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Old 06-02-2007, 08:18 AM
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
EvilEmpires Audi S4TT Wagon vs E60 M5

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_jQuFhfWy-I

Who says AWD's can't run upstairs.

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Old 06-02-2007, 09:29 AM
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Great video man!

So, you still wanna try out your modded Talon vs EvilEmpire's S4? lol
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Great video man!

So, you still wanna try out your modded Talon vs EvilEmpire's S4? lol
Yep! Absolutely!!! Not a worry at all over here! His victory does not surprise me at all vs the M5. Modded E55 is a different story since he thinks he'll give those a run for the $$. I have to give him credit though his car runs very well!
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Very nice!!! Man those S4's just reeled the M5 in....super nice, heheheheh
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Just the sound of that M5 makes me want to buy one.

The first few races had the M5 covered,but the last few races,the M5 held its own.
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same here..


looks like the higher speeds.. the M5 was keeping the lead and not letting the S4 (RS4 mods) pass..

can jump to conclusions here.. maybe the Evilempire could chime in.

i'm not surprised under 100mph the M5 gets beat.. over 100 is a different story.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
same here..


looks like the higher speeds.. the M5 was keeping the lead and not letting the S4 (RS4 mods) pass..

can jump to conclusions here.. maybe the Evilempire could chime in.

i'm not surprised under 100mph the M5 gets beat.. over 100 is a different story.
there were 2 different s4's
one stage 3, the other stage 4.

the stage 4 killed the m5 at all speeds

very well tuned cars
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there were 2 different s4's
one stage 3, the other stage 4.

the stage 4 killed the m5 at all speeds

very well tuned cars
Thanx for the clarification!
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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
Thanx for the clarification!
no problem
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EvilEmpires's Audi will run away from any stock M5, E55/63 and most modded E55's. I've seen his car at the track. He trapped 8 mph more than me even though he was having clutch problems.
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Originally Posted by vader
Wicked little MF !
thats gotta be an understatement of the century, at least a decade
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More clarification. The s4's were all well modified, running race gas, have upgraded turbos and 20+psi of boost. Anthony's M5 is on crappy 91 octane, stock engine, aftermarket mufflers. No software, no intake.
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Originally Posted by OUTLAW///M3 SMG
More clarification. The s4's were all well modified, running race gas, have upgraded turbos and 20+psi of boost. Anthony's M5 is on crappy 91 octane, stock engine, aftermarket mufflers. No software, no intake.
im pretty sure we knew they were all modified.

they also have almost half of the displacement of the m5 motor and HALF the hp stock.
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Yea and about HALF the weight too. Not trying to take anything away from the s4's. They are very impressive!! But on race gas too. Just make sure everyone knows the TRUTH.

Race gas, 20+psi boost, light weight, upgraded twin turbos, ecu tune, and whatever else done to the motor. Or a bone stock M5 on full tank of pump gas, and a pair of mufflers.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

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Originally Posted by OUTLAW///M3 SMG
Yea and about HALF the weight too. Not trying to take anything away from the s4's. They are very impressive!! But on race gas too. Just make sure everyone knows the TRUTH.

Race gas, 20+psi boost, light weight, upgraded twin turbos, ecu tune, and whatever else done to the motor. Or a bone stock M5 on full tank of pump gas, and a pair of mufflers.

BIG DIFFERENCE.
go look up the weights of the cars and get back to me
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I agree with outlaw and not trying to take anything away from the competition, they sure as hell are quick but not to much to compare, it was brave of the M5 even to step up to the challenge, they did hold their own....at least with the stage 3, lol. The stage 4 has to be pushing at least 500+ to the wheels to walk him that way above 100 mph, very nice machines indeed.
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Originally Posted by OUTLAW///M3 SMG
More clarification. The s4's were all well modified, running race gas, have upgraded turbos and 20+psi of boost. Anthony's M5 is on crappy 91 octane, stock engine, aftermarket mufflers. No software, no intake.
Ohhhhh,so thats what those stages mean.


Originally Posted by OUTLAW///M3 SMG
Yea and about HALF the weight too. Not trying to take anything away from the s4's. They are very impressive!! But on race gas too. Just make sure everyone knows the TRUTH.

Race gas, 20+psi boost, light weight, upgraded twin turbos, ecu tune, and whatever else done to the motor. Or a bone stock M5 on full tank of pump gas, and a pair of mufflers.

BIG DIFFERENCE.
With a half tank of race gas he should have been twice as fast then.
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Good vid.

I would buy an M5 for the sound alone. Next to a Ferrari v12 or CGT, that is one of the best sounding engines in the world.
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When AMG_55 talks about 2 cars. And conveniently leaves out some MAJOR details like running RACE GAS and 20+psi of BOOST vs Stock NA. Some people may get the wrong idea. Lets just stick to the facts. Happy motoring guys!!

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Originally Posted by OUTLAW///M3 SMG
If you actually believe what you just spouted. You should just shoot yourself.

Why dont you grow up and drop that condescending attitude. Were trying to have a civilized conversation about some very quick cars. Untill then you will be ignored.
All that coming from a person who had to explain to us that the S4's were modifed?

Quit,your hurting my feelings.
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Originally Posted by L8Apex
Good vid.

I would buy an M5 for the sound alone. Next to a Ferrari v12 or CGT, that is one of the best sounding engines in the world.

Theres was a youtube clip floating around in here,that had an M5 with a great sounding exhaust making some runs on the autobahn I believe.I agree,those cars sound amazing with the right exhaust on them.
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Big difference between pump gas and race gas. I wonder how well they would fair on 91 octane?

Jrocket Get of my nuts dude. Have some dignity.
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Originally Posted by OUTLAW///M3 SMG
Big difference between pump gas and race gas. I wonder how well they would fair on 91 octane?

Jrocket Get of my nuts dude. Have some dignity.
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I agree with outlaw and not trying to take anything away from the competition, they sure as hell are quick but not to much to compare, it was brave of the M5 even to step up to the challenge, they did hold their own....at least with the stage 3, lol. The stage 4 has to be pushing at least 500+ to the wheels to walk him that way above 100 mph, very nice machines indeed.
But Jody the fact still remains that the car(S4) weighs perhaps only 3 to 400 lbs less than the M5,has 1/2 the displacement,4 less cylinders, and would have to be modded in order to run with the M5. Yes it's running 20psi + rumored race fuel,(which I don't see why unless it has higher cp pistons) But still impressive non-the -less the way the M5 was beat. Even Gustav tried to claim that the aftermarket rims were perhaps slowing down the "M" because he refused to believe what he was seeing. So as far as he was concerned ,put on the stck rims, and those modded S4's would perhaps not have a chance vs a stck M5.

So I agree with AMG_55!!!

As of right now there is not a modded M5 that runs high 11's(12.0@120mph was the fastest I've seen posted modded M5(Keitha)) without spraying and these modded S4's already run 11's.

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