W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Video: E55 vs. a F360 and a Viper

Old May 15, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 05VENOM
Very Nice. I like the 121+ mph..I always look at the trap speed before the time. My best trap speed with the Viper is 125mph. Can't seem to break 115 mph in the 63..best is 114.61. I am still playing with all the possible adjustments C/S, Comfort/sport susp.. traction on/off, shift manually etc. Since both cars are driven to and from the track..I like my 1/4 set-up to be the same as what I will use for daily driving. I have yet to run the 63 with the traction off and charcoal filters removed..hoping this will result in a 12.4 116 pass.....your thoughts from experience?
I think Enzom has the best launching technique.. I believe he does a slight burnout in the water box, Rolls to the line, Leaves the traction control on, does not power brake, waits for the light to turn green, and then rolls into the accelerator like he is stepping on an egg (barefoot).

BTW, I have had higher trap speeds in my E55 as well...
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
I think Enzom has the best launching technique.. I believe he does a slight burnout in the water box, Rolls to the line, Leaves the traction control on, does not power brake, waits for the light to turn green, and then rolls into the accelerator like he is stepping on an egg (barefoot).

BTW, I have had higher trap speeds in my E55 as well...
I usually don't do wet burn-outs with the 63 but will try it.
Will be at E-town Sat if you and Enzom are interested.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 05VENOM
I usually don't do wet burn-outs with the 63 but will try it.
Will be at E-town Sat if you and Enzom are interested.
Not sure if I can make it, but I will let you know if I do..
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Old May 15, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
Not sure if I can make it, but I will let you know if I do..

You will definately break that 11.5, you could do better 60ft and you would run 11.3! Venom put the car in DYNO mode you will trap higher! You could do 12.3@117 in the 63! We are all counting on you.

Sleeper your car is Very Fast! Love seeing the Sedan walk the super sports cars.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Sleepster, Nice vid. and run ........and remember guys he has the added weight of a videographer in the car............... and I'm told me she's a real heifer.

Here is my question:

A modified E55 generally traps at 118-123mph in the 1/4mile. I thought the stock 500hp Vipers trapped at about the same speed. I can understand how an E55 can smoke one from the dig but from a roll I would expect that driver error would be less of a factor. So what is going on here? Is it just that the E55 has more torque or does it build speed more rapidly due to greater HP?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Sleepster, Nice vid. and run ........and remember guys he has the added weight of a videographer in the car............... and I'm told me she's a real heifer.

Here is my question:

A modified E55 generally traps at 118-123mph in the 1/4mile. I thought the stock 500hp Vipers trapped at about the same speed. I can understand how an E55 can smoke one from the dig but from a roll I would expect that driver error would be less of a factor. So what is going on here? Is it just that the E55 has more torque or does it build speed more rapidly due to greater HP?
I think it is the torque..Horsepower helps with top speed, but it is the torque that gives you the passing power on the highway. I think I am putting out at least more than 150 Ib-ft of torque more than that Viper.

BTW, I know you have a sense of humor Rock, but that videographer you are referring to is my girlfriend and she doesn't have a sense of humor...
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Old May 15, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX

BTW, I know you have a sense of humor Rock, but that videographer you are referring to is my girlfriend and she doesn't have a sense of humor...
Haha!!

Then you need to keep her away from your computer screen......at least when I'm online.

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Old May 15, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Haha!!

Then you need to keep her away from your computer screen......at least when I'm online.
Your sense of humor is taking a turn for the worst.. quickly.. that SH*T is not funny. She is on Mbworld almost as much as I am.. Regardless, you are missing the point that it is rude and uncalled for to call someone you don't even know a heifer. I hate to hijack my own thread, but we do not appreciate that thoughtless joke...
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Old May 15, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
I think I am putting out at least more than 150 Ib-ft of torque more than that Viper.
stock SRT10 Vipers put down 535ftlbs of torque- so are you saying that you are putting down close to 700! You should have totally smoked him if that was the case.

The Viper barely jumped at the start- I say he was asleep at the wheel.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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The Viper barely jumped at the start- I say he was asleep at the wheel.
Its all relative my friend.. basically I made it look as if he was asleep at the wheel. That is why I am thinking it is the torque. I have been in a number of races from a rolling start and typically my car jumps out 1-2 car lengths quicky and easily on the other car. ..
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Old May 15, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
Its all relative my friend.. basically I made it look as if he was asleep at the wheel. That is why I am thinking it is the torque. I have been in a number of races from a rolling start and typically my car jumps out 1-2 car lengths quicky and easily on the other car. ..
You know what Sleeper,these guys don't know your car. They are more so into paper racing. The man's E55 is NOT Stck!!!! Don't you guys read!

I say Venom bring the Viper out,meet Sleeper X and we'll set it up! End of talk!! Plain and simple in the vid Sleeper man waxes both the Viper and the Ferrari. End of story until proven otherwise. Jeeez!
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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Relax big guy. I already knew your girlfriend was petite from a previous thread that you posted. Remember when I asked you about who was filming?

No disrespect was intended. I thought you would get the "heifer" comment as an inside joke.

Note to self: Don't try to be funny with Sleeper.

Peace out.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
Its all relative my friend.. basically I made it look as if he was asleep at the wheel. That is why I am thinking it is the torque. I have been in a number of races from a rolling start and typically my car jumps out 1-2 car lengths quicky and easily on the other car. ..
Did you manually downshifted and waited for the honks? or just kicked-down at the 3rd honk?
I have found that to manually have the transmission in the right gear can totally changes the outcome of the race (from a roll)...
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by phatmitzu
Did you manually downshifted and waited for the honks? or just kicked-down at the 3rd honk?
I have found that to manually have the transmission in the right gear can totally changes the outcome of the race (from a roll)...
Downshift before the first honk.. Leave it in S mode and let the car do the shifting for you...
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Great Vid Sleeper, you are the man.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
Its all relative my friend.. basically I made it look as if he was asleep at the wheel. That is why I am thinking it is the torque. I have been in a number of races from a rolling start and typically my car jumps out 1-2 car lengths quicky and easily on the other car. ..
I could attest to that....the car is truly a beast, It is aggresively quick of the line. No BS... I don't know but i smell E-town this saturday, what do you guys say....I will need a helmet though there is no way in hell I am paying $120 for that piece of eggshell..
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
Downshift before the first honk.. Leave it in S mode and let the car do the shifting for you...


What stage are you at if you dont mind me asking? 11.5 @ 121mph is impressive.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Relax big guy. I already knew your girlfriend was petite from a previous thread that you posted. Remember when I asked you about who was filming?

No disrespect was intended. I thought you would get the "heifer" comment as an inside joke.

Note to self: Don't try to be funny with Sleeper.

Peace out.
Rock, I understand that you like to bring comic relief to this forum, and I for one find a lot of your comments to be hilarious.. However, sometimes the jokes go too far and making fun of a women's weight is always dangerous ground..

Note to self: Don't take Rock to seriously.

Now lets get back to sharing mod ideas and posting videos.
Peace..
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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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You know what Sleeper,these guys don't know your car. They are more so into paper racing. The man's E55 is NOT Stck!!!! Don't you guys read!

I say Venom bring the Viper out,meet Sleeper X and we'll set it up! End of talk!! Plain and simple in the vid Sleeper man waxes both the Viper and the Ferrari. End of story until proven otherwise. Jeeez!
No worries Project C55, we are going to make a lot of videos this summer.. Time to set some things up...
And I want to start with the exotics

M5 - Done
F360 - Done
Viper - Done
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
No worries Project C55, we are going to make a lot of videos this summer.. Time to set some things up...
And I want to start with the exotics

M5 - Done
F360 - Done
Viper - Done
Z06
911 Turbo
911 GT2
F430
Murcielago
You drive a hard bargain Mijo!!!! I hope to be in each one of those showdowns, even if it is at 4 in the morning lol!!!...as always following you guys, I am getting old....
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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No worries Project C55, we are going to make a lot of videos this summer.. Time to set some things up...
And I want to start with the exotics

M5 - Done
F360 - Done
Viper - Done
Z06
911 Turbo
911 GT2
F430
Murcielago
Ohhhh ohh! Look at the list of meals he's eaten. Five more entree's to go! Those will be the runs of the century right there
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
You will definately break that 11.5, you could do better 60ft and you would run 11.3! Venom put the car in DYNO mode you will trap higher! You could do 12.3@117 in the 63! We are all counting on you.

Sleeper your car is Very Fast! Love seeing the Sedan walk the super sports cars.
What is dyno mode?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
You know what Sleeper,these guys don't know your car. They are more so into paper racing. The man's E55 is NOT Stck!!!! Don't you guys read!

I say Venom bring the Viper out,meet Sleeper X and we'll set it up! End of talk!! Plain and simple in the vid Sleeper man waxes both the Viper and the Ferrari. End of story until proven otherwise. Jeeez!
Appreciate your opinion but me and Sleeper X were just having interesting convo. Didn't appear to be any trash talking...at least I didn't think so.
Paper racing I bet I am competitive for the most life time drags on this forum. My stock SRT-10 runs 11.7 @123mph, on run craps. Have any STOCK E55's run that time? Like I said, I have a strong one from the factory.Since then I have bolted on some minor mods.
I am also fairly experienced in driving the car. As far as that paper racing comment (still laughing) I could be found at E-town almost every other week. Benefits of being only 25minutes from the track.
Have not dragged the Viper yet this year...still having fun with the E63. Still not convinced of my baseline times though. Last several runs were all in the 12.6 114 area.
Will be trying something different this week.
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I could attest to that....the car is truly a beast, It is aggresively quick of the line. No BS... I don't know but i smell E-town this saturday, what do you guys say....I will need a helmet though there is no way in hell I am paying $120 for that piece of eggshell..
Every week someone tries to set up an E-town trip but it always falls thru...and I am usually the sole E55/E63 representative. Would certainly appreciate a get together to share drag stories and talk shop. If anybody has been to E-town lately it is being over-run by little ricers...and of course Vettes..but that has always been the case.
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