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C&D runs the E63, M5 (manual) and S6 heads up....

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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C&D runs the E63, M5 (manual) and S6 heads up....

The E63 smokes em all....

E63: 12.6 @ 115
M5 6 speed: 13.0 @ 114
S6: 13.8 @ 104 <--- what a joke.....

Interesting part is that 0-150, the M5 can't pass up the E63...

E63 0-150: 23.3
M5 0-150: 23.4


The E63 beat the M5 in every accerlation test.... 0-60, 0-100, 0-150, 5-60, 30-60, 50-70.....

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Should have listed the 0-60 times:

E63: 4.2
M5: 4.7
S6: 5.4

E63 comes in first place in the shoot out.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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intresting, now go and try tell it to GUSTAV, Mawahaha.

EDIT: just noticed its a manual m5, well then its not kinda surprising, SMG should be faster up to 150 tho.

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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[quote=Fikse;1898844]The E63 smokes em all....

E63: 12.6 @ 115
M5 6 speed: 13.0 @ 114
S6: 13.8 @ 104 <--- what a joke.....

Interesting part is that 0-150, the M5 can't pass up the E63...

E63 0-150: 23.3
M5 0-150: 23.4


The E63 beat the M5 in every accerlation test.... 0-60, 0-100, 0-150, 5-60, 30-60, 50-70.....[/quote

What was profound in this test was C&Ds acknowledgement of AMGs new emphasis on a balanced car with the 63, not just brute power......This is a great must read on all teutonic productions...AUDI missed narrowly, with its new v10.............this is a great issue with a short read on the sl65, "how to scare your passengers", hahahah, and the continental GTC.....
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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someone post this on M5 board and see how long it takes you to get banned
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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someone post this on M5 board and see how long it takes you to get banned
He will probably BAN all users that buy the C&D issue.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BoBcanada
intresting, now go and try tell it to GUSTAV, Mawahaha.

EDIT: just noticed its a manual m5, well then its not kinda surprising, SMG should be faster up to 150 tho.

No need. I'm sure he'll be in here any minute now...
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 430
Should have listed the 0-60 times:

E63: 4.2
M5: 4.7
S6: 5.4

E63 comes in first place in the shoot out.
Well-it was only a matter of time for the E63 to wake-up in performance.......
Why??............I happened to stop into a VERY WELL KNOWN and respected tuner here in Lake Park and we chatted about my car, some of his E's, and what he does....... Well we kind of got to talk'n about the E63 and ........... They proceed to tell me that AMG redesigned the Intake a mid-year because of the "Crappy" initial performance figures and what they are seeing NOW, are these #'s that C & D have posted. Can you believe it....they redesigned the Intake for more legit Hp and Tq...........
Well at least they are now in the realm of Respectability for performance with the E63----I tip my Hat if they did indeed do this to better the E63!!
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Now if I could just get the (improved?) 63 motor in a CLK hardtop coupe, I'm a buyer.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Do ypu think MB will recall all the early builds for low power and replace the intake? Don't they owe these owners some horespower?
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It's a shame that MBUSA decided to stop importing the CLK55/63 coupes to the US.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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The E63 might be tempting after all. However I'd really like to see an SLK63.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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The E63 might be tempting after all. However I'd really like to see an SLK63.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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interesting
but remember manual in a car designed totally for smg will never be as fast
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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It's a shame that MBUSA decided to stop importing the CLK55/63 coupes to the US.
When did this happen? I raced a CLK63 a few months ago and saw one the other day.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kens-E55


Well-it was only a matter of time for the E63 to wake-up in performance.......
Why??............I happened to stop into a VERY WELL KNOWN and respected tuner here in Lake Park and we chatted about my car, some of his E's, and what he does....... Well we kind of got to talk'n about the E63 and ........... They proceed to tell me that AMG redesigned the Intake a mid-year because of the "Crappy" initial performance figures and what they are seeing NOW, are these #'s that C & D have posted. Can you believe it....they redesigned the Intake for more legit Hp and Tq...........
Well at least they are now in the realm of Respectability for performance with the E63----I tip my Hat if they did indeed do this to better the E63!!
No, I'm not sure I believe it...... I happened to be at my dealer this morning so I asked them about this topic and we pulled the part numbers from the CLS63 and E63. They have not made any changes or updates to the intake for the CLS63 or E63. They showed me other examples of when a part is changed how it gets a superseded part number.

I know, let the conspiracy theorists start.... I am sure they didn't change the part number so no one would ever find out. Yet they are willing to tell Renntech all of the secrets of AMG since he worked there 15 years ago......

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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Eurosport
interesting
but remember manual in a car designed totally for smg will never be as fast
Car was not totally designed for SMG. What happened to all the people that said "wait until the manual M5 comes out, it will be faster" Now they are going to say that the SMG would have beat the E63 if only it were tested
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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When did this happen? I raced a CLK63 a few months ago and saw one the other day.
i believe u raced a CLK63 convertible, not a coupe. CLK55/63 coupes are not coming to the US.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
When did this happen? I raced a CLK63 a few months ago and saw one the other day.

Coupe = hardtop.

As far as that goes, the CLK63 costing $5-8K MORE than the E63....
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fikse
The E63 smokes em all....

E63: 12.6 @ 115
M5 6 speed: 13.0 @ 114
S6: 13.8 @ 104 <--- what a joke.....

Interesting part is that 0-150, the M5 can't pass up the E63...

E63 0-150: 23.3
M5 0-150: 23.4


The E63 beat the M5 in every accerlation test.... 0-60, 0-100, 0-150, 5-60, 30-60, 50-70.....

Allow me: "Just wait for the twisties!"
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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YEAH Its manual ! smg is different story with launch control !
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How is it a different story. It is the same exact tranny just without the hydraulic and computer controls mounted on it. Should be faster because it weighs less.

In all the tests I've seen with the M3 the SMG was always 0.1 seconds slower than the 6 spd manual in tests.


On another note, the S6 did terrible! 13.8 1/4 mile? E550 could smoke that POS.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Proves what we've been saying all along: take the M5's seven speed gearing advantage away, and its lack of torque kills it. No magic, just good gearing.

As to the S6: so much for "never follow"!! Audi should just give it up...wtf is the "S" badge supposed to represent if it's a full second slower than its competition?? Sheesh..I get the feeling that those things aren't exactly flying off of dealers' lots!!

Originally Posted by Fikse
The E63 smokes em all....

E63: 12.6 @ 115
M5 6 speed: 13.0 @ 114
S6: 13.8 @ 104 <--- what a joke.....

Interesting part is that 0-150, the M5 can't pass up the E63...

E63 0-150: 23.3
M5 0-150: 23.4


The E63 beat the M5 in every accerlation test.... 0-60, 0-100, 0-150, 5-60, 30-60, 50-70.....

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Originally Posted by Kar don
How is it a different story. It is the same exact tranny just without the hydraulic and computer controls mounted on it. Should be faster because it weighs less.

In all the tests I've seen with the M3 the SMG was always 0.1 seconds slower than the 6 spd manual in tests.


On another note, the S6 did terrible! 13.8 1/4 mile? E550 could smoke that POS.
SMG is a 7 speed. Manual is a 6 speed.

Why do they keep comparing the S6 to these cars??
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