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Old 03-18-2007, 10:25 PM
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Butt Dyno says it feels good mid to top.




The first stage is to torque the long bolts to 10 NM and the short to 15NM. The second stage is +90 degrees on the long bolts while following the pattern. The right side has 18 bolts and the left side has 20. A torque angle gauge is recommended to do the job, so I wrote down the pattern and checked them off one by one to avoid mistakes. Everything else up to that point was quick and easy so that's why i think the torque sequence was the hardest or most time consuming of all the required steps.
What do you mean by +90 degrees? No big deal I have a partner who would know exactly what I need to do. The guy who dropped the 5.5L motor in my C43.
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What do you mean by +90 degrees? No big deal I have a partner who would know exactly what I need to do. The guy who dropped the 5.5L motor in my C43.
It's a torque to angle method of tightening a bolt, basically a quarter turn of the ratchet. Similar to the method used for the crank pulley the difference being that the crank pulley bolt is torque to yield and requires a new bolt as per MB latest instructions.
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rflow Nice, Thanks for the pics, did you ever get the lift and duration spec? and was there any change in the hydraulic element in rocker arms? I have heard that they plan to close Moroso this summer for a year to do a major face lift.









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rflow Nice, Thanks for the pics, did you ever get the lift and duration spec? and was there any change in the hydraulic element in rocker arms? I have heard that they plan to close Moroso this summer for a year to do a major face lift.
I don't have the specs yet, waiting on VRUS for the info. No rocker adjustment was necessary thanks in part to the hydraulic valve clearance compensation elements. I heard about the face lift but I heard only 3-4 months for the drag strip.

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What is that way back by the fire wall?
You know it.

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Looks like a solenoid for the A/C system made by the NOS corporation of Germany
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Looks like a solenoid for the A/C system made by the NOS corporation of Germany
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Looks like a solenoid for the A/C system made by the NOS corporation of Germany
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Looks like a solenoid for the A/C system made by the NOS corporation of Germany
I thought it was fire suppression system, 'cause that car is hot, hot, hot.......
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Do you install new cam bearings when you pop these cams out ?
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Do you install new cam bearings when you pop these cams out ?
No as per the instructions you use the existing ones unless you find something wrong. All bearings looked good, stock cam had an even pattern on all lobes. Engine has only 20,000 miles so i wasn't expecting any wear. I also did a compression test which came back stong, weakest cylinder had 163 and the strongest had 168.
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There are no cam bearings on MB heads. The camshaft tower surfaces are used as lubricating surfaces. Very common on most import aluminum head engines.
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Very interesting !! steel on aluminum ??????
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Aluminum.
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There are no cam bearings on MB heads. The camshaft tower surfaces are used as lubricating surfaces. Very common on most import aluminum head engines.
No bearings, it looked like a bearing pressed into the head and the camshaft tower but now i can't be sure. That would mean in the event of to much wear then you need to remove the head and buy a new camshaft tower? I agree with Vader that is crazy.
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Dude, didn't i read somewere your car is leased?

if it is "YOUR DA MAN!!" i love it
No that was PTE making a joke at the track. Definitely a purchase.
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If the surface is damaged, the head is junk.

It's just how it is designed. Most motors now-a-days are designed to be thrown away, not rebuilt. Ease of manufacture and assembly are the priorities for OEMs.

They are in business of selling NEW cars, not fixing old ones.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ MBLN
If the surface is damaged, the head is junk.

It's just how it is designed. Most motors now-a-days are designed to be thrown away, not rebuilt. Ease of manufacture and assembly are the priorities for OEMs.

They are in business of selling NEW cars, not fixing old ones.
Thanks for the info Vadim. I automatically assumed cam bearings when i looked at them during removal . I should have looked closer.
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Thanks for the info Vadim. I automatically assumed cam bearings when i looked at them during removal . I should have looked closer.
How about the "Muffler Bearings" did you have to change those
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How about the "Muffler Bearings" did you have to change those
Oh, no..... I forgot. I would do them after installing a new set of crossdrilled brake lines.
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So the bearing journals are aluminum and the cam is aluminum too Vadim ??? Sorry to be a PITA but just trying to understand...
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Aluminum is harder than , copper backed / Babbit inserts, For years Manufactures were scared of low hour failures with out some sort of bearing inserts on the early Aluminum casting. Todays Die cast, procedures & new alum alloy mixtures have , lead them to a much stronger casting than one would thing. I've attached some pictures of the cam cradle / cam shaft bridge assy ,with the rocker arms. When I get the heads back , from the guy who does the porting for me . I'll have more pictures of the saddles in the head for the cams.
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That's awesome! Glad to hear they went on without any issues. It's always good to have friends that you can depend on for help... Not too many guys would tackle this in their garage!

Can't wait to hear the dyno results.. Hopefully it will move a bit of the power up from the bottom and allow you some better traction out of the hole and then stronger mid-to-high end.
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Originally Posted by PTE
Aluminum is harder than , copper backed / Babbit inserts, For years Manufactures were scared of low hour failures with out some sort of bearing inserts on the early Aluminum casting. Todays Die cast, procedures & new alum alloy mixtures have , lead them to a much stronger casting than one would thing. I've attached some pictures of the cam cradle / cam shaft bridge assy ,with the rocker arms. When I get the heads back , from the guy who does the porting for me . I'll have more pictures of the saddles in the head for the cams.

PTE...thanks for the pictorial education...never knew metallurgy came so far as to replace a traditional babbit bearing...cool !!!
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Originally Posted by PTE
Aluminum is harder than , copper backed / Babbit inserts, For years Manufactures were scared of low hour failures with out some sort of bearing inserts on the early Aluminum casting. Todays Die cast, procedures & new alum alloy mixtures have , lead them to a much stronger casting than one would thing. I've attached some pictures of the cam cradle / cam shaft bridge assy ,with the rocker arms. When I get the heads back , from the guy who does the porting for me . I'll have more pictures of the saddles in the head for the cams.
Thanks for the pics Pat. The cam bearing bridge as Mercedes likes to call it.


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