drop ambient temperatures as much as 30 degrees F.
06-08-2007, 11:30 PM
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Put that in-line in the liquid cooling circuit and you should see something !!!
06-30-2007, 09:26 PM
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Time to bring this thread back to life. As a refresher, I installed a CRY02 intercooler sprayer and I added a CRYO2 fuel bar into my coolant line. The fuel bar is filled with CO2 which is suppose to cool the coolant prior to entering the intercooler. Well, I tested the set up with my new data logger and the results were barely noticeable. No drop in coolant temperature and no drop in IATs. Back to the drawing board. Now I am faced with a dilemma. Do I remove the entire system or do I make a few changes.
First change, add a CRYo2 light bulb as picture below. This bulb will sit in my intake tube and is suppose to drop the air temperature as much as 50 degrees.
Second adjustment is to remove the CRYo2 fuel bar and replace it with a cryofuzion water chiller. THe cryofuzion water chiller picture below is designed to cooler water and coolant. It is a foot long and has 19 holes on the inside as picture below.
So the million dollar question is, do I remove the system or make the above mentioned adjustments.
First change, add a CRYo2 light bulb as picture below. This bulb will sit in my intake tube and is suppose to drop the air temperature as much as 50 degrees.
Second adjustment is to remove the CRYo2 fuel bar and replace it with a cryofuzion water chiller. THe cryofuzion water chiller picture below is designed to cooler water and coolant. It is a foot long and has 19 holes on the inside as picture below.
So the million dollar question is, do I remove the system or make the above mentioned adjustments.
06-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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the cryofuzion system looks like it has more potential but how long would a bottle of co2 last with that system??? i wouldn't think very long which could make it more inconvenient.
06-30-2007, 09:36 PM
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Not very long. 10-15 sprays and it is empty. Very inconvient. Not to mention that accusations that I am running NOS.
06-30-2007, 10:13 PM
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06-30-2007, 10:56 PM
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The intake air bulb is a little air restrictive but the other parts are used to cool the coolant. I dont think they would be all that restrictive but I do think/ hope it could cool the coolant right before it goes into the intercooler.
07-01-2007, 12:10 AM
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Bigger IC is the main thing needed.AMG knows this,thus the huge IC's on the SLR.
07-01-2007, 08:19 AM
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Time to bring this thread back to life. As a refresher, I installed a CRY02 intercooler sprayer and I added a CRYO2 fuel bar into my coolant line. The fuel bar is filled with CO2 which is suppose to cool the coolant prior to entering the intercooler. Well, I tested the set up with my new data logger and the results were barely noticeable. No drop in coolant temperature and no drop in IATs. Back to the drawing board. Now I am faced with a dilemma. Do I remove the entire system or do I make a few changes.
First change, add a CRYo2 light bulb as picture below. This bulb will sit in my intake tube and is suppose to drop the air temperature as much as 50 degrees.
Second adjustment is to remove the CRYo2 fuel bar and replace it with a cryofuzion water chiller. THe cryofuzion water chiller picture below is designed to cooler water and coolant. It is a foot long and has 19 holes on the inside as picture below.
So the million dollar question is, do I remove the system or make the above mentioned adjustments.
First change, add a CRYo2 light bulb as picture below. This bulb will sit in my intake tube and is suppose to drop the air temperature as much as 50 degrees.
Second adjustment is to remove the CRYo2 fuel bar and replace it with a cryofuzion water chiller. THe cryofuzion water chiller picture below is designed to cooler water and coolant. It is a foot long and has 19 holes on the inside as picture below.
So the million dollar question is, do I remove the system or make the above mentioned adjustments.
http://www.cryofuzion.com./products.htm#Interfreezer
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07-01-2007, 08:34 AM
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.............I am somewhat familiar with this. The company that makes crufuzion call it the interfreezer. It was designed as cold air intake system. This does not mean that one cannot use it to cool the coolant. Not sure how to make the hoses fit because the diameter of the cryfuzion chillers are large since they were designed for air intake tubes.
http://www.cryofuzion.com./products.htm#Interfreezer
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http://www.cryofuzion.com./products.htm#Interfreezer
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These guys actaully make an interfreezer specifically for water/coolant. It is over a foot long and about 3.5 inches in width.
http://www.cryofuzion.com./gallery.htm
Take a look at the description under the 2003 Mercury Marauder (Supercharged).
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I just bought an E55 that has the Cryocool kit installed. It has a ring that sprays the intercooler radiator and also the airbulbs in the intake tubes. I was concerned that they would be restrictive but according to Cryocool they cause less than 1% decreased airflow.
I just bought an OBD II scanner with real time data and can monitor the intake temp. I need to get the bottle filled and then I will post some data on the intake temps following a spray of the CO2. I can do a manual spray as well have the full throttle activation if the system is turned on. So, I was going to try constant load ... say 65mph on cruise, get a baseline temp and then see if you could see the temp go down after a 5 second spray... which is what you get when you go to full throttle with the system turned on.
Overall, this seems like a pretty limited setup for road use. Might be good for the strip but can't really see filling the bottle every couple weeks unless the effect was pretty fantastic.
I will keep you posted once I have some data... probably the end of this week.
Mark.
I just bought an OBD II scanner with real time data and can monitor the intake temp. I need to get the bottle filled and then I will post some data on the intake temps following a spray of the CO2. I can do a manual spray as well have the full throttle activation if the system is turned on. So, I was going to try constant load ... say 65mph on cruise, get a baseline temp and then see if you could see the temp go down after a 5 second spray... which is what you get when you go to full throttle with the system turned on.
Overall, this seems like a pretty limited setup for road use. Might be good for the strip but can't really see filling the bottle every couple weeks unless the effect was pretty fantastic.
I will keep you posted once I have some data... probably the end of this week.
Mark.
Time to bring this thread back to life. As a refresher, I installed a CRY02 intercooler sprayer and I added a CRYO2 fuel bar into my coolant line. The fuel bar is filled with CO2 which is suppose to cool the coolant prior to entering the intercooler. Well, I tested the set up with my new data logger and the results were barely noticeable. No drop in coolant temperature and no drop in IATs. Back to the drawing board. Now I am faced with a dilemma. Do I remove the entire system or do I make a few changes.
First change, add a CRYo2 light bulb as picture below. This bulb will sit in my intake tube and is suppose to drop the air temperature as much as 50 degrees.
Second adjustment is to remove the CRYo2 fuel bar and replace it with a cryofuzion water chiller. THe cryofuzion water chiller picture below is designed to cooler water and coolant. It is a foot long and has 19 holes on the inside as picture below.
So the million dollar question is, do I remove the system or make the above mentioned adjustments.
First change, add a CRYo2 light bulb as picture below. This bulb will sit in my intake tube and is suppose to drop the air temperature as much as 50 degrees.
Second adjustment is to remove the CRYo2 fuel bar and replace it with a cryofuzion water chiller. THe cryofuzion water chiller picture below is designed to cooler water and coolant. It is a foot long and has 19 holes on the inside as picture below.
So the million dollar question is, do I remove the system or make the above mentioned adjustments.
07-01-2007, 01:33 PM
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Ted,
These guys actaully make an interfreezer specifically for water/coolant. It is over a foot long and about 3.5 inches in width.
http://www.cryofuzion.com./gallery.htm
Take a look at the description under the 2003 Mercury Marauder (Supercharged).
These guys actaully make an interfreezer specifically for water/coolant. It is over a foot long and about 3.5 inches in width.
http://www.cryofuzion.com./gallery.htm
Take a look at the description under the 2003 Mercury Marauder (Supercharged).
Ted
07-01-2007, 02:11 PM
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I just bought an E55 that has the Cryocool kit installed. It has a ring that sprays the intercooler radiator and also the airbulbs in the intake tubes. I was concerned that they would be restrictive but according to Cryocool they cause less than 1% decreased airflow.
I just bought an OBD II scanner with real time data and can monitor the intake temp. I need to get the bottle filled and then I will post some data on the intake temps following a spray of the CO2. I can do a manual spray as well have the full throttle activation if the system is turned on. So, I was going to try constant load ... say 65mph on cruise, get a baseline temp and then see if you could see the temp go down after a 5 second spray... which is what you get when you go to full throttle with the system turned on.
Overall, this seems like a pretty limited setup for road use. Might be good for the strip but can't really see filling the bottle every couple weeks unless the effect was pretty fantastic.
I will keep you posted once I have some data... probably the end of this week.
Mark.
I just bought an OBD II scanner with real time data and can monitor the intake temp. I need to get the bottle filled and then I will post some data on the intake temps following a spray of the CO2. I can do a manual spray as well have the full throttle activation if the system is turned on. So, I was going to try constant load ... say 65mph on cruise, get a baseline temp and then see if you could see the temp go down after a 5 second spray... which is what you get when you go to full throttle with the system turned on.
Overall, this seems like a pretty limited setup for road use. Might be good for the strip but can't really see filling the bottle every couple weeks unless the effect was pretty fantastic.
I will keep you posted once I have some data... probably the end of this week.
Mark.
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They seem to indicate that vented CO2 is going to get into the intake and drop the power which would pretty much negate any gains from the cooling. Still, it will be interesting to see if there is any intake temp drop.
Will post some data once I have done some reproducible runs.
07-01-2007, 03:50 PM
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Interested myself to see what this system does. Found this disturbing link on the cryofuzion site: http://www.cryofuzion.com./spraybar.htm
They seem to indicate that vented CO2 is going to get into the intake and drop the power which would pretty much negate any gains from the cooling. Still, it will be interesting to see if there is any intake temp drop.
Will post some data once I have done some reproducible runs.
They seem to indicate that vented CO2 is going to get into the intake and drop the power which would pretty much negate any gains from the cooling. Still, it will be interesting to see if there is any intake temp drop.
Will post some data once I have done some reproducible runs.
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Interested myself to see what this system does. Found this disturbing link on the cryofuzion site: http://www.cryofuzion.com./spraybar.htm
They seem to indicate that vented CO2 is going to get into the intake and drop the power which would pretty much negate any gains from the cooling. Still, it will be interesting to see if there is any intake temp drop.
Will post some data once I have done some reproducible runs.
They seem to indicate that vented CO2 is going to get into the intake and drop the power which would pretty much negate any gains from the cooling. Still, it will be interesting to see if there is any intake temp drop.
Will post some data once I have done some reproducible runs.
I CANT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH. DO NOT SPRAY UNLESS YOU ARE DOING ABOUT 60MPH.
07-01-2007, 06:36 PM
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.........as far as spraying CO2, I agree totally with sleeperX. Co2 is an anti oxidant. and a flame retardant. You will loose performance.
........The beauty of our cars is that they are daily drivers that outperform dedicated weekend warriors. The more I think about this CO2 freezing and spraying, the more I wonder if the basic appeal of the car will be lost.
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