NGS_E55

I'm yet another techie, but in the end you typically use the nav to get to new/unknown locations. It does the job.

I do like:
-instructions passed to instrument cluster
-distance guage to next turn
-automatic background change when headlights come on.

Wish:
-distance/ETA was displayed on map screen
-more routing options(shortest/fastest)
-more intuitive interface

MB Fanatic

To the person that said the lexus has the best nav, your wrong. A nav is useless if you can't use it while your driving.

Hands down Acura has the best navigation system in the business.

termigni

just go get an E63 and post up pictures by tonight.

SolidGranite

My 07 ML has NAV and the IPOD kit. I can't however control anything on the ipod w/ the nav system. Only through the steering wheel. I would expect I can traverse through playlists and songs on the nav system. However, you can't even change the song playing w/ it.

Bluetooth, the NAV system has zero integration w/ this. If I find an establishment I'm looking for, I am unable to call them through the NAV w/ my bluetooth phone. I have to type the number into my phone.

Storage. None available.

Other car settings and customization options. None.

Basically this nav system WILL get you from point A to B, but in the end that is about it. Should be a $750 option at this grade in my opinion.

SolidGranite

LOL! Nice. I like your attitude!

Can Drive 55

One of the reasons I got rid of my Lexus.

jangy

Don't confuse NAV with Comand. Why should any NAV unit integrate with an iPOD? You guys lost me there.
To those that say NAV is not needed, I disagree. In fact, I use mine when I canyon carve. How else am I supposed to know where the hairpins are?

Last thing, the ML has a completely different interface than the E does.

tucsonbroker

The day Micro$oft makes an operating system for the Mercedes is the day I stop buying them. I can't imagine getting the blue screen of death when I try to start my car. A nice interface from Apple would be welcome.

JLP

Funny you should say that..........the OS in a 2007 S550 is windows based as is the OS in the new BMW M5. Microsoft is already in our cars!

tucsonbroker

Perfect. When I decide to upgrade my 07, I'll opt out on the command system. Maybe by then they will have realized the error of their ways.

Yacht Master

After many suggestions to satisfy your complaints over the Mercedes/Navteq GPS Navigation in the current E63, seems you just keep changing up your your wish list. As I stated before, and still feel, you are a Lexus guy or maybe Acura. We all realize that the Nav in the Benz could be better, (in our short sighted American way) But the system must be able to operate world wide to a much greater degree, than the Japanese and domestic counterpoints do. NavTeq has the largest world wide map database and is first choice in Europe.

Then come the self proclaimed Techie, more complaining, Reminds me of a girl that doesn't get a pink Lexus SC 430 for her 16th birthday. If you come here to vent fine. But quit with the laundry list of complaints. We have here at MBWorld a wealth of valuable information. With a few clicks you can find out how to get 600 hp. out of your E55, even techie tips like TV and playing DVDs on the NAV screen. So if you truly are techie show us, contribute, take what you don't like and find a fix or solution and bring it. That is what we are here for.

sack5000

Well I didn't do any research but did expect my new $90K loaded out E63 to have a decent NAV system. When I first tried it, I almost immediately concluded it was a piece of sh*t. However, after reading the instructions and working with it some, I find it quite functional. It works!! If you are some of the many out there complaining try reading the instructions...this will eliminate a lot of your frustration.

I have been exposed to the Lexus, Acura, and Honda NAVs. They have more features, bells, etc. and look better but really do the same thing. The voice activated features are there but have a long way to go on those cars.

Somebody was complaining about the clock size the other day on the E63, I bet that ****** hasn't even punched his car.

Happy driving...

eddietr

I'm with you there. The multitouch interface from the iPhone could be adapted very nicely to a car.

Having made the mistake of getting a winblows mobile phone, and dealing with the crashes and lost settings and the dst patch I have to apply every 5-6 days and the overall asinine interface, the last thing I want to see is windows mobile in my car.

To add one thing to the actual topic of the thread, when I started looking for a luxury car last year I really wanted to like the LS460. Mostly because of the electronics. And I must say they have a great nav. And the Mark Levinson sound is very impressive (for a car) And after playing with it in the lot I was almost ready to buy the car...

...until I actually drove it. I don't care if the navigation included a supermodel who sits in the passenger seat and whispers directions in your ear, it still wouldn't be worth having to push a soulless car like a Lexus around.

So while it would be really great if the German cars had really great electronics, given the current choice we have I'll take the Porsches, Mercedes, and BMWs with their inferior toys and far superior driving dynamics all day long.

SolidGranite

No offense taken from your post. You have a right to your opinion. However, if you had actually read my 1st post to start the thread, you would have seen I asked everyone when the E is going to get the new command system as the S/C/CL class all have. This isn't a venue for me to vent and waste internet bandwidth and server resources here at MBWorld.

stevebez

Not even close ... the new C class is mildly bigger than the outgoing C-Class... and even so is smaller than the 3 series.

Also... I dont think the nav is that bad - much better than any handheld Garmin I have used ... also with Traffic master rerouting its pretty good.

Also not sure what you guys are on about ito Bluetooth and Ipod ... I got IPOD dock in glove compartment and I have bluetooth connectivity via the command unit ... what else do you want it to do ?

JP465NY

I am a computer professional and know the technology behind NAV. Who needs it anyway. Way over priced. I have been driving for 32 years without it and will be getting it on my new E63 for the first time. I doubt I will even use it.

Will I get a Lexus LS460 over an E63 becuase it has better presentation for its NAV device? ..... NO.

JOE

SolidGranite

But can you change tracks/playlists/artists/etc.. via the iPod dock in the glove box? My experience w/ it you have to change on iPod before connecting or you can ONLY change the track via steering wheel only. The command system does not talk to it at all.

As far as BT goes, can you call a restaurant you find on the NAV through the BT function without having to copy the phone number?

JLP

You actually can control tracks/playlists/artists etc via the steering wheel controls and it displays right in front of you in the MFD.

The I-pod is connected to the COMMAND unit via the audio gateway, but it does not display anything on the COMMAND unit.

Like someone already said the E63 has a decent NAV system, a fully functional Ipod setup, and full Bluetooth connectivity where is the problem for all you techno geeks?

I guess Solidgranite is buying a E63 today!

SolidGranite

LOL! Now all I need to do is find the right color combo as I'm not ordering new.

stevebez

In terms of calling a restaurant via BT from NAV listing - this link would be usefull but err I doubt I would ever use that - I seldom use the NAV list of restautants anyway.... but if thats the criterion on whether to buy an E63 ... you should look elsewhere I am quite sure.

What frustrates me is I cannot control the rear TV display from the front command. I have to use the friggin remote... which has no discrete buttons to select the desired input either.... If anyone has an answer to this please let me know! But this did not come close to stopping me getting the beast!!!

Any functionaility I got beyond the engine and the accelerator was a bonus in my opinion ... except the SBC which is a dangerous POS.

JLP

SBC is no longer available in the 2007 W211's (E63 included) . Only the SL's and SLR's have SBC now.

TREZ63

I drove a friend's ML the other day and was pissed that his NAV was better than mine. He could located by reverse phone number which is awesome. I love that when I am in Japan everyone uses phone numbers to lookup the address cause most streets don't have names. Also scrolling was a lot nicer in the ML.
My buddy asked me last night if I liked the nav in my car. I said that I am not crazy about it but it gets the job done. Truth is, it's not the best, but it's the best we have for now and that'll have to do.

mosesgolf

Pretty much aggree. I have an 03 X5 and that nav is a pos. Wifey's 07 E class Nav is a little better but German installed navs pale in comparison to the simplicity of Japanese car navis. W/ that said, just get the E63. The driving experience alone surely outweighs the little niggles of the nav system. BTW, how often do you REALLY need it?

TREZ63

well I think the real question is, would he use it more if it didn't suck so much. I know I would. I'd use the Nav in my mom's lexus to look for nearby restuarants all the time, my 07 nav couldn't find the largest caino in Socal last night in the POI. So yeah, I don't use it much at all simply because I know it sucks.

vraa

For the X5, there are navigation software upgrades out from www.x5world.com
I did one of the software upgrades (I think version 27) and all I can say now is DAMN.
It really made a difference. Give it a shot.

http://www.x5world.com/navigation-sy...available.html