W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

So how many people actually bought their E55/E63 in cash?

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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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If you can afford it, whether new or used, cash is best...
Lease would be my second option


It's nice to *own* "your" car
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Old May 29, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Do the analysis folks. For the most part, leasing is A LOT less expensive if you like to own a new car every 2 to 3 years, particularly when it comes to expensive luxury cars, as they lose their value so abruptly. Sure, look at the popular sources for used cars (autotrader for example) and you think you’re okay relative to resale. However, actually trying to sell at those prices does not happen. If you want to own your car for a long time, then buy it. If you’re like most of use and like new cars every two or three years, you’re stupid if you don’t lease as you’re going to lose money if you buy…
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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Do the analysis folks. For the most part, leasing is A LOT less expensive if you like to own a new car every 2 to 3 years, particularly when it comes to expensive luxury cars, as they lose their value so abruptly. Sure, look at the popular sources for used cars (autotrader for example) and you think you’re okay relative to resale. However, actually trying to sell at those prices does not happen. If you want to own your car for a long time, then buy it. If you’re like most of use and like new cars every two or three years, you’re stupid if you don’t lease as you’re going to lose money if you buy…
I always pay cash and own my vehicles outright from the get-go. Sometimes it's not the most sensible as I chop and change my car every 24 months but it's what I like to do.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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paid off but wish it wasn't. Probably the last time I will ever pay off a car of this caliber. Makes a lot more sense to lease and write it off.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
paid off but wish it wasn't. Probably the last time I will ever pay off a car of this caliber. Makes a lot more sense to lease and write it off.
And have the extra cash to invest.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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I breed spider monkeys which is very lucrative.

Paying cash was a no brainer.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Just wondering if most people pay cash, lease or buy over a 5 year term. I am fortunate enough to have bought my car in cash, of course it was only $50K If I can't buy a car out right I feel as if I should not be driving it, but that's just me.
My seller, gave discount for cash.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K6E55
How do you live in the US w/out a SS #?

I used to buy all my previous cars and pay in cash but leasing them make better sense now.
im not a US citizen and only here for short period of time(2 years). I just got my professional degree.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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I breed spider monkeys which is very lucrative.

Paying cash was a no brainer.
Have you tried Howler monkeys?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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From Florida? Sheeeesh, you'd better get out to Cally, if you wanna make AMG money.
Are you offering franchise opportunities at this time?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Are you offering franchise opportunities at this time?

Dude, its a tough market out here. Customers are all educated and picky. New guys always trying to get in and all. You'd better think twice before leaving the Florida style behind.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
paid off but wish it wasn't. Probably the last time I will ever pay off a car of this caliber. Makes a lot more sense to lease and write it off.
We're going to work with you on getting that money back in your pockets.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Would you lease and modify the heck out of it?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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even though i dont, i think purchasing cash is always wise.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dsc
Would you lease and modify the heck out of it?
I do, but then again, I usually negotiate out of my car before the lease ends. Permanent mods may get you stuck on owning it in the end. I've never ended up having a residual that is much more (if any) than the current value, but that may happen with this one.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Went for the lease......

I leased mine. I am very busy so don't want to invest a bunch of time selling the car later. I do want the freedom to look at the availability of the E63TT in 2-3 years. If I want to buy the car I can always negotiate a reduction with MB Financial in the residual. They definitely do not want the car back at the end of the lease. I will start watching the auctions closely and this forum for the values as my lease gets close to expiring. Buying one of these cars and keeping it for many years is hard to imagine.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Cash is always more economic. Do you actually think you know the resale market better than the dealer or leasing company? And if your rationale is alternative investment opportunities, borrow the money (use a home equity loan and you can even deduct the interest) and the payment on the loan will be cheaper than your lease payments after factoring in resale value. Cash is ALWAYS cheaper than leasing.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Coalman
Cash is always more economic. Do you actually think you know the resale market better than the dealer or leasing company? And if your rationale is alternative investment opportunities, borrow the money (use a home equity loan and you can even deduct the interest) and the payment on the loan will be cheaper than your lease payments after factoring in resale value. Cash is ALWAYS cheaper than leasing.
Since no one knows what interest rates will do in the future, nor what the auto resale market will be like in X years, or what kind of accidents you might get into, it's impossible to say that one or the other will turn out to be cheaper. Throw in the mileage variable for another unknown.

IF you assume interest rates won't go up AND resale in three or so years will be what you think it will be AND you don't get into an accident that diminishes that resale THEN it might be a bit cheaper to buy (leaving aside leasing for business purposes). I always bought my cars but I don't drive very many miles, I DON'T like trying to sell them and I am VERY risk averse and afraid of an accident that diminishes resale value so I leased my E63. Cold calculation says it will turn out to be a few thousand more expensive than cash but I'll take the hit for the extra level of security.

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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Coalman
Cash is always more economic. Do you actually think you know the resale market better than the dealer or leasing company? And if your rationale is alternative investment opportunities, borrow the money (use a home equity loan and you can even deduct the interest) and the payment on the loan will be cheaper than your lease payments after factoring in resale value. Cash is ALWAYS cheaper than leasing.
Why not lease and use the line of equity to pay the payments. Then, take the lump sum and invest it. I don't have all of my equity in my house. I use some of it to buy investment properties. Your ALWAYS coment is simply not accurate. Each person is on a different economic path and there are benefits of leasing and buying for every person. Personally, I am at an aggressive stage in my investing, so I am basically maximizing my long term loans (using the current low interest). Any decent move makes up for the interest on money these days. The only key (and it is a big one) is not to get stuck with the hot potatoe in the end.

While we are making absolute statements,
ALWAYS buy and sell WHEN you WANT to, not when you HAVE to.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Leasing is just another form of borrowing, so the decision should be based the the lowest "effective" cost of borrowing. How you intend to invest your money makes no difference at all.

If you buy a $100,000 car with a lease, you can invest the $100,000 you would have paid into whatever. If you borrow $100,000 to pay for the car, you can take the same $100,000 and invest it in the same whatever. The only difference is that you are trading loan payments less resale at the end of the hunt for lease payments. Both are viewed as debt (ie fixed payment obligations) by lenders.

The comments above on the potential for accidents impairing resale, etc. are well taken. But how much are you willing to pay for insurance?
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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A foornote to above. It is true that no one knows what interest rates will do. But whether you lease or borrow money, you will be locking into whatever the market rates of interest are at that time so the fact that rates will change makes no difference.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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This is interesting....

Coalman, let's say you have $100K to spend, which one of the following hypothetical scenarios would you choose?

Scenario A:
Buy $100K car
2 years later, sell it for $70K
You lose: $30K

Scenario B:
Lease $100K car: $0 down $833/mo
+ Put $100K investment (annual return 10%)
2 years later:
- You will have spent $40K on the car ($10K more cost on ownership)
- You will gain $20K from investment (non-compounded interest for simplicity sake).

So Scenario B will leave you w/ more money ($80K vs. $70K in Scenario A).

My point is that while it is true paying cash is always cheaper than leasing/financing, it MAY NOT be the best decision to always paying cash.
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