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Old 08-13-2007, 02:04 AM
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hmm TTV12 vs NA V10? not much surprise. I dont think anyone claimed the M5/6 is unbeatable uptop. they have similar HP, but VASTLY different torque numbers, and curve. 600 will always get a huge jump, and then it will even out above 120 or so, accelerating about the same but not letting the M car catch up. the only way a M car would stand a chance would be starting at 80mph and already be in M mode in 4th gear.

Oh, and my car is still right side up after reading this
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you missed the part where the M's were given the jump, so your excuse is out the window now too
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EVERYONE on m5board seems to claim that the M5/6 are unbeatable uptop, so your excuse is out the window now too
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Where all M5/M6 stock ??? If yes...then there is NO SUPRPISE...

S65 beats stock M5 pretty badly...
Old 08-13-2007, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by E55 RUSS
Where all M5/M6 stock ??? If yes...then there is NO SUPRPISE...

S65 beats stock M5 pretty badly...
well not according to some of them apparently
Still can not really say anything till the footage is out.
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Originally Posted by Brav
hmm TTV12 vs NA V10? not much surprise. I dont think anyone claimed the M5/6 is unbeatable uptop. they have similar HP, but VASTLY different torque numbers, and curve. 600 will always get a huge jump, and then it will even out above 120 or so, accelerating about the same but not letting the M car catch up. the only way a M car would stand a chance would be starting at 80mph and already be in M mode in 4th gear.

Oh, and my car is still right side up after reading this
Its not a surprise to me either but Gustav must be having a heart attack Ummm, I said he gave the M cars the jump. You will clearly see it in the videos. The M cars were on a exotic cruise, they were DEFINITELY in M mode and P6billion or whatever you all call it. It was a high roll (didnt look at exact mph). I didnt say your car will be upside down, I said the m5/m6 world would be. Go over to m5board and see how they think the M cars will walk all over any benz up top. This was done to discredit that and prove the point I've been trying to make all along... Theres no magic behind the M5/6. Numbers are numbers and physics will always prevail. No badging will effect that.

I will let you guys know next time I am up that way.
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Sorry for the double post but check this out:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=104

Read what he said about the CL600

Now what Brav? Like I said, videos to come from both camps...
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wont they just say a tt is no comparison and of course itll beat us???
Old 08-13-2007, 11:26 AM
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Really nice! cant wait to see the videos! i heard the CL600 was really really fast, modded, but fast anyway! even superllegera and 07 gallardos could't keep up with M5/6 let alone the CL
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I thought CL 600's weren't turbo only the CL65. on Jiddex summery it said TT. was it a base CL600 or a CL65?
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Originally Posted by SaMaS
2003 and up CL600 is TT
This is correct. The CL600 in the video was indeed a biturbo.
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does anyone knows how much hp the CL had above the standard 500?
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Originally Posted by 7 speed SMG
does anyone knows how much hp the CL had above the standard 500?
Why do you want to compare it to the CL500? Thats comparing a N/A V8 to a V12 biturbo. Theres a huge difference!
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NO! above the 500hp!! LOL
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Originally Posted by 7 speed SMG
NO! above the 500hp!! LOL
Oh, lol, sorry! I'm not sure the exact numbers, he can give you that. I believe he put down over 535whp on the dyno. Give him some time, I'm sure he'll be checking in soon. He's busy trying to transfer the vids to the comp and then upload them.
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WOW thats 640+ crank HP! no wonder the CL was walking everyone! the fun part is that is relatively easy to get this numbers out of the TT V12...

it walks 65's?
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Originally Posted by 7 speed SMG
WOW thats 640+ crank HP! no wonder the CL was walking everyone! the fun part is that is relatively easy to get this numbers out of the TT V12...

it walks 65's?
Yea, its a BEAST!!! I have V12tt envy! Doesnt the Kleemann K4 E55 in Gustavs vids have the same power output? Now do you see why I called BS all along?

He can probably answer that better than I can. Only time I saw an encounter was with a claimed stock SL65. I was behind the 2 cars. The SL65 lost by 1.5-2 cars to high speeds.
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Hey Chris,

I was thinking about you last night (and not in a sexual way) I got a call from my brother-in-law last evening and he wanted to stop by my house to show the family car nut (that's me) what he had picked up. Now remember................. this guy likes cars but he is not what I would consider an enthusiast.

So, I'm out washing my E when I hear this thunder rolling down the road. I look up..... and what do I see?????? A 997TT rolling down the street. Black on Black and looking wicked!!!! I spent the next two hrs. driving his car and explaining what this machine is capable of. I even had to go over the 2,000 mile break-in procedure with him. haha

The car was an auto and pretty much loaded with the exception of ceramic brakes. We already have some highway and track runs with the E planned.

He asked me a question that I could not answer. Do this cars come with bluetooth or is it even offered?

Hope you are doing well

Sorry for the jack.

Rock,

The bluetooth option sux in the Pcar. My buddy rolls a Cayman S and the phone option is that you take out your SIM card and place it into the car so it will be fully integrated and it is like a 2K option from what he told me. Very fun car though to throw around in the twisties. I imagine the tt is even more fun.
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I think ahmad may have thrown a few of you off in the beginning of the thread by referring to me as "drivenagain" which is another screen name i go by on other boards. Trying to upload videos now, having trouble but i promise its coming. This was an amazing event with with some super exotic cars, modded M5's M6's Gallardo Superleggera, ferrari 575 barchetta F430, u name it it was here....500HP would only keep you "with the pack", these guys drive hard and fast in the straights and the twisties, yes I said twisties...I took some high speed turns following 6 lambos on the way home thru the poconos and I was amazed at how she handled.... For us benz guys whose cars get trashed in Gustavs videos "falling on our faces" above 100mph, we should have some footage that proves otherwise.....The races arent the 3 honk type except for one, most is just raw footage that I will try to assemble. I let EVERY car jump me, i do this on purpose so I have no excuses for myself, no one is more critical of a true race then me...i like to reel people in
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I think ahmad may have thrown a few of you off in the beginning of the thread by referring to me as "drivenagain" which is another screen name i go by on other boards.
Oops, my fault. I forgot you used a different screen name here.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Its not a surprise to me either but Gustav must be having a heart attack Ummm, I said he gave the M cars the jump. You will clearly see it in the videos. The M cars were on a exotic cruise, they were DEFINITELY in M mode and P6billion or whatever you all call it. It was a high roll (didnt look at exact mph). I didnt say your car will be upside down, I said the m5/m6 world would be. Go over to m5board and see how they think the M cars will walk all over any benz up top. This was done to discredit that and prove the point I've been trying to make all along... Theres no magic behind the M5/6. Numbers are numbers and physics will always prevail. No badging will effect that.

I will let you guys know next time I am up that way.
I hang out on that board, but I hardly jump into those posts. there are a few ppl that ruin it for everyone. it gets old. even I wasnt making excuses. You dont have to sit here and convince me. I dont get mad and butt-hurt if other cars are faster than me. As you say, its just physics. That engine as a lot more power. No one car can be all things. +1 MB. Its still an honorable mention to the M cars for hanging in w 2 less cilinders, 2 less turbos, and 20% less engine displacement.. CL should have murdered it
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
I think ahmad may have thrown a few of you off in the beginning of the thread by referring to me as "drivenagain" which is another screen name i go by on other boards. Trying to upload videos now, having trouble but i promise its coming. This was an amazing event with with some super exotic cars, modded M5's M6's Gallardo Superleggera, ferrari 575 barchetta F430, u name it it was here....500HP would only keep you "with the pack", these guys drive hard and fast in the straights and the twisties, yes I said twisties...I took some high speed turns following 6 lambos on the way home thru the poconos and I was amazed at how she handled.... For us benz guys whose cars get trashed in Gustavs videos "falling on our faces" above 100mph, we should have some footage that proves otherwise.....The races arent the 3 honk type except for one, most is just raw footage that I will try to assemble. I let EVERY car jump me, i do this on purpose so I have no excuses for myself, no one is more critical of a true race then me...i like to reel people in

Sounds like you had a blast, literally. I can't wait to see those vids!


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