AMG_55

"we put the e63 on WRC Technologies rolling road, it made a nice round 500bhp-add a few bhp to take account of the auto box, and thats very impressive."

-EVO. 096

i take that as at the wheels

(thats roughly 575)
i think mb misplaced the 7, if this dyno is to be believed

opinions?

newton22

bhp = brake horsepower = horsepower at the crank

WISdomKid

yup, and dont forgot without any auxiliaries either ...

E63AMG

I'm confused. Please clarify: Where did this quote come from?

Is EVO a magazine?

What does "096" refer to?

The reference to a "rolling road" sounds like a dyno measuring horsepower at the rear wheels, not the crank. Do we know which it was?

vraa

Evo is a magazine, great magazine
Rolling road is a dyno, because it's got rollers...

E63AMG

Sooooo, did actually they test the E63? I assume so if they are doing a dyno on it.

If so, what was the issue month and what else did it say? 0-60 times? 1/4 mile times?

I am no expert, but isnt it true that if its got rollers that this is not a dyno measuring brake hp? It would be measuring rear wheel hp.

Something seems strange here.

vraa

They probably extrapolated the crank horsepower from the rear wheel hp.
I'm not sure what drivetrain loss they assumed

ChicagoX

+1

medici78

I've noticed the European testers all seem to be very impressed with the E63, saying it is faster than the E55. However, many actual owners in the USA are not. Something fishy here...

vraa

Probably different criteria. We love stop light to stop light races.

bfnnrgn

Or maybe Mercedes is providing "Gustav" versions of the E63 to reviewers.

E63AMG

With the exception of the AutoBild magazine article I reference in another thread, I have not seen any European tests of the E63 with independant 0-60 or 1/4 tests. The comments on the E63 compared to the E55 in these magazines that I have seen are positive in favor of the E63, but they seem to be more of the "butt dyno" type. It is my belief that the E63 is faster, on average, 0-60 than the E55. This belief agrees with the factory claim. I think its a couple tenths slower in the 1/4 mile than the E55.

It is odd that no US mags have done tests on the E63, but I am sure that is just a matter of time. The truth, whatever it is, will eventually come out.

2K6E55

I dont think we will ever find out the TRUTH regarding the E63 vs. E55 (Steve, you saw the results and experienced it at the Fontana Raceway). We should just be happy with what we have and MOVE ON with our daily life between AMG family. We should be hunting for the M5s & M6s.

mche55!

the truth is both cars are identicle stock 2 stock i had a e55 and now i have the e63 put it to u this way handling wise and braking wise go with e63 if u want aftermarket performance go woth e55 and computer and pulley and you blow the e63 out the water

TopGun32

now that I have the E55...

I would take a bit more handling and braking for a bit less torque and 2 extra gears.

what I can't take.. is not being able to up my power with $3k (pulley and chip)

I love the E63 over my E55.. but I'll wait to pick one up 18+ months from now.

AMG_55

im gay

as ive said, i didnt wite that^^

vader

WTF ?

vader

WTF ?

NVR_L8

^^Yeah

AMG_55

i forgot to log off my cousins computer, that ****in *******

Rafal

Isn't your car too scary?

E63AMG

I suspect that this thread is likely completely made up by an author who is either chronologically or mentally a teenager.

I have now added AMG_55 to my "Ignore" list.

m5spy55

Looks like 001Buster from autospies all over again...

Exodus

There's a video somewhere around here of both vehicles in a drag... the 63 puts like 2-3 cars on the 55 through the 1/4 and launches better off the line...

And what do you mean better to get 55 for performance? ECU and pulley and all... its good, but what about a Twin Turbo for the E63? A TT63 would blow the E55 fully renntech'd out of the water... I imagine...

E63AMG

If you watch and listen to that video closely, the narrator actually admits that the E55 is generally a couple tenths quicker in the 1/4 mile. The video shows an expert in the E63 racing a newbie in an E55.

It is my belief that the E63 does usually launch better (hence the better factory 0-60 quotes). However, the word is that the new transmission on the E63 is the weak link in any plan to significantly bump up the power in the E63. Assuming that is true, an E55 is a better choice if you plan to significantly mod it.