lkirchner

It was posted yesterday under AMG Feedback.

MB_Forever

Thanks for the location, I just read it right now. I was the one that submitted that question multiple times, but they never replied. I guess now they have. Here is the data I have from AMG-Mercedes' website:



Again, I think the 100 kg (221 pounds) figure is correct because it has been verified by multiple members.

Any input or feedback to further clarify this would be greatly appreciated...

cicbenz

yea but maybe that roof load is E63 specific and doesn't count for the E55

Fikse

roof load, not sure how that's interpreted as the weight differential between the regular and pano roof....

roof load sounds like how much weight you could put up there if you installed the roof racks....

lkirchner

Typically when "load" is used it refers to how much weight the structure can hold and not the weight of it.

enzom

That's correct. That figure has to represent how much weight the roof can stand.

MB_Forever

Though what you guys are suggesting seems logical, in Europe sometimes they refer to things differently than we do here in the U.S. The roof load spec seems to be listed on cars that have the pano roof option and not others. For example, it is listed for E63 and S63 but not for CLS63 ????

So, I'm wondering why would they tell us how much weight we can load on an E63 and S63 roofs, but not tell us how much weight we can add to CLS63 roofs???

When they say "Roof Load", I don't know if they are referring to:

1) The load that the roof exerts on the car or
2) The weight you can add on top of the roof

Mercedes lists the curb weight of E63 as 4035 pounds and that includes 90% full tank and 150 pounds driver. But it seems that when people who have the pano roof option weighted their car, they got an extra 150 to 200 pounds.

I honostly don't know, and I could be wrong, but I would definately like to find out.

Thanks for everybody's feedback, please keep them coming so that we can reach some kind of conclusion on this.

Thanks,

MercedesBenz_Forever

Fikse

good question, maybe since they call the CLS a coupe, they don't put the roof racks on so it wouldn't be applicable?

MB_Forever

Okay everybody, the verdict is in. AMG Private Lounge Cheif Information Editor, just sent me an e-mail stating the following:

"The pano roof option only adds 40 KG or about 88 pounds not 100 KG. This was the response from AMG."

So to end ALL SPECULATION, the pano roof only adds 88 pounds.

By the way, thanks to JRocket and everyone who gave feedback. I think 88 pounds is not too bad of a price to pay for the extra coolness.

cicbenz

especially if the car is white or silver, I can't wait til I can afford an AMG

kip

Meaning 100kg is the load you can carry on your roof...

juicee63

Great thread guys..I think I am gonna chop my cls roof off since I cannot use it to carry anything LOL, wonder what a CLS roofless would run, hell I think I will toss out the back seat as well. :-D

Thanks for the clarity

MB_Forever

Yes, the 100kg is the maximum amount of load you can carry on the roof. You will notice that this spec is only listed for cars that have the "Roof Rack" as an option.

According to AMG, the weight of the pano roof option is an additional 88 lbs, but according to some people on the board who weighted their cars, it is about 140-150 lbs extra.

Therefore, it is probably safe to conclude that the pano roof adds about 100-110 lbs or so. Not bad for a cool option, and definately MUCH BETTER than the 221 pounds I previously thought it was.

BiTurboAmg

I was told that the roof would add 100-200lbs when shopping for the sl. I wanted a white car with the pano roof since it looks so good but wanted the car to be as light as could be. Guess they were right when they told me that.

sack5000

Any more research on the weight of the pano roof, or does this conclusion stand? I understand that every E63 with P2 comes "automatically" with the pano roof option as well. At 88lbs seems to be okay to have.

200onthedash

Pano roof is a must have IMO.

I had it on my E55, and got it on my E320 as well. Keeps the car cool as well.

Estate55

You could add an extra 300 lbs or so by adding the "Estate" option!

moparrbust

All(OEM) 211 body E-Class cars have aluminum fenders.

E55AMGGG04

I'm in NY and I'm currently stock and have the pano roof. I always knew it was a little heavier and I think giving it a go with another E55 stock without the roof would be a great idea. I wish someone in NY would set this up with me.

MB_Forever

Wow, this is an old thread.... but I'm glad it's still alive as there's been more data coming to update the results since the last test in 2007

We've actually done some more research on this subject since AMG's response two years ago. Back in September of 2008, we gathered many different E55s/E63s and decided to weight them on the same scale and compare the results. Needless to say, the results were very interesting..... The scale we used only printed in increments of 5 so the results are rounded to the nearest 5 lbs. Also, all cars weighted had slightly more than half tank of gas.

2003 E55 with premium 1 package = 4075 lbs
2003 E55 with premium 1 package & pano roof = 4220

Notice that for 2003 models ONLY, pano roof seems to have added: 145 lbs extra to the car, which turned out to be 25 lbs heavier than in later models.

2004 E55 with premium 1 package = 4070 lbs
2006 E55 with premium package & pano roof = 4185

Again, for some reason, the 2006 pano roof equipped cars were about 20 lbs lighter than older models

2007 E63 with premium 2 package = 4240 lbs
2007 E63 with premium 2 package & pano roof = 4365 lbs

As you can see, the E63 is quite heavier than the E55. In the end, it was safe to conclude that the pano roof option added an extra 100 to 120 lbs to the car depending on year and additional specs. It would be great if people can weight their car and list their options and respond back to this thread, so we can get more data in on how much options weight.

The statement in bold is incorrect. There are plenty of P2 cars that do not have the pano roof option. The pano roof option is a stand alone option with an additional (separate) cost on top of P2 package. It would be closer (or more believable) to say that all Performance Package E63s come with pano roof, but even that is not true. When I was shopping for my car, there were 2 cars with performance package and no pano roof: one was white and the other was black. I happened to get the black one, so I know there is another one out there

sack5000

I understand that the pano roof is a separate option. Let's say that in virtually all cases the pano roof is present as an option along side the P2 package. At this time, you will find this to be the case in virtually all E63s for sale so I'm not seeing "plenty" of cars without pano but with P2. Going to P1 car the pano will not be present but is 100-120 lbs worth the loss of keyless and the lighting package? In the case you mention those were 2007 cars and a few were made without pano but with P2.

Any idea the weight of a performance package car versus a standard E63?