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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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First passes in '06 E55.

I had a meeting in Philly today and decided to stop by Atco on the way home for a few passes during street night. They also run gamblers on Tuesday, but I was hoping it would be a slow night (I was wrong).
Temp was 84* on my first pass, car was hot off the street after driving 45-minutes with 3/4 tank of gas in it. I teched in, parked in the pit for about 5-minutes and pulled it around to the staging lanes. They started pulling the lanes a few minutes later.
First pass it went 12.47@113.51mph on a 1.942 60 ft. This is on the stock Continentals (which suck) at 35-37psi. Leaving at idle, no preload against the foot brake. On this pass, I ran a C5 Z06 (one of the blue special edition cars). He treed me, but didn't do so well. I was waltzing away from him in the first 60 ft. and it just got worse.
Next pass I brought the tire pressure down a bit, and it was only 15-minutes later...so the car was still hot. I left too hard, and tripped the traction control. It went 12.60 @ 113.72 on a 2.049. Beat the same Z06 again after the driver missed a gear.
Then a pink Monte Carlo broke and drove through barriers at the end of the track and into the woods. One hour cleanup.
Last pass, I left easier against a '99-'01 Cobra with bolt-ons and DR's. He chased taillights and the big Benz went 12.402 @ 113.88 on a 1.931 short time. It spun again and tripped the traction control slightly. Temp on the last pass was still 82*.

All in all, I'm not disappointed. The cars going high-11's/low-12's are doing it on 1.7 60 ft. times and in likely much better air. I need to get the launch down better, and at least into the 1.8's with it, then get some better air later this year.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Nice passes. You'll tighten it up with better 60' times. Have fun!
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
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All in all, I'm not disappointed. The cars going high-11's/low-12's are doing it on 1.7 60 ft. times and in likely much better air. I need to get the launch down better, and at least into the 1.8's with it, then get some better air later this year.
A good start indeed, wait for the cold air of fall and make sure your IC pump is up to it.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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I had a meeting in Philly today and decided to stop by Atco on the way home for a few passes during street night. They also run gamblers on Tuesday, but I was hoping it would be a slow night (I was wrong).
Temp was 84* on my first pass, car was hot off the street after driving 45-minutes with 3/4 tank of gas in it. I teched in, parked in the pit for about 5-minutes and pulled it around to the staging lanes. They started pulling the lanes a few minutes later.
First pass it went 12.47@113.51mph on a 1.942 60 ft. This is on the stock Continentals (which suck) at 35-37psi. Leaving at idle, no preload against the foot brake. On this pass, I ran a C5 Z06 (one of the blue special edition cars). He treed me, but didn't do so well. I was waltzing away from him in the first 60 ft. and it just got worse.
Next pass I brought the tire pressure down a bit, and it was only 15-minutes later...so the car was still hot. I left too hard, and tripped the traction control. It went 12.60 @ 113.72 on a 2.049. Beat the same Z06 again after the driver missed a gear.
Then a pink Monte Carlo broke and drove through barriers at the end of the track and into the woods. One hour cleanup.
Last pass, I left easier against a '99-'01 Cobra with bolt-ons and DR's. He chased taillights and the big Benz went 12.402 @ 113.88 on a 1.931 short time. It spun again and tripped the traction control slightly. Temp on the last pass was still 82*.

All in all, I'm not disappointed. The cars going high-11's/low-12's are doing it on 1.7 60 ft. times and in likely much better air. I need to get the launch down better, and at least into the 1.8's with it, then get some better air later this year.
S.

Good start man, nice job. Lower down to 28psi try and get the 60ft under 1.9
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Senor Snorman!!! Glad to see you on this forum as well. We've spoken a few times on SVTP as I also have a high horsepower Cobra.

Glad to see you're enjoying your Mercedes just as much as the Cobra.

Have fun!

-Aaron

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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What was your launch technique, Snorman? I found 25-26psi in the stock Contis and a "squeeze the trigger" type launch produced the quickest times in my E55.

Congrats on your first passes and don't tell Juiced63 that you only ran 12.4s.

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Great runs, bad air or not.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WayneE
What was your launch technique, Snorman? I found 25-26psi in the stock Contis and a "squeeze the trigger" type launch produced the quickest times in my E55.

Congrats on your first passes and don't tell Juiced63 that you only ran 12.4s.

I was running 26psi in them. I did "squeeze the trigger", but I think I jerked it a bit hard. The traction control light flashed on all three runs, but it spun hard on the 2nd pass.
I'm pretty sure it'll go low-12's in better air with a bit more practice launching.

And 12.4 is still quicker than the quickest E63's, and I didn't even correct my time for DA.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
I was running 26psi in them. I did "squeeze the trigger", but I think I jerked it a bit hard. The traction control light flashed on all three runs, but it spun hard on the 2nd pass.
I'm pretty sure it'll go low-12's in better air with a bit more practice launching.

And 12.4 is still quicker than the quickest E63's, and I didn't even correct my time for DA.
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Your run is not faster than the 63

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-12417.html

he trapped higher and had a lower ET and this was his first pass in the E63 ever.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Though by the slimmest of margins, you are actually wrong.
My best ET was a 12.402 at 113.88 mph.
So while he may have a .3 advantage in trap speed, he did not have a quicker ET. And again, though marginal, the ET on the slip posted is slower than the ET that is listed.
Also, that car had BFG Drag Radials on it.
Tires: 275/35/18 Bfgoodrich Drag T/A

Left from an idle in dyno mode. Shifter in S mode and BFG's at 28 lbs.
Not stock, not faster, no dice.

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Though by the slimmest of margins, you are actually wrong.
My best ET was a 12.402 at 113.88 mph.
So while he may have a .3 advantage in trap speed, he did not have a quicker ET. And again, though marginal, the ET on the slip posted is slower than the ET that is listed.
Also, that car had BFG Drag Radials on it.

Not stock, not faster, no dice.

S.
Man, just drop it you have no credibility here.

Your highly prized times!
Currently Ranked #2 63 Weighing in @ 4625#
#1 fastest quickest CLS63
60 ft =1.699 record in stock 63(LACR)
06/02/2007 12.64@111.8Sacramento
06/16/2007 12.73@113.15Sacramento

Your car is great but you are dragging yourself down with these foolish statements. 12.64 and 12.73 are nothing to brag about so give it a rest.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
I was running 26psi in them. I did "squeeze the trigger", but I think I jerked it a bit hard. The traction control light flashed on all three runs, but it spun hard on the 2nd pass.
I'm pretty sure it'll go low-12's in better air with a bit more practice launching.

And 12.4 is still quicker than the quickest E63's, and I didn't even correct my time for DA.
S.
ooops maybe i should read, good run You are #1 wheres your slip?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by deaguero
Man, just drop it you have no credibility here.

Your highly prized times!
Currently Ranked #2 63 Weighing in @ 4625#
#1 fastest quickest CLS63
60 ft =1.699 record in stock 63(LACR)
06/02/2007 12.64@111.8Sacramento
06/16/2007 12.73@113.15Sacramento

Your car is great but you are dragging yourself down with these foolish statements. 12.64 and 12.73 are nothing to brag about so give it a rest.

What foolish statements? Posting my actual timeslips and record setting times?

How am I bragging?

Just posting my times like everyone else.

Thats some post you crafted, great contributor to the discussion. Thanks for the personal attack

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Though by the slimmest of margins, you are actually wrong.
My best ET was a 12.402 at 113.88 mph.
So while he may have a .3 advantage in trap speed, he did not have a quicker ET. And again, though marginal, the ET on the slip posted is slower than the ET that is listed.
Also, that car had BFG Drag Radials on it.

Not stock, not faster, no dice.

S.


The timeslip he posted in a thread here shows his 12.41@114.1, I would love to see your timeslip and put the two runs side by side. I actually beat him in the race because a near perfect light. You guys ran near identical times, cool.
sorry for jumping the gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52mx_xUGqrw

wtch the win light on the LEFT SIDE.. and yes I was thrilled to beat the lighter car with drag radials, I had Michelin Pilot sport

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by deaguero
Man, just drop it you have no credibility here.

Your highly prized times!
Currently Ranked #2 63 Weighing in @ 4625#
#1 fastest quickest CLS63
60 ft =1.699 record in stock 63(LACR)
06/02/2007 12.64@111.8Sacramento
06/16/2007 12.73@113.15Sacramento

Your car is great but you are dragging yourself down with these foolish statements. 12.64 and 12.73 are nothing to brag about so give it a rest.
Don't forget Juice conveniently forgets to list he used race gas on his 113.15 trap w/Pilot Cups or drag rads, air filter mod & about 5,000 passes hardly stock...Bet he has a tune to boot
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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.. and yes I was thrilled to beat the lighter car with drag radials, I had Michelin Pilot sport
I'll try to scan them in today.
But honestly, you're comparing a car with DR's to a stock E55. We're not talking stock vs. stock. Who knows, on stock tires he may have been cutting 2.2's and running 12.7's, instead of 1.9's and 12.4's.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Don't forget Juice conveniently forgets to list he used race gas on his 113.15 trap w/Pilot Cups or drag rads, air filter mod & about 5,000 passes hardly stock...Bet he has a tune to boot
Really?
Race gas and Michelins aren't stock and neither is an air filter mod...IMO.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Really?
Race gas and Michelins aren't stock and neither is an air filter mod...IMO.
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Not sure race gas makes much of a difference unless it is really, really hot out. I run with PS2's. Pilot Cups are a different animal altogther though. Charcoal filter mod, good for 10 rwhp if I recall correctly. IMO, removing the filters means it isn't stock. Now - it is the very first thing I would do if I owned the car. But then I wouldn't claim to be stock.

If Juicee has a tune, I am confident that he will tell us. Anyone who goes through the trouble of running people's times through a correction calculator would not run a modded ECU without telling us all. Plus, it is hard to keep something like that hidden for long.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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The timeslip he posted in a thread here shows his 12.41@114.1, I would love to see your timeslip and put the two runs side by side. I actually beat him in the race because a near perfect light. You guys ran near identical times, cool.
sorry for jumping the gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52mx_xUGqrw

wtch the win light on the LEFT SIDE.. and yes I was thrilled to beat the lighter car with drag radials, I had Michelin Pilot sport

Juicee - EDIT - realized the car was an E63 and not an E55. So that E63 was chipped and still barely beat Juicee's heavier CLS63?

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Though by the slimmest of margins, you are actually wrong.
My best ET was a 12.402 at 113.88 mph.
So while he may have a .3 advantage in trap speed, he did not have a quicker ET. And again, though marginal, the ET on the slip posted is slower than the ET that is listed.
Also, that car had BFG Drag Radials on it.

Not stock, not faster, no dice.

S.
Drag times says chipped too and cool day, anyway great first runs
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Drag times says chipped too and cool day, anyway great first runs
I didn't even notice that...
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Originally Posted by enzom
Juicee - EDIT - realized the car was an E63 and not an E55. So that E63 was chipped and still barely beat Juicee's heavier CLS63?

Actually if you do the weight calculation,
The cars ran identical and within 1/100th of eachother on two seperate runs. This was his first pass and he left after the 2nd one.

I run race fuel to get to FACTORY RECOMMENDED OCTANE of 93
We have 91 in California no 93 available.
The filters in or out will not change my times
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Don't forget Juice conveniently forgets to list he used race gas on his 113.15 trap w/Pilot Cups or drag rads, air filter mod & about 5,000 passes hardly stock...Bet he has a tune to boot
How the **** do you know that if I did not post it. All this from a guy that has never been to a track?

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I'll try to scan them in today.
But honestly, you're comparing a car with DR's to a stock E55. We're not talking stock vs. stock. Who knows, on stock tires he may have been cutting 2.2's and running 12.7's, instead of 1.9's and 12.4's.
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Ok no worries,

I know with a degree of certainty

HE WOULD NOT GET TRACTION ON STOCK TIRES.

We dont do track prep
So yeah on stock tires 12.9 would be a miracle

All my details are posted, I consider my car STOCK , but not to decieve simply because nothing I have done has changed the OUTPUT of the STOCK 63 engine. Dynoed new @ 408 Dynoed after filter at 408, thats some mod almost as good as my fan mod, and self myst spray fan
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