E55 = C6 Z06: What's it take?
#126
Here's an example of what a Z06 would do to an SL65 much less an E55. I have a Z06 and i've raced 2 E55s. From 2cnd gear on the highway at 60-140 is about 2 or 3 bus lengths. WHen mine was stock it easily beat Murcielagos, GT2s and slightly beat my buddies Ford GT. I ran a best of 11.2@127. Got kicked off the track after 2 passes each day. I'venever even made 5 passes in a row in the car. Now that I have headers and a tune it's devistatingly quick. Here's a screen shot of my timer when doing the Texas Mile race. You'd really have to alot of mods to even make it close with equal drivers.
My 0-186(300km/h) was like 30.1.
My 0-186(300km/h) was like 30.1.
#127
As far as the race, it was a blast. It is always a great time meeting up with Les. The race was to be expected. One car (Z06) is making 460 rwhp at 3100 lbs and the other is making 490 rwhp and is 4000 lbs (Amg)
I will post the video tomorrow when I wake up (If I ever wake up, lol)..
#128
Hey guys, sorry for the wait. I was out all night tonight as Friday's and Saturday's are the only nights I can have fun before heading back to work for the whole week.
As far as the race, it was a blast. It is always a great time meeting up with Les. The race was to be expected. One car (Z06) is making 460 rwhp at 3100 lbs and the other is making 490 rwhp and is 4000 lbs (Amg)
I will post the video tomorrow when I wake up (If I ever wake up, lol)..
As far as the race, it was a blast. It is always a great time meeting up with Les. The race was to be expected. One car (Z06) is making 460 rwhp at 3100 lbs and the other is making 490 rwhp and is 4000 lbs (Amg)
I will post the video tomorrow when I wake up (If I ever wake up, lol)..
#129
Thanks for coming out Les. See you again soon..
#130
I am sure you get my point..Good night..
#131
And I have personally beat a SRT-10 Viper in my 340 rwhp 2001 Z06 (And have a video of it) from a 40-140 roll. What does that prove? Nothing, other than the fact that the Viper driver needs to pass that car on to someone that knows how to drive..
I am sure you get my point..Good night..
I am sure you get my point..Good night..
#132
And I have personally beat a SRT-10 Viper in my 340 rwhp 2001 Z06 (And have a video of it) from a 40-140 roll. What does that prove? Nothing, other than the fact that the Viper driver needs to pass that car on to someone that knows how to drive..
I am sure you get my point..Good night..
I am sure you get my point..Good night..
However, I am fairly certain the two drivers (Z06 and GT2) are very skilled and have performed numerous roll on races. This race was performed at a location where roll ons are performed regularly.
Then again, I don't know what mods the GT2 had.
#133
Hey guys I did my best last night and the races were great. Fadi is real class act and this is how the night went...also a big thanks to Jason from MB Productions doing my video shooting professionaly and Fadi also had a camera so it should be great to watch the evening:
E55(ESP on) vs. 06 Z06(zlicious) 30-120mph
I was in first gear and we both got off the 3rd honk equaly no one getting the jump. Z pulls almost immediatly never looking back so as the vids will show this truely is a mismatch of power to weight. By the end of first gear Z by a car and still pulling, at the top of second into 3rd 3-4 cars and by fourth well bus legnth measurements are now to be taken.
E55(ESP off) vs ZO6(zlicious) 55-145mph
I was in second and again a clean pull of the honk and it seemed like the same thing happend as the first race. Allthough this time cause we went higher in speed the Z really showed its p/w advantage...again bus legnths.
E55(ESP off) vs Impala Turbo(traps 120ish in the qtr) 40-120mph(two races)
I got the jumpon the 3rd honk mainly due to the large turbo in the Impala and its lag. I pulled pretty quickly and we had two races that show that I due pull him pretty nicely.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 45-120ish
Clean off the honk and dead even for a split second then I begin to pull...by the end of the first race I think I had it by 3-4 cars...but from memory it may have been more...the vid will showit better.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 55-120ish
Same as last race off the line as it seems Z did better at first and then I begin to pull pretty well...unfortunatly Z misses 4th so race ends prematurely...but you guys can see what happens from the first race.
All in all a great evening with great guys! The cars looked great and ran strong. But as I stated in post #3 on page one of this thread....stage 5 renntech and maybe a 100shot are needed to have a prayer against the new Z. I would also do the following to give the E a drivers chance: Weight savings of 500 pounds is in need as my E55 weighs 4300 or so pounds so no matter what torque you can generate it still is not enough against the Z's power to weight. I think that if any of the stage 5's run into a Z try to get them from a dig and make sure your car has drag radials and only race to 120mph....after that it gets ugly! Thanks everyone who came out last night and I wish more guys out there could be as classy as Fadi in racing and I dont think there were any suprises. We just wanted to give you guys and gals tangible evidence as to it is what it is...and I hope you enjoy. I know once my camera guy digitizes the footage we can post it after a little editing to make more watchable for the entertainment factor. So stay tunned. I know Fadi will prolly just post his raw footage first and just know that there is more to come after that airs.
E55(ESP on) vs. 06 Z06(zlicious) 30-120mph
I was in first gear and we both got off the 3rd honk equaly no one getting the jump. Z pulls almost immediatly never looking back so as the vids will show this truely is a mismatch of power to weight. By the end of first gear Z by a car and still pulling, at the top of second into 3rd 3-4 cars and by fourth well bus legnth measurements are now to be taken.
E55(ESP off) vs ZO6(zlicious) 55-145mph
I was in second and again a clean pull of the honk and it seemed like the same thing happend as the first race. Allthough this time cause we went higher in speed the Z really showed its p/w advantage...again bus legnths.
E55(ESP off) vs Impala Turbo(traps 120ish in the qtr) 40-120mph(two races)
I got the jumpon the 3rd honk mainly due to the large turbo in the Impala and its lag. I pulled pretty quickly and we had two races that show that I due pull him pretty nicely.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 45-120ish
Clean off the honk and dead even for a split second then I begin to pull...by the end of the first race I think I had it by 3-4 cars...but from memory it may have been more...the vid will showit better.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 55-120ish
Same as last race off the line as it seems Z did better at first and then I begin to pull pretty well...unfortunatly Z misses 4th so race ends prematurely...but you guys can see what happens from the first race.
All in all a great evening with great guys! The cars looked great and ran strong. But as I stated in post #3 on page one of this thread....stage 5 renntech and maybe a 100shot are needed to have a prayer against the new Z. I would also do the following to give the E a drivers chance: Weight savings of 500 pounds is in need as my E55 weighs 4300 or so pounds so no matter what torque you can generate it still is not enough against the Z's power to weight. I think that if any of the stage 5's run into a Z try to get them from a dig and make sure your car has drag radials and only race to 120mph....after that it gets ugly! Thanks everyone who came out last night and I wish more guys out there could be as classy as Fadi in racing and I dont think there were any suprises. We just wanted to give you guys and gals tangible evidence as to it is what it is...and I hope you enjoy. I know once my camera guy digitizes the footage we can post it after a little editing to make more watchable for the entertainment factor. So stay tunned. I know Fadi will prolly just post his raw footage first and just know that there is more to come after that airs.
#134
Hey guys I did my best last night and the races were great. Fadi is real class act and this is how the night went...also a big thanks to Jason from MB Productions doing my video shooting professionaly and Fadi also had a camera so it should be great to watch the evening:
E55(ESP on) vs. 06 Z06(zlicious) 30-120mph
I was in first gear and we both got off the 3rd honk equaly no one getting the jump. Z pulls almost immediatly never looking back so as the vids will show this truely is a mismatch of power to weight. By the end of first gear Z by a car and still pulling, at the top of second into 3rd 3-4 cars and by fourth well bus legnth measurements are now to be taken.
E55(ESP off) vs ZO6(zlicious) 55-145mph
I was in second and again a clean pull of the honk and it seemed like the same thing happend as the first race. Allthough this time cause we went higher in speed the Z really showed its p/w advantage...again bus legnths.
E55(ESP off) vs Impala Turbo(traps 120ish in the qtr) 40-120mph(two races)
I got the jumpon the 3rd honk mainly due to the large turbo in the Impala and its lag. I pulled pretty quickly and we had two races that show that I due pull him pretty nicely.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 45-120ish
Clean off the honk and dead even for a split second then I begin to pull...by the end of the first race I think I had it by 3-4 cars...but from memory it may have been more...the vid will showit better.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 55-120ish
Same as last race off the line as it seems Z did better at first and then I begin to pull pretty well...unfortunatly Z misses 4th so race ends prematurely...but you guys can see what happens from the first race.
All in all a great evening with great guys! The cars looked great and ran strong. But as I stated in post #3 on page one of this thread....stage 5 renntech and maybe a 100shot are needed to have a prayer against the new Z. I would also do the following to give the E a drivers chance: Weight savings of 500 pounds is in need as my E55 weighs 4300 or so pounds so no matter what torque you can generate it still is not enough against the Z's power to weight. I think that if any of the stage 5's run into a Z try to get them from a dig and make sure your car has drag radials and only race to 120mph....after that it gets ugly! Thanks everyone who came out last night and I wish more guys out there could be as classy as Fadi in racing and I dont think there were any suprises. We just wanted to give you guys and gals tangible evidence as to it is what it is...and I hope you enjoy. I know once my camera guy digitizes the footage we can post it after a little editing to make more watchable for the entertainment factor. So stay tunned. I know Fadi will prolly just post his raw footage first and just know that there is more to come after that airs.
E55(ESP on) vs. 06 Z06(zlicious) 30-120mph
I was in first gear and we both got off the 3rd honk equaly no one getting the jump. Z pulls almost immediatly never looking back so as the vids will show this truely is a mismatch of power to weight. By the end of first gear Z by a car and still pulling, at the top of second into 3rd 3-4 cars and by fourth well bus legnth measurements are now to be taken.
E55(ESP off) vs ZO6(zlicious) 55-145mph
I was in second and again a clean pull of the honk and it seemed like the same thing happend as the first race. Allthough this time cause we went higher in speed the Z really showed its p/w advantage...again bus legnths.
E55(ESP off) vs Impala Turbo(traps 120ish in the qtr) 40-120mph(two races)
I got the jumpon the 3rd honk mainly due to the large turbo in the Impala and its lag. I pulled pretty quickly and we had two races that show that I due pull him pretty nicely.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 45-120ish
Clean off the honk and dead even for a split second then I begin to pull...by the end of the first race I think I had it by 3-4 cars...but from memory it may have been more...the vid will showit better.
E55(ESP off) vs C5 ZO6(not sure on mods) 55-120ish
Same as last race off the line as it seems Z did better at first and then I begin to pull pretty well...unfortunatly Z misses 4th so race ends prematurely...but you guys can see what happens from the first race.
All in all a great evening with great guys! The cars looked great and ran strong. But as I stated in post #3 on page one of this thread....stage 5 renntech and maybe a 100shot are needed to have a prayer against the new Z. I would also do the following to give the E a drivers chance: Weight savings of 500 pounds is in need as my E55 weighs 4300 or so pounds so no matter what torque you can generate it still is not enough against the Z's power to weight. I think that if any of the stage 5's run into a Z try to get them from a dig and make sure your car has drag radials and only race to 120mph....after that it gets ugly! Thanks everyone who came out last night and I wish more guys out there could be as classy as Fadi in racing and I dont think there were any suprises. We just wanted to give you guys and gals tangible evidence as to it is what it is...and I hope you enjoy. I know once my camera guy digitizes the footage we can post it after a little editing to make more watchable for the entertainment factor. So stay tunned. I know Fadi will prolly just post his raw footage first and just know that there is more to come after that airs.
I am uploading the Impala race right and will post it in about 10 mins..
#137
Z06 vs. E55:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/199043-c6-z06-vs-renntech-e55-amg-video.html
E55 vs. Turbo Impala:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/199046-renntech-e55-amg-vs-turbo-impala-video.html
#139
I really don't understand why a 600hp E55 gets beaten by a stock Z06 so easy. Maybe its the gearing? See this video: Supercharged SLK55 (600hp) vs stock 06 Z06. As you can see, Z06 is not pulling on the SLk55, which has less hp than stage 5 E55. Of course SLK weights like 600lbs-700lbs less, but still...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1
P.S. I can't wait to run some Z06's when my SLK is done... should be next month if all goes well
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1
P.S. I can't wait to run some Z06's when my SLK is done... should be next month if all goes well
#140
What you guys should know about the Z06 is they don't weigh 3150 and they don't have 505hp. In reality when weighed they weigh in at about 3050-3080 and when dynoed they have 530hp assuming a conservative 13% loss. If you use 15% it's more like 550hp. My car dynoed 465hp stock. That's more than 505. Considering A Murcielago dynoes at 430 you can see how the Z is so fast.
#141
I really don't understand why a 600hp E55 gets beaten by a stock Z06 so easy. Maybe its the gearing? See this video: Supercharged SLK55 (600hp) vs stock 06 Z06. As you can see, Z06 is not pulling on the SLk55, which has less hp than stage 5 E55. Of course SLK weights like 600lbs-700lbs less, but still...
#142
#143
I really don't understand why a 600hp E55 gets beaten by a stock Z06 so easy. Maybe its the gearing? See this video: Supercharged SLK55 (600hp) vs stock 06 Z06. As you can see, Z06 is not pulling on the SLk55, which has less hp than stage 5 E55. Of course SLK weights like 600lbs-700lbs less, but still...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1
P.S. I can't wait to run some Z06's when my SLK is done... should be next month if all goes well
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1
P.S. I can't wait to run some Z06's when my SLK is done... should be next month if all goes well
SLK55:
3500 lbs, 600 bhp
3500 / 600 = 5.8 lb/hp
Z06:
3100 lbs, 505 bhp
3100 / 505 = 6.1 lb/hp
So, the Benz has a slight better power/weight ratio, but the Z06 took advantage of its aero and gearing and the race makes complete sense. A pretty much even race between the two.
Now work out the numbers the same way with the E55 AMG and you will see why what happened did happen. It is ok though, because they are completely two different cars that shouldn't even be compared. But the fact that the Benz is being compared to one of the fastest cars out right now, that says a lot about the AMG..