Z06 vs E63
03-17-2007, 05:20 PM
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I just traded my 2007 Z06 for a new E63 and I have to express my satisfaction with the trade. The Z06 is a bad to the bone performer. It is a wonderful car with everything that is golden and pride-inspiring about our country and American engineering.
The Z06 expresses American character; it will kick you *** and do so economically. It is not a gentleman, it is John Wayne and it has the guns to prove it. It expresses performance without effete snobbery. It is a car we can be proud of.
The E63 is an older enthusiast's dream; a killer with all the comforts. It is European (I am a genetic mongrel with English, Irish, Scots, German and Swiss blood); it has finesse, smoothness and luxuries that the Z06 never dreamed of. I have driven this car for only 300 miles and I am in love with it. 50% of my genetics is Swiss-German, so I take pride in engineering of the automobile. For a 63 year old man, this is a performance wet dream.
The Z06 is all American; it takes no prisoners and makes no apologies. If you want to duel with sabers, take an E63; if you want to rumble take the Z06.
I am proud of American thunder--the steel and raw killing power of American engineering and assembly. American prowess is affordable. But, now I am old and want the creature comforts while I am breaking the law. The E63 delivers.
When the new CTS-V comes out, it may do the job. It may outrun the E63, but it will do so in the American way. I love my E63.
The Z06 expresses American character; it will kick you *** and do so economically. It is not a gentleman, it is John Wayne and it has the guns to prove it. It expresses performance without effete snobbery. It is a car we can be proud of.
The E63 is an older enthusiast's dream; a killer with all the comforts. It is European (I am a genetic mongrel with English, Irish, Scots, German and Swiss blood); it has finesse, smoothness and luxuries that the Z06 never dreamed of. I have driven this car for only 300 miles and I am in love with it. 50% of my genetics is Swiss-German, so I take pride in engineering of the automobile. For a 63 year old man, this is a performance wet dream.
The Z06 is all American; it takes no prisoners and makes no apologies. If you want to duel with sabers, take an E63; if you want to rumble take the Z06.
I am proud of American thunder--the steel and raw killing power of American engineering and assembly. American prowess is affordable. But, now I am old and want the creature comforts while I am breaking the law. The E63 delivers.
When the new CTS-V comes out, it may do the job. It may outrun the E63, but it will do so in the American way. I love my E63.
03-17-2007, 06:21 PM
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enjoy the new ride cosmic...and dont worry about the caddy, it's got nothing on these amg's!!!
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Like oh...my....gawd! I was like, yeah. I mean, does it come with a AARP card or something?
Sure, just old people. Or maybe just seems that way because most "young people" can't afford them and their maintenance.
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I just traded my 2007 Z06 for a new E63 and I have to express my satisfaction with the trade. The Z06 is a bad to the bone performer. It is a wonderful car with everything that is golden and pride-inspiring about our country and American engineering.
The Z06 expresses American character; it will kick you *** and do so economically. It is not a gentleman, it is John Wayne and it has the guns to prove it. It expresses performance without effete snobbery. It is a car we can be proud of.
The E63 is an older enthusiast's dream; a killer with all the comforts. It is European (I am a genetic mongrel with English, Irish, Scots, German and Swiss blood); it has finesse, smoothness and luxuries that the Z06 never dreamed of. I have driven this car for only 300 miles and I am in love with it. 50% of my genetics is Swiss-German, so I take pride in engineering of the automobile. For a 63 year old man, this is a performance wet dream.
The Z06 is all American; it takes no prisoners and makes no apologies. If you want to duel with sabers, take an E63; if you want to rumble take the Z06.
I am proud of American thunder--the steel and raw killing power of American engineering and assembly. American prowess is affordable. But, now I am old and want the creature comforts while I am breaking the law. The E63 delivers.
When the new CTS-V comes out, it may do the job. It may outrun the E63, but it will do so in the American way. I love my E63.
The Z06 expresses American character; it will kick you *** and do so economically. It is not a gentleman, it is John Wayne and it has the guns to prove it. It expresses performance without effete snobbery. It is a car we can be proud of.
The E63 is an older enthusiast's dream; a killer with all the comforts. It is European (I am a genetic mongrel with English, Irish, Scots, German and Swiss blood); it has finesse, smoothness and luxuries that the Z06 never dreamed of. I have driven this car for only 300 miles and I am in love with it. 50% of my genetics is Swiss-German, so I take pride in engineering of the automobile. For a 63 year old man, this is a performance wet dream.
The Z06 is all American; it takes no prisoners and makes no apologies. If you want to duel with sabers, take an E63; if you want to rumble take the Z06.
I am proud of American thunder--the steel and raw killing power of American engineering and assembly. American prowess is affordable. But, now I am old and want the creature comforts while I am breaking the law. The E63 delivers.
When the new CTS-V comes out, it may do the job. It may outrun the E63, but it will do so in the American way. I love my E63.
(120 mile drive) to spend the weekend...E63.
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03-18-2007, 02:23 AM
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Congratulations.......and from a 50 year old enthusiast........that is why the SRT8 Jeep is on the chopping block. Raw american power.....but I know what you mean about that 4 door luxury while breaking the law!
03-18-2007, 10:02 AM
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It takes imagination and application to see them in their 20s--young and vigorous, marching off to Europe to die in legions on the beaches of France or among the bombed out ruins of Berlin.
Now they are in the way; they block our acceleration and fumble for change in the supermarket while we posture and sigh wanting them to hurry up. So what if these 10th generation Americans fought in WW II, or Korea, or Viet Nam or Iraq; as some have inferred, they are just the cannon fodder that has contributed to building a nation where some can come and disrespect them.
The man who looks too old to drive, who is blocking your way on the expressway may have been one of the first on the beach at Normandy. Now he needs protection, support, and empathy from those who are young and robust.
The measure of a man (IMHO) can be found in his treatment of those who are weaker than himself, those who need consideration and even his protection. For some, "old people" are easy targets--punching bags as we saw on TV recently when a mugger punched a 101 year old woman in the face to get her $32.
I am not trying to be critical or argumentative, but I think when referring to fellow members of the forum (I am sure there are many over 50) it might be thoughtful to refer to them with some sensitivity to how the words might make them feel.
I do not need sympathy myself; I will soon be 64, but I weigh 175 (6 ft tall), can still bench 200 lb., just finished publishing a book, have written several articles for learned journals and monographs, and have developed 3 subdivision in the last 2 years. I'm not bragging, I'm just pointing out that "old people" often have more going on than the "young people," whose only claim to ascendancy is the age of their muscle tissue.
03-18-2007, 10:18 AM
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Old people. The phrase seems a bit pejorative doesn't it. You envision a bunch of old geezers sitting around in rockers mumbling and drooling on their blankets--a situation which is a reality for many of our older citizens.
It takes imagination and application to see them in their 20s--young and vigorous, marching off to Europe to die in legions on the beaches of France or among the bombed out ruins of Berlin.
Now they are in the way; they block our acceleration and fumble for change in the supermarket while we posture and sigh wanting them to hurry up. So what if these 10th generation Americans fought in WW II, or Korea, or Viet Nam or Iraq; as some have inferred, they are just the cannon fodder that has contributed to building a nation where some can come and disrespect them.
The man who looks too old to drive, who is blocking your way on the expressway may have been one of the first on the beach at Normandy. Now he needs protection, support, and empathy from those who are young and robust.
The measure of a man (IMHO) can be found in his treatment of those who are weaker than himself, those who need consideration and even his protection. For some, "old people" are easy targets--punching bags as we saw on TV recently when a mugger punched a 101 year old woman in the face to get her $32.
I am not trying to be critical or argumentative, but I think when referring to fellow members of the forum (I am sure there are many over 50) it might be thoughtful to refer to them with some sensitivity to how the words might make them feel.
I do not need sympathy myself; I will soon be 64, but I weigh 175 (6 ft tall), can still bench 200 lb., just finished publishing a book, have written several articles for learned journals and monographs, and have developed 3 subdivision in the last 2 years. I'm not bragging, I'm just pointing out that "old people" often have more going on than the "young people," whose only claim to ascendancy is the age of their muscle tissue.
It takes imagination and application to see them in their 20s--young and vigorous, marching off to Europe to die in legions on the beaches of France or among the bombed out ruins of Berlin.
Now they are in the way; they block our acceleration and fumble for change in the supermarket while we posture and sigh wanting them to hurry up. So what if these 10th generation Americans fought in WW II, or Korea, or Viet Nam or Iraq; as some have inferred, they are just the cannon fodder that has contributed to building a nation where some can come and disrespect them.
The man who looks too old to drive, who is blocking your way on the expressway may have been one of the first on the beach at Normandy. Now he needs protection, support, and empathy from those who are young and robust.
The measure of a man (IMHO) can be found in his treatment of those who are weaker than himself, those who need consideration and even his protection. For some, "old people" are easy targets--punching bags as we saw on TV recently when a mugger punched a 101 year old woman in the face to get her $32.
I am not trying to be critical or argumentative, but I think when referring to fellow members of the forum (I am sure there are many over 50) it might be thoughtful to refer to them with some sensitivity to how the words might make them feel.
I do not need sympathy myself; I will soon be 64, but I weigh 175 (6 ft tall), can still bench 200 lb., just finished publishing a book, have written several articles for learned journals and monographs, and have developed 3 subdivision in the last 2 years. I'm not bragging, I'm just pointing out that "old people" often have more going on than the "young people," whose only claim to ascendancy is the age of their muscle tissue.
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Old people. The phrase seems a bit pejorative doesn't it. You envision a bunch of old geezers sitting around in rockers mumbling and drooling on their blankets--a situation which is a reality for many of our older citizens.
It takes imagination and application to see them in their 20s--young and vigorous, marching off to Europe to die in legions on the beaches of France or among the bombed out ruins of Berlin.
Now they are in the way; they block our acceleration and fumble for change in the supermarket while we posture and sigh wanting them to hurry up. So what if these 10th generation Americans fought in WW II, or Korea, or Viet Nam or Iraq; as some have inferred, they are just the cannon fodder that has contributed to building a nation where some can come and disrespect them.
The man who looks too old to drive, who is blocking your way on the expressway may have been one of the first on the beach at Normandy. Now he needs protection, support, and empathy from those who are young and robust.
The measure of a man (IMHO) can be found in his treatment of those who are weaker than himself, those who need consideration and even his protection. For some, "old people" are easy targets--punching bags as we saw on TV recently when a mugger punched a 101 year old woman in the face to get her $32.
I am not trying to be critical or argumentative, but I think when referring to fellow members of the forum (I am sure there are many over 50) it might be thoughtful to refer to them with some sensitivity to how the words might make them feel.
I do not need sympathy myself; I will soon be 64, but I weigh 175 (6 ft tall), can still bench 200 lb., just finished publishing a book, have written several articles for learned journals and monographs, and have developed 3 subdivision in the last 2 years. I'm not bragging, I'm just pointing out that "old people" often have more going on than the "young people," whose only claim to ascendancy is the age of their muscle tissue.
It takes imagination and application to see them in their 20s--young and vigorous, marching off to Europe to die in legions on the beaches of France or among the bombed out ruins of Berlin.
Now they are in the way; they block our acceleration and fumble for change in the supermarket while we posture and sigh wanting them to hurry up. So what if these 10th generation Americans fought in WW II, or Korea, or Viet Nam or Iraq; as some have inferred, they are just the cannon fodder that has contributed to building a nation where some can come and disrespect them.
The man who looks too old to drive, who is blocking your way on the expressway may have been one of the first on the beach at Normandy. Now he needs protection, support, and empathy from those who are young and robust.
The measure of a man (IMHO) can be found in his treatment of those who are weaker than himself, those who need consideration and even his protection. For some, "old people" are easy targets--punching bags as we saw on TV recently when a mugger punched a 101 year old woman in the face to get her $32.
I am not trying to be critical or argumentative, but I think when referring to fellow members of the forum (I am sure there are many over 50) it might be thoughtful to refer to them with some sensitivity to how the words might make them feel.
I do not need sympathy myself; I will soon be 64, but I weigh 175 (6 ft tall), can still bench 200 lb., just finished publishing a book, have written several articles for learned journals and monographs, and have developed 3 subdivision in the last 2 years. I'm not bragging, I'm just pointing out that "old people" often have more going on than the "young people," whose only claim to ascendancy is the age of their muscle tissue.
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03-18-2007, 11:30 AM
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Hey, I'm PROUD to be 56 and out-of-shape and driving an E63. I've "earned" it.
Enjoy yours as well.=NLK=
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Congrats Cosmic and welcome!
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Cosmic, my friend. The key is to not even take it personal. This is a faceless social scene and people are always going to make remarks which may or may not have even been intended to hurt. It is clear that you continue to enjoy life to the fullest, and that is the best revenge of all!! Age is indeed nothing but a number. Life is the most precious gift of all at any age and to squander it due to perception is flat stupid. Enjoy yourself and do your thing. I'd love to hook up for a ride sometime. I find it almost ironic when we have our meets from time to time, how the various forum personalities truly have a common bond when we come face to face. I'm one of the loosest mouths on here and yet I have a blast at the meets. There is such diversity just within the AMG family. Life would be so boring otherwise.
Last thing, I love your point about the true measure of integrity being when one holds the aces. That is a lesson I learned a while back. It is so easy to get along and cooperate when life is great and all have plenty. But, the tough times is when the real personality steps up!!
Last thing, I love your point about the true measure of integrity being when one holds the aces. That is a lesson I learned a while back. It is so easy to get along and cooperate when life is great and all have plenty. But, the tough times is when the real personality steps up!!
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congrats on the E63.. very fine car.
(don't worry about the CTS-V [next gen]... by then AMG will have TT's on the E63 w212 motor)
well atleast they better!
The M and AMG boys will never let the V brand outplay them in their own game.
(don't worry about the CTS-V [next gen]... by then AMG will have TT's on the E63 w212 motor)
well atleast they better!
The M and AMG boys will never let the V brand outplay them in their own game.
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Cosmic, my friend. The key is to not even take it personal. This is a faceless social scene and people are always going to make remarks which may or may not have even been intended to hurt. It is clear that you continue to enjoy life to the fullest, and that is the best revenge of all!! Age is indeed nothing but a number. Life is the most precious gift of all at any age and to squander it due to perception is flat stupid. Enjoy yourself and do your thing. I'd love to hook up for a ride sometime. I find it almost ironic when we have our meets from time to time, how the various forum personalities truly have a common bond when we come face to face. I'm one of the loosest mouths on here and yet I have a blast at the meets. There is such diversity just within the AMG family. Life would be so boring otherwise.
Last thing, I love your point about the true measure of integrity being when one holds the aces. That is a lesson I learned a while back. It is so easy to get along and cooperate when life is great and all have plenty. But, the tough times is when the real personality steps up!!
Last thing, I love your point about the true measure of integrity being when one holds the aces. That is a lesson I learned a while back. It is so easy to get along and cooperate when life is great and all have plenty. But, the tough times is when the real personality steps up!!
But, on this forum, where everyone share a common interest, there should be a high level of courtesy and consideration. In the deep south, being a gentleman was part of southern pride (within the last 30 years that has changed due to the mass migration of peoples from other sections of the US and other nations); good manners were important and even the least educated said "yes sir" to their father and their grandfathers were patriarchs.
The true discriminator of class in America is not money but manner; you can live in a double wide and have class or live in a mansion and be class-less. I'll get off the soap box--the subject matter is undeserving of so long a monologue.
There are a lot of nice people on this forum and I expect to learn from them.
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What the hell ever happened to manners anyway ? Welcome old timer ! We'll all be there sooner than we think. Getting there in an AMG is icing on the cake.
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Cosmic, you are a true gentleman. I agree fully. Having grown up in North Carolina, I've had my mouth slapped for not saying "yes maam and no maam" and had my share of soap in the mouth. It does build character (not that I claim to have any). Times do change. Enjoy yourself and hop in. Life is what we make of it.
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Cosmic, you are a true gentleman. I agree fully. Having grown up in North Carolina, I've had my mouth slapped for not saying "yes maam and no maam" and had my share of soap in the mouth. It does build character (not that I claim to have any). Times do change. Enjoy yourself and hop in. Life is what we make of it.
A merciful providence has blessed me with the means to obtain so wonderful a car, and I am beholden to fate, good luck, and the 30 years of hard work that got me here.
Let's drive.
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Once again, good advice; you are wise beyond your youth. I have "hopped-in," and this is my favorite car of all the 52 that I have owned. I love this car.
A merciful providence has blessed me with the means to obtain so wonderful a car, and I am beholden to fate, good luck, and the 30 years of hard work that got me here.
Let's drive.
A merciful providence has blessed me with the means to obtain so wonderful a car, and I am beholden to fate, good luck, and the 30 years of hard work that got me here.
Let's drive.
HAHAH!! Youth, my a$$!! I am right behind you. Add to that the fact that I am fat, never excercise, and eat poorly and I'd call us even at best!
The 63 is a beautiful car. I have definitely enjoyed riding in R's car. It is a monster in its own right. Any plans to track it?
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Cosmic, I just noticed your location. I lived in Atlanta for almost ten years. I still have a plot of land up the 400 (just west of Dawsonville), so I keep an eye on that area. You live on the lake? Man, the fun I used to have with those southern belles at that place!!
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hey bro what steroid fourms were you on? im into bodybuilding and am on a few fourms my self. stats 39yrs old (just turned on the 13th of march) 6-1, 251lbs 10-12% body fat. shooting for 260lbs and tryin to keep it at 10%bf
