Track Day at MIR - 10/08/07
#151
So if I don't burnout I won't get that s**t all over my car? Thx.
#152
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2006 C55 AMG, 2.8L Quattro, Softail Nostalgia 1550 (Stage III), Sporster (slammed)
Born and raised. Pulled for 77 in a 55 last week. No ticket. It's funny to see outsiders opinions, Fairfax County blows dead bear but usually for other reasons besides the cops. And the Maryland Troopers are a h*ll of a lot meaner than Va. Troopers. But I have been down the 1/4 mile at MIR a couple hundred times in cars and on bikes. It's a good track and they prep it well. It has real teeth when they lay down the traction compound. There is no shade though and it gets hot. Avoid the food at the 1320 Cafe.
Last edited by Drop-a-Daimler; 09-01-2007 at 08:19 AM.
#153
#154
Born and raised. Pulled for 77 in a 55 last week. No ticket. It's funny to see outsiders opinions, Fairfax County blows dead bear but usually for other reasons besides the cops. And the Maryland Troopers are a h*ll of a lot meaner than Va. Troopers. But I have been down the 1/4 mile at MIR a couple hundred times in cars and on bikes. It's a good track and they prep it well. It has real teeth when they lay down the traction compound. There is no shade though and it gets hot. Avoid the food at the 1320 Cafe.
#156
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From: Northern Virginia
2006 C55 AMG, 2.8L Quattro, Softail Nostalgia 1550 (Stage III), Sporster (slammed)
Yeah! I subscribed to this thread to follow it thinking I might try to get a babysitter and sneak down there to La Plata. It's about an hour and a half drive for me but it's nice cruising. The old one-off C35 has done 13.6@103.9 there but my G-TECH says she's running 2 tenths slower right now and I don't know why. I'd bring my bike but you guys would blow that away too! That's only run a 13.4 at MIR. But I am going to try to be there. Can you pay at the track or does it have to be pre-paid?
Last edited by Drop-a-Daimler; 09-01-2007 at 09:25 AM.
#157
I buy from a local speed shop, but lots of places have it online. I have ordered it from summit before http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...0&autoview=sku
#158
Yeah! I subscribed to this thread to follow it thinking I might try to get a babysitter and sneak down there to La Plata. It's about an hour and a half drive for me but it's nice cruising. The old one-off C35 has done 13.6@103.9 there but my G-TECH says she's running 2 tenths slower right now and I don't know why. I'd bring my bike but you guys would blow that away too! That's only run a 13.4 at MIR. But I am going to try to be there. Can you pay at the track or does it have to be pre-paid?
BTW, Fairfax is by far the worst. Maryland will not put someone in jail for going 90 in a 65. Fairfax will in a heartbeat. Reckless is not a misdemeanor in MD and does not stay on your record for 11 years. It also doesnt carry any civil fines. I dont see how you think MD is worse. You are the first person I've ever heard say that MD is worse. Just sit by the GW bridge and watch people cross into MD, everyone goes faster as soon as you cross the bridge. Its the opposite going into VA.
Last edited by blackbenzz; 09-01-2007 at 10:31 AM.
#159
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2006 C55 AMG, 2.8L Quattro, Softail Nostalgia 1550 (Stage III), Sporster (slammed)
#160
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'03 E55, Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Ducati 748R
#161
Yep,that works too.I spray the inside of the wheel weels with armorall,and the lower bumper panels with spray detailer wax.It all comes over very easy anyway.Just wipe your lower bumper cover panels off after each run,no biggie.
#162
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From: Northern Virginia
2006 C55 AMG, 2.8L Quattro, Softail Nostalgia 1550 (Stage III), Sporster (slammed)
#163
Update Paid:
1. rflow306- quickest/fastest E55
2. Pcam- E55
3. xabo- E63
4. 9Eleven- modded GT2
5. ProjectC55- W202 with a 55 engine
6. Sleeper X- modded E55
7. PTE- modded CLK55
8. Tech-Tune- HPS SL500
9. Mertd93- HPS SL500
10. WayneE- Twin turbo C5 vette
11. E55Jay- quickest/fastest 600 (CL600)
12. 330i zhp- s/c 330i zhp
13. DJE55- modded E55
14. Neal- 1970 Mercury Cyclone
15. Stephen04E55- quickest/fastest S600
16. Franksupra- big single turbo supra
17. MIG-E55Rocket- Modded E55
18. AMG Rider- Modded E55
19. CAP- modded C55
20. clkBLACK08- CLK55 or CLK63 Black Series
21. E55baller- modded E55
22. Xios3- E55
23. Xios3- 911 4S
24. C32Vroom- modded C32
25. Cardcounter- Turbo 328i
26. George at ICS- Turbo M3 and tt m coupe
28. TranS4M- modded S4
29. Pablo4.2- E63 030
30. Cohare- modded 996TT
32. Jamie- C6 Z06 and Ford GT
34. Blackbenzz- modded CLK55
1. rflow306- quickest/fastest E55
2. Pcam- E55
3. xabo- E63
4. 9Eleven- modded GT2
5. ProjectC55- W202 with a 55 engine
6. Sleeper X- modded E55
7. PTE- modded CLK55
8. Tech-Tune- HPS SL500
9. Mertd93- HPS SL500
10. WayneE- Twin turbo C5 vette
11. E55Jay- quickest/fastest 600 (CL600)
12. 330i zhp- s/c 330i zhp
13. DJE55- modded E55
14. Neal- 1970 Mercury Cyclone
15. Stephen04E55- quickest/fastest S600
16. Franksupra- big single turbo supra
17. MIG-E55Rocket- Modded E55
18. AMG Rider- Modded E55
19. CAP- modded C55
20. clkBLACK08- CLK55 or CLK63 Black Series
21. E55baller- modded E55
22. Xios3- E55
23. Xios3- 911 4S
24. C32Vroom- modded C32
25. Cardcounter- Turbo 328i
26. George at ICS- Turbo M3 and tt m coupe
28. TranS4M- modded S4
29. Pablo4.2- E63 030
30. Cohare- modded 996TT
32. Jamie- C6 Z06 and Ford GT
34. Blackbenzz- modded CLK55
#164
I've been asked to find a nice hotel in the area for everyone to stay. I dont think there is a "nice" hotel anywhere near MIR. I live 80 miles away from MIR. I will look into different hotels and pricing and let you guys know what I come up with.
#165
ask about groupe rates! they always give discounts.
#166
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'09 CLK550, '21 Camaro ZL1 1LE, '06 C55 AMG, '20 AMG GT53, 09 E63
my buddy from my Rotary club just purchased an '06 CL600 with 10K miles and may decide to come to MIR. I told him that I would not let it rest and I am going to pester him until he commits.
#167
stay on him to come man, Id loooove to see a stock 600 run, we can lend him our drag radials for some runs
#169
We are on the case. we found a place for $129/night, which is a group rate. We need at least 10 rooms to get this rate. I will PM you the location. Rather not post the location on the internet.
#170
One of my friends has offered to let us leave our cars in his backyard sunday night and he lives reasonably close to the track. I will just throw options out there and you guys tell me what you wanna do
How many people need a place to stay?
How many people need a place to stay?
Last edited by blackbenzz; 09-04-2007 at 09:51 PM.
#171
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#174
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From: Northern Virginia
2006 C55 AMG, 2.8L Quattro, Softail Nostalgia 1550 (Stage III), Sporster (slammed)
Just in case nobody has put these up yet, here are a few tips and tricks from what I have learned running at MIR. For those of you who are familiar with the drag strip this primer won't be very helpful. But for those running for the first time, I hope some of these nuggets help.
0. Rule zero is not optional: drive it like you stole it, or drive it like you hate it. Babying your baby at the track is a waste. Don't go if you can't bring yourself to really beat on it. It's a Benz, it can take it and you WILL be quicker.
1. Turn off ESP. If you leave with tons of wheels spin and ESP on it will usually fall on its face at about 10'. If you happen to be lucky enough to have an AMG you may be better off with ESP on and letting the AMG speed shift programming quench the big spin.
2. If you are launching hard and getting a lot of spin try letting 5 or 10 lbs. of air out of your back tires (run 20 to 25 lbs). The wider footprint will hook you up better and doesn't cost too much down the track where a little more traction ads up to additional friction.
3. Launch is everything and your 60' time will dictate what you get down the track. If I run a 2.0 60' I'll do a 13.6, if I do a 2.2 I'll run a 13.8, it's almost directly proportional. Most tracks use traction compound, and MIR uses a lot and has real teeth sometimes, so you will have extra hook-up off the line--more than on the street--so launch harder than you would from a stoplight.
4. If you have an automatic you should launch from a powerbrake. Stage shallow (far back, stop immediately after the "staged" light goes on) and hold your left foot on the brake and your right over the gas. Run it up to 3K quickly and then snap off the brake on the last yellow and mash it past the passing button on the floor. If you spin for 20' that's OK. Sometimes you have to spin to be quick. If you have a mega motor AMG and spin for 100' then launch get on the gas a little slower--keeping some spin but not a smoking burnout--and see #2.
5. If you have a 6-speed then stage deep (close to the trip lights) and run up the RPMs to 3K and feather the clutch out quickly keeping some spin. Practice launching soft and hard and look at the 60' times. Try to get a 1.8 or better seconds 60' time.
6. Drive it through the lights, don't let off until you are well past the traps at the end.
7. Cool it down between runs. Pop your hood. Even ice down the intake if you can. Put a fan on it, whatever you can to get the heat out from underneath the hood.
8. Eat lots of air. Do an air box or at least a K&N or Green filter for the track. Making power down the track requires a high velocity of air coming into the intakes. Cold air is better by far.
9. If you are lucky enough to have a manual then powershift it. See rule zero. It's worth a tenth or even two! No lift shifting is the quickest way down the track. Practice around town. Remember that your tranny can take a little powershifting and even has some RPM sweet spot where it synchs up well and won't make too much racket. Really bang through the gears.
10. Get your car prepared for the track. Ge there with a 1/4 tank, get rid of that subwoofer and the kid's car seats. Leave the spare at home, even use a racing battery. Weight is lost power, lose 100 lbs and it's like making an extra 10hp. Run race gas or a can of 104+ octane booster too. Run on worn tires (not bald though). Brand new tires cost you noticeable horsepower at higher speeds.
0. Rule zero is not optional: drive it like you stole it, or drive it like you hate it. Babying your baby at the track is a waste. Don't go if you can't bring yourself to really beat on it. It's a Benz, it can take it and you WILL be quicker.
1. Turn off ESP. If you leave with tons of wheels spin and ESP on it will usually fall on its face at about 10'. If you happen to be lucky enough to have an AMG you may be better off with ESP on and letting the AMG speed shift programming quench the big spin.
2. If you are launching hard and getting a lot of spin try letting 5 or 10 lbs. of air out of your back tires (run 20 to 25 lbs). The wider footprint will hook you up better and doesn't cost too much down the track where a little more traction ads up to additional friction.
3. Launch is everything and your 60' time will dictate what you get down the track. If I run a 2.0 60' I'll do a 13.6, if I do a 2.2 I'll run a 13.8, it's almost directly proportional. Most tracks use traction compound, and MIR uses a lot and has real teeth sometimes, so you will have extra hook-up off the line--more than on the street--so launch harder than you would from a stoplight.
4. If you have an automatic you should launch from a powerbrake. Stage shallow (far back, stop immediately after the "staged" light goes on) and hold your left foot on the brake and your right over the gas. Run it up to 3K quickly and then snap off the brake on the last yellow and mash it past the passing button on the floor. If you spin for 20' that's OK. Sometimes you have to spin to be quick. If you have a mega motor AMG and spin for 100' then launch get on the gas a little slower--keeping some spin but not a smoking burnout--and see #2.
5. If you have a 6-speed then stage deep (close to the trip lights) and run up the RPMs to 3K and feather the clutch out quickly keeping some spin. Practice launching soft and hard and look at the 60' times. Try to get a 1.8 or better seconds 60' time.
6. Drive it through the lights, don't let off until you are well past the traps at the end.
7. Cool it down between runs. Pop your hood. Even ice down the intake if you can. Put a fan on it, whatever you can to get the heat out from underneath the hood.
8. Eat lots of air. Do an air box or at least a K&N or Green filter for the track. Making power down the track requires a high velocity of air coming into the intakes. Cold air is better by far.
9. If you are lucky enough to have a manual then powershift it. See rule zero. It's worth a tenth or even two! No lift shifting is the quickest way down the track. Practice around town. Remember that your tranny can take a little powershifting and even has some RPM sweet spot where it synchs up well and won't make too much racket. Really bang through the gears.
10. Get your car prepared for the track. Ge there with a 1/4 tank, get rid of that subwoofer and the kid's car seats. Leave the spare at home, even use a racing battery. Weight is lost power, lose 100 lbs and it's like making an extra 10hp. Run race gas or a can of 104+ octane booster too. Run on worn tires (not bald though). Brand new tires cost you noticeable horsepower at higher speeds.
Last edited by Drop-a-Daimler; 09-06-2007 at 11:19 AM.
#175
Nice tips! I have to disagree with a few. Most AMG's cant be launched at 3k rpm (If they can even hold the car still at that rpm). I know a few people who dont turn of their ESP and cut very good/consistent 60's (I am no tone of em). 60' is much more important than the equal decrease in time that you mentioned. The rule of thumb is for every tenth you cut off the 60' you get 1.5-2 tenths on the big end. So master the launch! This is why we have a rental, so you can practice your launch and get it down right! There is a gas station across the street from MIR that sells ice (I remember it being overpriced so ill see what I can do about bringing cooler; Obviously I cant bring enough for 50 cars).
Update Paid:
1. rflow306- quickest/fastest E55
2. Pcam- E55
3. xabo- E63
4. 9Eleven- modded GT2
5. ProjectC55- W202 with a 55 engine
6. Sleeper X- modded E55
7. PTE- modded CLK55
8. Tech-Tune- HPS SL500
9. Mertd93- HPS SL500
10. WayneE- Twin turbo C5 vette
11. E55Jay- quickest/fastest 600 (CL600)
12. 330i zhp- s/c 330i zhp
13. DJE55- C6 Z06
14. Neal- 1970 Mercury Cyclone
15. Stephen04E55- quickest/fastest S600
16. Franksupra- big single turbo supra
17. MIG-E55Rocket- Modded E55
18. AMG Rider- Modded E55
19. CAP- modded C55
20. clkBLACK08- CLK55 or CLK63 Black Series
21. E55baller- modded E55
22. Xios3- E55
23. Xios3- 911 4S
24. C32Vroom- modded C32
25. Cardcounter- Turbo 328i
26. George at ICS- Turbo M3 and tt m coupe
28. TranS4M- modded S4
29. Pablo4.2- E63 030
30. Cohare- modded 996TT
32. Jamie- C6 Z06 and Ford GT
34. deuce zer0 / mrh00nel2 - lil ole subaru
35. Blackbenzz- modded CLK55
Update Paid:
1. rflow306- quickest/fastest E55
2. Pcam- E55
3. xabo- E63
4. 9Eleven- modded GT2
5. ProjectC55- W202 with a 55 engine
6. Sleeper X- modded E55
7. PTE- modded CLK55
8. Tech-Tune- HPS SL500
9. Mertd93- HPS SL500
10. WayneE- Twin turbo C5 vette
11. E55Jay- quickest/fastest 600 (CL600)
12. 330i zhp- s/c 330i zhp
13. DJE55- C6 Z06
14. Neal- 1970 Mercury Cyclone
15. Stephen04E55- quickest/fastest S600
16. Franksupra- big single turbo supra
17. MIG-E55Rocket- Modded E55
18. AMG Rider- Modded E55
19. CAP- modded C55
20. clkBLACK08- CLK55 or CLK63 Black Series
21. E55baller- modded E55
22. Xios3- E55
23. Xios3- 911 4S
24. C32Vroom- modded C32
25. Cardcounter- Turbo 328i
26. George at ICS- Turbo M3 and tt m coupe
28. TranS4M- modded S4
29. Pablo4.2- E63 030
30. Cohare- modded 996TT
32. Jamie- C6 Z06 and Ford GT
34. deuce zer0 / mrh00nel2 - lil ole subaru
35. Blackbenzz- modded CLK55
Last edited by blackbenzz; 09-06-2007 at 01:44 PM.