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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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Check out the new Autoweek. 2008 launch as '09 model. 650hp blown 6.2L. This **** could trap 135-140 in the 1/4. 100K+

Sell your E's and save up.

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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
Check out the new Autoweek. 2008 launch as '09 model. 650hp blown 6.2L. This **** could trap 135-140 in the 1/4. 100K+

Sell your E's and save up.
Holly S**T, that's hella FAST.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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What a ripoff... that must be a pretty pricey supercharger they are using lol. 100k+ for a freaking corvette that will probably still look like the base 45k version (which you can get to 650hp for less than $10,000)
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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No it will have a moderately sized slit in front...and *very* tiny Z07 badges on the sides to show off that it is a 100K car...duh.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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No it will have a moderately sized slit in front...and *very* tiny Z07 badges on the sides to show off that it is a 100K car...duh.
Plus many tuners who modify C6 with forced induction use Z06's fenders and hood anyway... these things are minor and cost nothing.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
What a ripoff... that must be a pretty pricey supercharger they are using lol. 100k+ for a freaking corvette that will probably still look like the base 45k version (which you can get to 650hp for less than $10,000)
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100k on a rattle box ... no thanks.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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z06 + 10 k in mods will beat it lol
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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z06 + 10 k in mods will beat it lol
And C6 + 10k in mods will beat a Z06. Hence, it follows that C6 + 20k in mods will beat a Z07 and look 100% the same lol
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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that hood scoop looks gay, and the rest of the car looks like a stock z06. Sorry not my kind of vechicle regardless of how much power it has. It better have the looks to back up its claims on power.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
And C6 + 10k in mods will beat a Z06. Hence, it follows that C6 + 20k in mods will beat a Z07 and look 100% the same lol
Yes, but GM knows there are plenty of non-car people out there that just want to blow money on some high-po car. Why do you think people buy Ferraris instead of putting $25k into a Supra and will run way faster?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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Cause a Ferrari has the power and something called status symbol to back up its price point. A ferrari is in an entirely different league than say a Supra or this cruddy looking thing GM is coming out with now.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Hey I think the car is a POS too, but I'm thinking of buying one and I'll challenge any of you modded E55's with it. Unless you put 250+ wet shot in your car on top of all your mods you won't stand a chance.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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I agree, Ferrari is 100% different that a supra. It is much better looking, more technologically advanced, more fun to drive, has one of the best interiors, and will destroy a supra on track. On the other hand, if you modify a C6, it will look 100% the same as Z06/Z07, will be 100% the same in fun to drive, will have 100% the same crap interior, and most likely will be faster. We're talking about GM modifying C6 vs other companies modyfing C6 for much, much cheaper. The only good argument you can really make is that Z06/Z07 will have warranty... but thats really not an issue since there are many well-designed turbo kits that a huge percentage of corvette owners use with no problems.

P.S. RawAMGPower, I dont think your argument is valid. I'm thinking of buying a C6, twin turboing it and will blow away your Z07 for much less money in a car that looks the same.

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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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Well, I agree that 100k is pricey for a 'Vette...but you have to realize that this is probably going to be the fastest stock car ever. Maybe the only competition it will have is a bugatti veyron, saleen s7, etc. Cars that cost at least 500k. I still don't think its easy to justify 100k for a vette, but just look at the performance you're getting. Where can you get stock performance like that? Plus, it will come F/I stock, meaning there could be huge potential with just mods like ECU. I'm pretty excited about this car and can't wait for it to come out. I also can't wait for a twin turbo AMG 63 engine.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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in the same issue of that autoweek, they had on the cover the CL63 which IMO looks awesome, but critics still especially in this forum wonder baout the engine. They also have a side story about the s65. a good issue
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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No it will have a moderately sized slit in front...and *very* tiny Z07 badges on the sides to show off that it is a 100K car...duh.
You mean kinda like Mercedes. To the average person the Sl500 looks exactly like the Sl65. The E500 looks just like the E55. That's a pretty weak argument.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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What a ripoff... that must be a pretty pricey supercharger they are using lol. 100k+ for a freaking corvette that will probably still look like the base 45k version (which you can get to 650hp for less than $10,000)
Hhhmm let me see. 100K for a car that will likely be faster in a straight line and around a track than anything under 650K. Yeah that's a rip off. Kinda like the Z06 is such a giant rippoff beacue it's 70K and it's faster and better handling than anything under 400K.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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But just think that if your FI that engine they almost definitely are strengthing the components inside. As a result you will probably be able to tune this car to much higher levels than a regular C6 or ZO6.

I hope part of the 100k is to fix up the interior. If it is, I'd definitely be looking at one.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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But just think that if your FI that engine they almost definitely are strengthing the components inside. As a result you will probably be able to tune this car to much higher levels than a regular C6 or ZO6.

I hope part of the 100k is to fix up the interior. If it is, I'd definitely be looking at one.
Yeah they rdidn't with the really should put 5 or 7K into that interior. Of course Ferrari F40 and F50. Those are about as spartan as you get. Seeing as how the Z06s have already seen 750hp at the crank naturally apsirated I don't see why the Z07/Stingray couldn't do plenty more.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Hhhmm let me see. 100K for a car that will likely be faster in a straight line and around a track than anything under 650K. Yeah that's a rip off. Kinda like the Z06 is such a giant rippoff beacue it's 70K and it's faster and better handling than anything under 400K.
Z06 is not faster and better handling than anything under 400k. If you look at Top Gear's lap times, cars like Ferrari 360 Challange, Porsche GT3 RS, and Ford GT were faster on track and according to the driver were much more fun to drive than Z06 which suffers from lack of feel and unpredictable oversteer. Road and Track's recent USA vs Europe track comparison confirmed that both F430 and Gallardo were faster and far superior overall. From personal experience, C6 was far worse in terms of feel and feedback than even cars like S2000 and doesn't even come close to my elise. Its not even all about track times, its how the car behaves on both street and track and how much confidence it gives you to push the limits that really matters. Z06 does not inspire confidence was referred to as "unpredictable" and downright "scary " on track by more than one expert. When F430 Challange and new GT3 RS comes out, they will be much faster than Z06 on track (because their predecessors are already faster) and far surpass it in subjective terms. Then there are cars like Ariel Atom and Radical SR4 which are under 100k and MUCH faster than Z06 on track. And what about the 100k Ultima GTR? I'm not even going to mention modyfied cars that can beat Z06 for 1/2 the price... these are all stock too!

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Originally Posted by 355Spider
Seeing as how the Z06s have already seen 750hp at the crank naturally apsirated I don't see why the Z07/Stingray couldn't do plenty more.
Oh yeah that's what I'm saying. A 1000+ wrhp and a low 8 second quarter here I come!
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Well, I agree that 100k is pricey for a 'Vette...but you have to realize that this is probably going to be the fastest stock car ever. Maybe the only competition it will have is a bugatti veyron, saleen s7, etc. Cars that cost at least 500k. I still don't think its easy to justify 100k for a vette, but just look at the performance you're getting. Where can you get stock performance like that? Plus, it will come F/I stock, meaning there could be huge potential with just mods like ECU. I'm pretty excited about this car and can't wait for it to come out. I also can't wait for a twin turbo AMG 63 engine.
I agree.Plus I dont really see the difference in the high dollar vette or high dollar e55 that is always in the shop for something.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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I think there is something intangible to having a stock car with 650hp and something you could get a 100K mi. warranty on.

I could pick up a 1000hp C6 right now for $60K that runs 9s on motor + S/C but what if the tranny goes...3-4 times...and the engine goes...$20K quickly + headache.
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
I think there is something intangible to having a stock car with 650hp and something you could get a 100K mi. warranty on.

I could pick up a 1000hp C6 right now for $60K that runs 9s on motor + S/C but what if the tranny goes...3-4 times...and the engine goes...$20K quickly + headache.
Corvette has such a long history with aftermarket, and there are so many established companies that have been working on corvette's for decades that I dont think GM tuned corvette will be that much reliable than lets say, Lingfelter tuner corvette? Like I said before, so many people have 100,000+ miles on their modifiyed corvettes and have no major problems. The motor is very strong and responds to mods much better than most cars on the market. So, is the warranty really worth $30,000-$40,000?
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