Another post-flash 1/4 mile time (Maryland)
10-21-2006, 02:57 PM
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Another post-flash 1/4 mile time (Maryland)
Took my 2006 E55 w/the dreaded flash to the track today. Conditions were so-so, mid 60s? and DA of +780 according to the weather station of one of the racers near me.
Although I kept flubbing the launch, I ran a 12.25@116.70 on a 1.82 60'. For reference, there was another MBWorld member there with his Renntech pulley/ECU 2004 that ran a 12.9@117.5 (not sure on the exact MPH). I had DRs and he was on street tires. Hopefully he'll post his other times.
I am still not used to the Nittos, though. On my street tires, I was able to get the same or better 60' times. On my back to back 12.25 passes, I just wasn't there mentally and gently fed in the gas like I was still on street tires.
Hopefully I'll un**** my brain and actually slam the gas down next time
Although I kept flubbing the launch, I ran a 12.25@116.70 on a 1.82 60'. For reference, there was another MBWorld member there with his Renntech pulley/ECU 2004 that ran a 12.9@117.5 (not sure on the exact MPH). I had DRs and he was on street tires. Hopefully he'll post his other times.
I am still not used to the Nittos, though. On my street tires, I was able to get the same or better 60' times. On my back to back 12.25 passes, I just wasn't there mentally and gently fed in the gas like I was still on street tires.
Hopefully I'll un**** my brain and actually slam the gas down next time
10-21-2006, 04:26 PM
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Took my 2006 E55 w/the dreaded flash to the track today. Conditions were so-so, mid 60s? and DA of +780 according to the weather station of one of the racers near me.
Although I kept flubbing the launch, I ran a 12.25@116.70 on a 1.82 60'. For reference, there was another MBWorld member there with his Renntech pulley/ECU 2004 that ran a 12.9@117.5 (not sure on the exact MPH). I had DRs and he was on street tires. Hopefully he'll post his other times.
I am still not used to the Nittos, though. On my street tires, I was able to get the same or better 60' times. On my back to back 12.25 passes, I just wasn't there mentally and gently fed in the gas like I was still on street tires.
Hopefully I'll un**** my brain and actually slam the gas down next time
Although I kept flubbing the launch, I ran a 12.25@116.70 on a 1.82 60'. For reference, there was another MBWorld member there with his Renntech pulley/ECU 2004 that ran a 12.9@117.5 (not sure on the exact MPH). I had DRs and he was on street tires. Hopefully he'll post his other times.
I am still not used to the Nittos, though. On my street tires, I was able to get the same or better 60' times. On my back to back 12.25 passes, I just wasn't there mentally and gently fed in the gas like I was still on street tires.
Hopefully I'll un**** my brain and actually slam the gas down next time
the best i could manage is a 12.6 @ 181km/h.
please explain
1.what mode u use on the gearbox?
2. what rmp u launch the car @?
3.if u changes gears manually what rmp u change @?
4.what octane feul u use?
5. what is the temp of the atmosphere as well of the engine??
10-21-2006, 04:50 PM
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Hey Wayne,
Thanks for the tip on the launch. I got it down to a 11.90 @117. Would like to try a set of stickyer tires instead of the stock Contis.
The car feels strong but cant seem to get it to the pavement. I'll just
keep trying.
Thanks again,
Tony
Thanks for the tip on the launch. I got it down to a 11.90 @117. Would like to try a set of stickyer tires instead of the stock Contis.
The car feels strong but cant seem to get it to the pavement. I'll just
keep trying.
Thanks again,
Tony
10-21-2006, 05:22 PM
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can u please explain to me in detail how u drive your 55 to be able to run those times.
the best i could manage is a 12.6 @ 181km/h.
please explain
1.what mode u use on the gearbox?
2. what rmp u launch the car @?
3.if u changes gears manually what rmp u change @?
4.what octane feul u use?
5. what is the temp of the atmosphere as well of the engine??
the best i could manage is a 12.6 @ 181km/h.
please explain
1.what mode u use on the gearbox?
2. what rmp u launch the car @?
3.if u changes gears manually what rmp u change @?
4.what octane feul u use?
5. what is the temp of the atmosphere as well of the engine??
- get a little water on the rears
- pull up where it's dry in the burnout area (usually just a few ft)
- apply just enough brake to keep the car from rolling
- aggressively get into the gas while feeding in just enough brake to keep the car from moving... hold at a steady rpm
- when the tires begin to heat up, they will drag the revs down just a little
- left off the brake and then the gas
Wayne, does this sound familiar?..............it should. I printed this out when you posted it last year. You can call me .....................Grasshopper.
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10-21-2006, 06:01 PM
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Awesome! What was your 60' and 1/8 mile ET/MPH on that pass?
Based on the positive DA for the day, it was obvious that the conditions were not as good as it would have appeared just by standing around out there. I was surprised that we were all in T-shirts/jeans, instead of jackets.
Originally Posted by TopGun32
117 is a very nice number too. You are trapping similar to a M5 with just a pulley and ecu.
My car ran 116.7 and it's stock. I think he'll see a couple more MPH once he can put it down in the first 330'. He's really babying it out of the hole to avoid wheelspin.
Rock, that's the burnout
zangerbenz, I've been a best of 12.16@115.29 with my car in bone stock form. Not the quickest, but I think it's in the top 20 for stock E55s on the board. On to your questions...
1. Sport mode for the tranny, comfort for the suspension
2. Right off idle, I don't stall it against the brake at all
3. see above
4. 92 octane
5. The engine usually stays at 90c on the temp gauge, even when hotlapping.
10-21-2006, 06:03 PM
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Relief!!!
Not trying to hijack Wayne's thread. Congrats on KILLER times by anyone's standard. I just wanted to throw out to the board that if these are post-recall flash times, then maybe the recall flash isn't the mass E55 detuning to make way for the E63 conspiracy that some have undertsandably believed it to be??
10-21-2006, 06:37 PM
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Rock, that's the burnout
Rock, that's the burnout
Alright, a serious question. When at the line, are you saying not to power brake at all? Also, does the launch technique change when running DR vs street tires (I know prelaunch is different).
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10-21-2006, 06:40 PM
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Rock, I can't tell you what works for DRs on these cars... I have run quicker short times on my stock tires 
I'm still trying to figure it out.
My best times have always been just sitting at the line and then flooring it (obviously keeping available traction in mind). I like to let the tq of the motor flash the converter to it's highest point, instead of powerbraking/stalling against the converter.
I think that Spero ended up running his quickest short times on DRs doing the same thing - just flashing the converter from idle.
I'm still trying to figure it out.My best times have always been just sitting at the line and then flooring it (obviously keeping available traction in mind). I like to let the tq of the motor flash the converter to it's highest point, instead of powerbraking/stalling against the converter.
I think that Spero ended up running his quickest short times on DRs doing the same thing - just flashing the converter from idle.
10-21-2006, 10:37 PM
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Took my 2006 E55 w/the dreaded flash to the track today. Conditions were so-so, mid 60s? and DA of +780 according to the weather station of one of the racers near me.
Although I kept flubbing the launch, I ran a 12.25@116.70 on a 1.82 60'. For reference, there was another MBWorld member there with his Renntech pulley/ECU 2004 that ran a 12.9@117.5 (not sure on the exact MPH). I had DRs and he was on street tires. Hopefully he'll post his other times.
I am still not used to the Nittos, though. On my street tires, I was able to get the same or better 60' times. On my back to back 12.25 passes, I just wasn't there mentally and gently fed in the gas like I was still on street tires.
Hopefully I'll un**** my brain and actually slam the gas down next time
Although I kept flubbing the launch, I ran a 12.25@116.70 on a 1.82 60'. For reference, there was another MBWorld member there with his Renntech pulley/ECU 2004 that ran a 12.9@117.5 (not sure on the exact MPH). I had DRs and he was on street tires. Hopefully he'll post his other times.
I am still not used to the Nittos, though. On my street tires, I was able to get the same or better 60' times. On my back to back 12.25 passes, I just wasn't there mentally and gently fed in the gas like I was still on street tires.
Hopefully I'll un**** my brain and actually slam the gas down next time
i was under the impression from others on this board that '06's don't receive the flash? regardless, most '05 and '06 cars were not affected the same way '03 and some '04 cars were.
10-21-2006, 10:43 PM
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You are absolutely correct that the post flash loss seems to affect the early models most. There were a few members with newer cars that also had concerns, just so they don't feel left out.
10-21-2006, 10:48 PM
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'06s produced in '06 do not need the flash. It isn't that those of us that don't need the flash got away with anything, since I think the flash is already integrated. Now, I have heard runors that the actual flash compatibility with the hardware / software combo is what was causing some "loss". Of course I like to believe that, since mine is newer, but I doubt it.
You are absolutely correct that the post flash loss seems to affect the early models most. There were a few members with newer cars that also had concerns, just so they don't feel left out.
You are absolutely correct that the post flash loss seems to affect the early models most. There were a few members with newer cars that also had concerns, just so they don't feel left out.
lol...i'm sure they wouldn't mind feeling left out of this one!
10-21-2006, 11:58 PM
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Rock, I can't tell you what works for DRs on these cars... I have run quicker short times on my stock tires I'm still trying to figure it out.
My best times have always been just sitting at the line and then flooring it (obviously keeping available traction in mind). I like to let the tq of the motor flash the converter to it's highest point, instead of powerbraking/stalling against the converter.
I think that Spero ended up running his quickest short times on DRs doing the same thing - just flashing the converter from idle.
I'm still trying to figure it out.My best times have always been just sitting at the line and then flooring it (obviously keeping available traction in mind). I like to let the tq of the motor flash the converter to it's highest point, instead of powerbraking/stalling against the converter.
I think that Spero ended up running his quickest short times on DRs doing the same thing - just flashing the converter from idle.
Here is the link from that day at the track that Derrick posted when I ran with DR's. My 60' time was 1.64. I spoke to the guy that purchased my car in Atlanta a few months ago and he ran the old beast at 11.3 after installing the Kleemann TB. I will be in the Damascus area on Monday, if around maybe we can hook up for a coffee.
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10-22-2006, 08:52 AM
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Awesome! What was your 60' and 1/8 mile ET/MPH on that pass?
Based on the positive DA for the day, it was obvious that the conditions were not as good as it would have appeared just by standing around out there. I was surprised that we were all in T-shirts/jeans, instead of jackets.
My car ran 116.7 and it's stock. I think he'll see a couple more MPH once he can put it down in the first 330'. He's really babying it out of the hole to avoid wheelspin.
Rock, that's the burnout
zangerbenz, I've been a best of 12.16@115.29 with my car in bone stock form. Not the quickest, but I think it's in the top 20 for stock E55s on the board. On to your questions...
1. Sport mode for the tranny, comfort for the suspension
2. Right off idle, I don't stall it against the brake at all
3. see above
4. 92 octane
5. The engine usually stays at 90c on the temp gauge, even when hotlapping.
Based on the positive DA for the day, it was obvious that the conditions were not as good as it would have appeared just by standing around out there. I was surprised that we were all in T-shirts/jeans, instead of jackets.
My car ran 116.7 and it's stock. I think he'll see a couple more MPH once he can put it down in the first 330'. He's really babying it out of the hole to avoid wheelspin.
Rock, that's the burnout
zangerbenz, I've been a best of 12.16@115.29 with my car in bone stock form. Not the quickest, but I think it's in the top 20 for stock E55s on the board. On to your questions...
1. Sport mode for the tranny, comfort for the suspension
2. Right off idle, I don't stall it against the brake at all
3. see above
4. 92 octane
5. The engine usually stays at 90c on the temp gauge, even when hotlapping.
do u allow the gear to change automatically or do u change them @ a certain rmp manually??????
