M5/6 world about to be turned upside down
08-13-2007, 02:08 PM
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ok,
So every one knows I'm a BMW hater. but last time i checked a CL 600 has a V12 right???
and a M5/6 has a V10 right
Why wouldnt there be any difference of a out come? CL should crush a V10
but hey upload the vid i want to see it too!!!!!
So every one knows I'm a BMW hater. but last time i checked a CL 600 has a V12 right???
and a M5/6 has a V10 rightWhy wouldnt there be any difference of a out come?
CL should crush a V10but hey upload the vid i want to see it too!!!!!
08-13-2007, 02:20 PM
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There is also almost 800 lbs in weight difference I think but it could be less. My CL65 is almost 5k lbs. Its not all about raw HP/TQ and displacement. Gearing, tranny's, coefficient of drag, etc. come into play at these speeds. I give a lot of credit to the M machines because of this.
08-13-2007, 02:40 PM
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I hang out on that board, but I hardly jump into those posts. there are a few ppl that ruin it for everyone. it gets old. even I wasnt making excuses. You dont have to sit here and convince me. I dont get mad and butt-hurt if other cars are faster than me. As you say, its just physics. That engine as a lot more power. No one car can be all things. +1 MB. Its still an honorable mention to the M cars for hanging in w 2 less cilinders, 2 less turbos, and 20% less engine displacement.. CL should have murdered it 
but the M has 2 more gears, shifts a lot quicker than any MB auto, the cars weigh easily several hundred pounds less (500lbs +/-)
The CL has a 5.5L v12 Bi-turbo.
The M5 has a 5L V10
its more like 10% engine displacement advantage.
If you give a car the jump and you still reel him in.. that is pretty much the worst kind of kill you can have... no?
I do agree its not really a fair race, but nice of them to go along with it.
08-13-2007, 02:45 PM
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Besides, the gearing let alone the weight difference between these two cars should pretty much even out the playing field.
08-13-2007, 02:47 PM
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Net power 510 hp @ 5,000 rpmNet torque 612 lb-ft @ 1,800 - 3,500 rpmCompression ratio 9.0:1Fuel requirement Premium unleaded gasoline, 91 pump octane.Fuel tank (capacity — reserve) 23.8 gal — 2.9 galTransmission 5-speed automatic. Electronically controlled shifting. Driver-adaptive programming adjusts shift points to the driver's current driving style. Driver-selectable Comfort mode starts the vehicle moving in 2nd gear, or 2nd Reverse gear, and upshifts at lower rpm to help improve control on slippery surfaces.
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The 2003 to 2006 were rated around 492 using the old SAE horsepower standards.
The CL65's are bored out to 6L.
08-13-2007, 03:03 PM
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Dont get me wrong, the M motors are amazing but like some people pointed out, its not keeping up with a v12tt and my money says its not keeping up with a K4 E55 either. Physics wins every time.
08-13-2007, 03:30 PM
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Guys please remember that the CL600 was TUNED! IT HAD AROUND 640BHP!! thats why it walked the M5/6. if it was stock, it would have been the other way around, period. 
But thats the beauty of having a 5.5 Twin Turbo V12, you can mod it easily.
regarding Gustav's videos, there was obviously something wrong with that K4, probably not running well and i also remenber something about the tires being underinflated...
But thats the beauty of having a 5.5 Twin Turbo V12, you can mod it easily.
regarding Gustav's videos, there was obviously something wrong with that K4, probably not running well and i also remenber something about the tires being underinflated...
08-13-2007, 03:39 PM
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1st clip is me playing with jidex, no crazy racing but def high speeds, starts off by us blowing past a cop at 100+, some good shots of lambos and a cool skyline
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PUjm8C2hoDk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PUjm8C2hoDk
08-13-2007, 03:42 PM
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1st clip is me playing with jidex, no crazy racing but def high speeds, starts off by us blowing past a cop at 100+, some good shots of lambos and a cool skyline
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PUjm8C2hoDk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PUjm8C2hoDk
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I think he was directing that comment towards the M5board/Gustav crowd. You know the ones that swear that a stock M5 will beat a highly modified F-16 fighter jet from a rolling start.
08-13-2007, 04:41 PM
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08-13-2007, 04:50 PM
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08-14-2007, 10:43 AM
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I give up, they asked for proof of my claims and I finally post a video and they still arent happy. I did meet some cool M owners though and look forward to hanging out with them in the future
