Thericker

I'd love to run 1 of you guys, obviously if E55, closest to stock as possible..
Against my 2005 C6 Corvette, I know you'll probably win, but would love to see how my Vette stacks up??

Please don't take my request as if I've lost my mind, the 05' C6 w/A4 tranns (auto) w/oem 3.15 gears, has been shown (half a dozen guys w/slips ran 'em at tracks on Vete forum) to run a best 1/4 of 12.5xx @110-113mph bone stock...

I have CAI, and Cat-back...no huge gains...So anybody up for some fun? freeway roll-ons seem to be best shot around busy LA....

Thericker

What nobody in LA? wants a friendly race??

ChicagoX

Take it to the track. You'll get all of the data you're looking for.

Thericker

I would but the closest one is 4hrs away

jangy

Wanna come down to San Diego. We are mighty friendly round here.

Thericker

Why not meet me half way some where? or do you ever have business that brings you to the LA area?

jangy

LOL, my business keeps me in an office for 12hours a day!! Hehe.

Sure, we can find a spot half way. Lets do it soon, though if you want a stock one. The other SD Crew boys are done getting RennTech stage one and I'm coming up next week.

Thericker

That sounds good but nobody will be stock? or probably at least running stage 1-2 Renn or Evo, Kleemann I'll be sitting duck w/those cars, but what the hell! always fun to lin'em up, pm me on details....

Edit: I understand, you'll be stock only for a little while longer..got it! let's hook up soon...

jangy

We've also got an E63 among us that will likely be stock for a bit, so you can wrestle with him.

jangy

Is the C6 leaf springs, or no? Dunno why I thought the Z06 was all I needed to look out for? You looking for more straights or twisties? I wish we could get you down here to do the Palomar mountain / Hidden Valley road loop. i love all the undulations.

Thericker

It's really 4 wheel independant suspension, but has a Transverse leaf spring design...Which can easily be swapped out for an awesome suspension set-up w/coil overshocks, by Phadt & many other manufact..

I'm new to the whole twisties thing, but getting better every time I take the wheel, in those types of environments, I'd love to see how the C6 compares straight line, as you E55k have really set the bar in this venue..

I'd love a Canyon run, I just recently lowered it myself, pretty much slammed, it corners like crazy now, real EZ lowering---jack stands, and a few tools, your there, the C6 from the fact, comes made to be adjustable in ride height, by turning the existing bolts, and cutting the bushings out..

jangy

Sweet. Sounds like fun. I'm more into having some turns, but I'm down for some straight blasts as well.

Do you plan on the coil overs any time soon? Does the Z06 have them? What does it have other than engine?

I'm wondering what the best bang for the buck is... a C6 modded out or a Z06 slightly modded?

CynCarvin32

4 WHOLE hours? Sounds terrible!

Ill just risk running into an innocent person OR getting caught and having my car hauled away on a tow truck.

Thericker

On the freeway? who am I going to run into there?........ and being honest here...you mean to tell us you've never ran anybody on the freeway or a city street in your whole life??

If so you've got more self control than any of us normal speed freaks..

jangy

LOL , not to stop this banter (since I enjoy others going back and forth as much as i like to be in the middle), but can we keep 2 topics going at once?
You two go back and forth on the ethical ramifications of speeding, and lets also discuss the differences between a Vette and an E55.

Just to clarify the C6 vs Z06 question, lets say i had a set amount to spend and was fully prepared to void warranty and mod it out, which is a better platform? Let's say if i wanted to spend $80K total.

jangy

You won't be running over me, thats for sure!!

Thericker

I'd go Z06 if your bottom line can take the price, besides extra ponies it is far more beautiful than the reg C6, massive wider fenders front and rear w/functional brake scoops w/ built in coolers..

C6 w/6.0 liter can be modded for way more rwhp & rwto than the high compression 7.0 Z06.....Plus you can remove the roof, not an option on the Z06.. they have several 600-800 rwhp & rwto C6's... The modded Z06 usally tops out around 550-575 rwhp w/far less torque, unless they throw a TT on the Z06, but even then there not breaking the 600rwhp zone...


Besides having the 505 hp the Z06 comes w/bigger 6-piston front brakes & 4-piston rears, a dry-sump oil system, Carbon Fiber front fenders, a Magnesium engine cradle, an all aluminum frame, saving 136lbs over the reg C6, power to weight ratio of 6.2lbs per horsepower....

The aluminum 427 7.0 Liter has...Exotic hardware, featuring a forged-steel crankshaft with six-bolt main bearings. Intake valves and connecting rods were made out of lightweight titanium. Redline is 7,000 rpm..

The suspension has a few different tweeks over the base C6 such as...Beefed up sway bars, stiffer over all suspension ride, better shocks etc..

No the Z06 doesn't have the coil overs, there pretty decently priced at about 2k total for parts and about $500 for install, besides infinitely better handling characteristics, they make the ride height very easily adjustable, you can really dump it, compared to the bolt/bushing method I used..

dragonAMG

FYI -- I raced a SUPERCHARGED C5 Z06 yesterday from a dig to 120mph. He beat me by a car length. A stock E55 should easily take you, let alond a modded one. Good luck... you'll need it.

Thericker

You can add all the Z06 body panels for far less, than purchasing a Z06, add Z06 wheels, brakes, and mod the base 6.0 liter w/little forging to 1000+hp using Twin Turbo applications currently available, Most C6 guys are running w/600+ rwhp and 600 rwto w/either Maggie superchargers or TT units, and NO grenading, any higher than 600rwhp and you should forge the internals...if you have the deep pockets..the base is the way to go if seeking KRAZZEEE power..

newton22

Though you can easily make monster power out of the LS2 the reg. C6 has, the LS7 is just a solid motor with a much better background.

Criticize GM and their crappy interiors all you want, but I agree everyone should give credit to how much they know their pushrod motors. The LSx engines are truly solid.

Thericker

What about the Subaru video floating around here? guy weighed more than the C6, and only had 417rwhp 409rwrto easily was walking a highly modded E55k? w/475rwhp & 536rwto...

I dynoed stock at 350rwhp 360rwto, stock against stock it should be a good race..

A properly supercharged 2004 Z06 should be running about 500+rwhp 500+rwto? he must've had bad traction issues?? the guys at the tracks w/these power levels are trapping 127-132 mph...

jangy

$ for $, the Vette is a heck of a car. Especially given that all the weaknesses can be worked on. If I get one, it will stricktly a toy, so I'm not big on the others. Also, the looks of the Z06 over the C6 isn't important. the other stuff may be.

dragonAMG

Can't speak on behalf of that video, but I've personally seen stock C6's and stock E55's run the 1/4 here in Vegas (2,200 ft. evelvation) and run ~ 13.2 and 12.5 respectively.... on numerous occasion... that's the average. The stock e55 is a good .5 - .7 sec's faster than your car.

Thericker

Well I'll line up w/Jangy and we'll try and get video, and see what's what? I think my C6 might be a little stronger than normal, regular A4 C6, or new A6 C6, dyno stock at 315-325 rwhp & 325-335rwto

I'll find that video and post up the link for ya..

jangy

Wooohooo, lets set this up. I think my E55 is quite healthy as well.