Dying to buy E63, but.....
03-29-2007, 10:12 AM
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Dying to buy E63, but.....
Guys,
I would be happy to purchase an E63 tomorrow, but... I just cannot get over the TERRIBLE navigation system which this 90k car has. It is now dated by 5 years and is a joke for a car of this class.
Does anyone have concrete information as to when it's going to get the updated S class navi system? Heck, even the C class has the new one starting this Spring. If MBUSA is going to wait until the redesign of the E then I don't know if I'll ever end up in one... Just can't wait that long!
Thanks!
I would be happy to purchase an E63 tomorrow, but... I just cannot get over the TERRIBLE navigation system which this 90k car has. It is now dated by 5 years and is a joke for a car of this class.
Does anyone have concrete information as to when it's going to get the updated S class navi system? Heck, even the C class has the new one starting this Spring. If MBUSA is going to wait until the redesign of the E then I don't know if I'll ever end up in one... Just can't wait that long!
Thanks!
03-29-2007, 10:37 AM
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Guys,
I would be happy to purchase an E63 tomorrow, but... I just cannot get over the TERRIBLE navigation system which this 90k car has. It is now dated by 5 years and is a joke for a car of this class.
Does anyone have concrete information as to when it's going to get the updated S class navi system? Heck, even the C class has the new one starting this Spring. If MBUSA is going to wait until the redesign of the E then I don't know if I'll ever end up in one... Just can't wait that long!
Thanks!
I would be happy to purchase an E63 tomorrow, but... I just cannot get over the TERRIBLE navigation system which this 90k car has. It is now dated by 5 years and is a joke for a car of this class.
Does anyone have concrete information as to when it's going to get the updated S class navi system? Heck, even the C class has the new one starting this Spring. If MBUSA is going to wait until the redesign of the E then I don't know if I'll ever end up in one... Just can't wait that long!
Thanks!
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03-29-2007, 10:47 AM
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Dont order the Nav, then you won't have the 'worst one in the industry'. This just goes to show that Im a problem solver at heart.
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03-29-2007, 10:55 AM
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I don't know if it's the worst in the industry, but is not very user friendly. My daughters MDX's is a heck of a lot better to deal with. I just don't bother with it. To busy going fast to pay attention. Not good at multi tasking.
03-29-2007, 11:29 AM
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Just get a C63. Problem solved. All the new refinements compared to the 'dated' E class. Isn't the new C bigger inside than the current E or something like that I heard?
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03-29-2007, 11:33 AM
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But as others mentioned you are buying a 500 plus horsepower super-sedan and complaining about how shi*ty the NAV is????
Your priorities are skewed, maybe wait for the new Lexus supercar.
They have great NAV systems.
03-29-2007, 11:40 AM
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There are worst NAV systems out there than the one in a E63.
But as others mentioned you are buying a 500 plus horsepower super-sedan and complaining about how shi*ty the NAV is????
Your priorities are skewed, maybe wait for the new Lexus supercar. They have great NAV systems.
But as others mentioned you are buying a 500 plus horsepower super-sedan and complaining about how shi*ty the NAV is????
Your priorities are skewed, maybe wait for the new Lexus supercar.
They have great NAV systems.I don't know if it's the worst in the industry for sure but I've used a lot of these systems and the 2003 MB model is the worst so far based on my personal experience.
I might end up getting the C63 but I still don't know when it's coming out. My C55 has been in two accidents now and I'm dying to get rid of it, but have 13 lease payments left.
03-29-2007, 12:29 PM
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My E60 M5 had a pretty lame Nav. Porsches all have lame navs... so I never ordered one. And MB has somewhat lame navs.
My wife's INfiniti M has an amazing Nav. My Acura RL that I'm trading in for my E55 (pick up tomorrow!) has the best nav in the business, and Lexus' nav is a close 2nd tied w/ Infiniti.
The Germans build the best cars to drive. The Japanese build the best cars to sit in. The electronics on Japanese cars rocks, but the drive isn't there.
I like a full package too, but unfortunately, you have to compromise somewhere regardless of what car you buy.
My vote for all around best full package? The E55 followed closely by the M5. Even with their sucky navs.
BTW, the worst electronics package ever? It's in my little Lotus Elise. lol
My wife's INfiniti M has an amazing Nav. My Acura RL that I'm trading in for my E55 (pick up tomorrow!) has the best nav in the business, and Lexus' nav is a close 2nd tied w/ Infiniti.
The Germans build the best cars to drive. The Japanese build the best cars to sit in. The electronics on Japanese cars rocks, but the drive isn't there.
I like a full package too, but unfortunately, you have to compromise somewhere regardless of what car you buy.
My vote for all around best full package? The E55 followed closely by the M5. Even with their sucky navs.
BTW, the worst electronics package ever? It's in my little Lotus Elise. lol
03-29-2007, 12:35 PM
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Check out this link.
http://www.advancednav.com/product_i...9e96092256a0de
Watch the Video!
I think this is a great product and a very good solution. Get the E63 with the navigation so you have a real time map and use this system for the voice directions. Problem solved (I think). Good luck.
03-29-2007, 01:19 PM
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There will likely be very little updates to the '08. MB sometimes adds a few things, but I think 030 package may be it until the new body in '09.
To those that love the Acura / Lexus systems, I agree that their navs are better. My only advise is go get the car and love it. Slighted to me is in things that CAN"T be replaced. Also, the nav in the '07 is not the same as the '03, so don't confuse yourself. Last, if you are saying that the "new" C is comparable to an E, then definitely save yourself the cash and do it. Why buy an E just for the name?
To those that love the Acura / Lexus systems, I agree that their navs are better. My only advise is go get the car and love it. Slighted to me is in things that CAN"T be replaced. Also, the nav in the '07 is not the same as the '03, so don't confuse yourself. Last, if you are saying that the "new" C is comparable to an E, then definitely save yourself the cash and do it. Why buy an E just for the name?
03-29-2007, 01:23 PM
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I think nav systems are the biggest waste of money and certainly not a deal breaker. Biggest gimmick option out there. Get the E63.
03-29-2007, 01:25 PM
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There will likely be very little updates to the '08. MB sometimes adds a few things, but I think 030 package may be it until the new body in '09.
To those that love the Acura / Lexus systems, I agree that their navs are better. My only advise is go get the car and love it. Slighted to me is in things that CAN"T be replaced. Also, the nav in the '07 is not the same as the '03, so don't confuse yourself. Last, if you are saying that the "new" C is comparable to an E, then definitely save yourself the cash and do it. Why buy an E just for the name?
To those that love the Acura / Lexus systems, I agree that their navs are better. My only advise is go get the car and love it. Slighted to me is in things that CAN"T be replaced. Also, the nav in the '07 is not the same as the '03, so don't confuse yourself. Last, if you are saying that the "new" C is comparable to an E, then definitely save yourself the cash and do it. Why buy an E just for the name?
I have also come to know the new C is only going from 85 cubic feet of space to 88 while the 3-series has 93!
03-29-2007, 01:29 PM
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Are there better NAV systems out there? Yes. Does the marignal NAV system in a E63 make it any less of a car? No.
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03-29-2007, 01:46 PM
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No sh*t...........NAV is for soccer moms and wimps, if you own a E63 and can't get to your destination with a decent NAV then you have no business owning such a fine automobile.
Are there better NAV systems out there? Yes. Does the marignal NAV system in a E63 make it any less of a car? No.
Are there better NAV systems out there? Yes. Does the marignal NAV system in a E63 make it any less of a car? No.
03-29-2007, 01:46 PM
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I knew I was going to get comments like this but I plan on using the NAV a lot. I'm just the person who likes the entire package. I don't want to spend all this money and feel slighted everytime I get in the car. I know it sounds picky and what not, but it's just my personality I guess.
I don't know if it's the worst in the industry for sure but I've used a lot of these systems and the 2003 MB model is the worst so far based on my personal experience.
I might end up getting the C63 but I still don't know when it's coming out. My C55 has been in two accidents now and I'm dying to get rid of it, but have 13 lease payments left.
I don't know if it's the worst in the industry for sure but I've used a lot of these systems and the 2003 MB model is the worst so far based on my personal experience.
I might end up getting the C63 but I still don't know when it's coming out. My C55 has been in two accidents now and I'm dying to get rid of it, but have 13 lease payments left.
I'm one who HATES after market things -- things popping out of the dash board or sticking on the dash board (Tom-Tom's), it just takes away from the quality and design. Unfortunately, while the Germans have mastered the art of engineering, they haven't quite caught up to the Japanese companies (namely Acura, Lexus, and Infinti) in terms of technology - and I mean ALL TECHNOLOGY, not just the nav. The satellite nav's that $30,000 Acura's are offering are not even optional on $185,000 S65's. The integrated iPod jack that Nissan is offering standard, costs $400 to wire into a $50,000 E-Class. It's pathetic.
Unfortunately, at the moment, there's not much you can do. While the new C-Class/S-Class/CL-Class navs are better, they aren't still on par with the other guys. The resolution, the no touch screen ability, the features - or lack of, and so forth still aren't there. BUT, the NAV does offer you the basic functions that will get you day-in and day-out, and all the other performance and luxury amenities will take your mind off of it. At the end of the day, you use the steering, brakes and seats more than the NAV.
Hopefully in future Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi & Co. will partner up with technologies companies like Microsoft to offer much better operating systems on their navs. And remember, now that Mercedes uses DVD Navigation you can still find upgrades/updates for your nav., so that's something comforting in the future. For the mean time, enjoy the 500HP, help is on the way!
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03-29-2007, 01:49 PM
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Forget the comments people make. It's true, some people have the sole priority of getting a car with a lot of horsepower and good engineering so things like NAV, or luxury don't seem matter to them -- and fine, whatever, good for them! But it does matter to a lot of people and Mercedes-Benz doesn't offer the "best in the industry" (let's put it that way).
I'm one who HATES after market things -- things popping out of the dash board or sticking on the dash board (Tom-Tom's), it just takes away from the quality and design. Unfortunately, while the Germans have mastered the art of engineering, they haven't quite caught up to the Japanese companies (namely Acura, Lexus, and Infinti) in terms of technology - and I mean ALL TECHNOLOGY, not just the nav. The satellite nav's that $30,000 Acura's are offering are not even optional on $185,000 S65's. The integrated iPod jack that Nissan is offering standard, costs $400 to wire into a $50,000 E-Class. It's pathetic.
Unfortunately, at the moment, there's not much you can do. While the new C-Class/S-Class/CL-Class navs are better, they aren't still on par with the other guys. The resolution, the no touch screen ability, the features - or lack of, and so forth still aren't there. BUT, the NAV does offer you the basic functions that will get you day-in and day-out, and all the other performance and luxury amenities will take your mind off of it. At the end of the day, you use the steering, brakes and seats more than the NAV.
Hopefully in future Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi & Co. will partner up with technologies companies like Microsoft to offer much better operating systems on their navs. And remember, now that Mercedes uses DVD Navigation you can still find upgrades/updates for your nav., so that's something comforting in the future. For the mean time, enjoy the 500HP, help is on the way!
Tee_Tz.
I'm one who HATES after market things -- things popping out of the dash board or sticking on the dash board (Tom-Tom's), it just takes away from the quality and design. Unfortunately, while the Germans have mastered the art of engineering, they haven't quite caught up to the Japanese companies (namely Acura, Lexus, and Infinti) in terms of technology - and I mean ALL TECHNOLOGY, not just the nav. The satellite nav's that $30,000 Acura's are offering are not even optional on $185,000 S65's. The integrated iPod jack that Nissan is offering standard, costs $400 to wire into a $50,000 E-Class. It's pathetic.
Unfortunately, at the moment, there's not much you can do. While the new C-Class/S-Class/CL-Class navs are better, they aren't still on par with the other guys. The resolution, the no touch screen ability, the features - or lack of, and so forth still aren't there. BUT, the NAV does offer you the basic functions that will get you day-in and day-out, and all the other performance and luxury amenities will take your mind off of it. At the end of the day, you use the steering, brakes and seats more than the NAV.
Hopefully in future Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi & Co. will partner up with technologies companies like Microsoft to offer much better operating systems on their navs. And remember, now that Mercedes uses DVD Navigation you can still find upgrades/updates for your nav., so that's something comforting in the future. For the mean time, enjoy the 500HP, help is on the way!
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03-29-2007, 01:52 PM
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Ya know, you guys are actually pounding some sense into me. Since I'm a techie...I don't just want the NAV for getting from point A to point B. I want it for it's other capabilites like bluetooth integration, MP3/Ipod integration, storage, other car controls, etc... I have zero issues getting to where I want to go as I have google maps on my blackberry anyway. I just really would like to enjoy all the features a good NAV system can provide.
It's kind of like an old elegant hotel that doesn't have flat-panels in their rooms or a modern gym, yet costs $2,000 per night and another hotel with hip amenities, 50" flat-panels in their rooms and costs $1,000 per night. You'll know where to find us techies!
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03-29-2007, 01:54 PM
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Nav has low cool factor, but it works fine. I'm not sure why so many people have such a big beef with the MB NAV? I have a Lexus too with touch screen; the NAV is cooler, but in the end, functionally, it does the same thing as the MB NAV. Touch screen leaves fingerprints too.
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Ya know, you guys are actually pounding some sense into me. Since I'm a techie...I don't just want the NAV for getting from point A to point B. I want it for it's other capabilites like bluetooth integration, MP3/Ipod integration, storage, other car controls, etc... I have zero issues getting to where I want to go as I have google maps on my blackberry anyway. I just really would like to enjoy all the features a good NAV system can provide.
