CLS55 Kleemann or ECU?
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CLS55 Kleemann or ECU?
Hi Guys first post for this newbie.
I'm considering going for the Kleemann Stage2 package with LSD. Should run for about $10K.
OR
I could go for a company that does ECU remapping for $1K but produces 548hp.
So the numbers are about the same, but the costs isn't. The ECU is very reputable in Europe (where I live).
Would splashing the extra $9K for Kleemann make such a huge difference?
I'm considering going for the Kleemann Stage2 package with LSD. Should run for about $10K.
OR
I could go for a company that does ECU remapping for $1K but produces 548hp.
So the numbers are about the same, but the costs isn't. The ECU is very reputable in Europe (where I live).
Would splashing the extra $9K for Kleemann make such a huge difference?
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European company called http://www.digitune.nl/2006mbcls55amg476.htm
But there are several reputable European companies who claim to get anywhere from 45-75hp gain just by an ECU remap.
But there are several reputable European companies who claim to get anywhere from 45-75hp gain just by an ECU remap.
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Hi Guys first post for this newbie.
I'm considering going for the Kleemann Stage2 package with LSD. Should run for about $10K.
OR
I could go for a company that does ECU remapping for $1K but produces 548hp.
So the numbers are about the same, but the costs isn't. The ECU is very reputable in Europe (where I live).
Would splashing the extra $9K for Kleemann make such a huge difference?
I'm considering going for the Kleemann Stage2 package with LSD. Should run for about $10K.
OR
I could go for a company that does ECU remapping for $1K but produces 548hp.
So the numbers are about the same, but the costs isn't. The ECU is very reputable in Europe (where I live).
Would splashing the extra $9K for Kleemann make such a huge difference?
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European company called http://www.digitune.nl/2006mbcls55amg476.htm
But there are several reputable European companies who claim to get anywhere from 45-75hp gain just by an ECU remap.
But there are several reputable European companies who claim to get anywhere from 45-75hp gain just by an ECU remap.
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European company called http://www.digitune.nl/2006mbcls55amg476.htm
But there are several reputable European companies who claim to get anywhere from 45-75hp gain just by an ECU remap.
But there are several reputable European companies who claim to get anywhere from 45-75hp gain just by an ECU remap.
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Common sense should tell you that the only way to get 80hp from CLS55 is by either increasing boost via aftermarket pulley, or drastically improving air flow with headers, exhaust system, larger TB, etc.
You don't really need an LSD, just go for kleemann stage 1 (pulley + ecu), its only around 3,000$ if I remember correctly. Then if you're not happy with the power, you can add headers.
You don't really need an LSD, just go for kleemann stage 1 (pulley + ecu), its only around 3,000$ if I remember correctly. Then if you're not happy with the power, you can add headers.
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Yes, common sense makes me question this ECU "update".
However, there are loads of European reputable companies that claim the same increases. However, they all do not include the pully. So perhaps that's the bottleneck?
Let me also refraise my question. Is the increase in power from Stage 1 to Stage 4 worth all the extra cash? Is it really noticable?
However, there are loads of European reputable companies that claim the same increases. However, they all do not include the pully. So perhaps that's the bottleneck?
Let me also refraise my question. Is the increase in power from Stage 1 to Stage 4 worth all the extra cash? Is it really noticable?
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Yes, common sense makes me question this ECU "update".
However, there are loads of European reputable companies that claim the same increases. However, they all do not include the pully. So perhaps that's the bottleneck?
Let me also refraise my question. Is the increase in power from Stage 1 to Stage 4 worth all the extra cash? Is it really noticable?
However, there are loads of European reputable companies that claim the same increases. However, they all do not include the pully. So perhaps that's the bottleneck?
Let me also refraise my question. Is the increase in power from Stage 1 to Stage 4 worth all the extra cash? Is it really noticable?
.....European tuners like digitec and dms make some wild claims...but that's all they are....wild.
Stage 2 is probably the best package to get, which would be ECU, Pulley and Headers.
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Exactly the kind of reply I was waiting (hoping) for!
There are indeed a lot of these chiptune companies making the boldest of claims. I would expect something else from a reputable tuner like Kleemann.
I'm still deciding between Stage 2 or 3 with the extra LSD and/or camshaft.
There are indeed a lot of these chiptune companies making the boldest of claims. I would expect something else from a reputable tuner like Kleemann.
I'm still deciding between Stage 2 or 3 with the extra LSD and/or camshaft.
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Exactly the kind of reply I was waiting (hoping) for!
There are indeed a lot of these chiptune companies making the boldest of claims. I would expect something else from a reputable tuner like Kleemann.
I'm still deciding between Stage 2 or 3 with the extra LSD and/or camshaft.
There are indeed a lot of these chiptune companies making the boldest of claims. I would expect something else from a reputable tuner like Kleemann.
I'm still deciding between Stage 2 or 3 with the extra LSD and/or camshaft.
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i don't know about the kleemann cams but two members here have posted dynos for slr cams.
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I don't know the post title but you can search my post history for cam only dyno results. i'll look later if you can't find it. sorry i don't remember the other member that posted dyno results but i KNOW they're here somewhere.
